I don't know... I'm just bound and determined to find out... And if it drives her away, which it won't, well, God didn't make one and quit... There's lots of others.

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the place where optimism most flourishes is the lunatic asylum...

well, i keep hearing this question. it depends on so much. the place, the country, if the girls are confortable saying it.

girls dont like to talk about it to guys kuz many of them get all exited and dont leave them alone.

when i was in school... i had stuff with about 5 straight girls from 2 grades. small school, so its not a small number concidering not all of them are good looking, and concidering that that only tells you the ones who would try it with me. not the ones who are curious about girls. it really depends. i think people should just let go of this question kuz its not gonna go anywhere. id like to know! trust me... but it depends.

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IM A GIRL that likes girls .. its simple.

so heres what i think... no fancy words just thoughts.
1. eye contact is the most important part. when you sit, and drink what ever your drinking, and give the girl you want the "i want you" look you can tell if yuu have got it by her responce to it. i like to wait till they aproach. if they dont within some minutes, i calmy ignore them for a while, then talk to them when they dont expect it. any lame opener works really, unless you really want them to remember u. i tend to just go for eye contact, and normal chat. dont like lame openers. you caqn be direct, or not. when i feel like a bastard i just get confortable and touch them. the only one who complained was great after

2. do not be romantic. im a warm person and cant just be cold. i had a hard time with this kuz girls wud get all cute with me when i didnt want relationships. make sure she knows you dont want that. iv said "i dont know if i made it clear enough, but id totaly fuck you tonight" and totaly got away with it. it works!! and if it didnt... well...NEXT who cares! reputation? iv screwed up plenty and i dont have a bad reputation

3. if your not a slut...you wount. i cant really answer. im really sweet naturaly... cant help it, so i can say that kind of thing to a girl and she wount get mad. and at the end of the night she will tell me im really sweet. its anoying sometimes. but what ever it is...works.

4. lesbian comunity? never mind. if you worry too much its worse. it always gets messy. you can always change bad reputation. i dont see why its bad to fail a couple times. doesnt make u a perfect PUA? does it matter? who cares! unless your a natural 100% you will fail. or risk times where you can fairl. i like the risk. and i like it when i fail. makes me feel happy it doesnt always work.

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IM A GIRL that likes girls .. its simple.

i think people make PUA over complicated.

i can come here and spill a bunch of fancy words.
for guys girls...what ever. if you can show confidence, and walk up to people and talk to them...thats it!

if some one was gonna pick you up what would they have to say?

personaly, this is my thing: walk in bar, get a drink "always the same one", talk to waiter/waitress. find a table where i can see as much as possible. find targets. observe them. if one looks back... i look at them and maintain the intence "i want you" look. at some point she will be trying to talk with me. other wise i will move in. since i have watched them i minimaly know what to do to get to them. thats how i get an opener... i dont plan them... i find them. get confortable and touch them. if they dont react bad... i go for an honest move and tell them id totaly take them home... if they get mad or unconfortable i show my nicer side and become really polite. gain confort by relaxing the mood and changing subject, then the eye contact. yes i play with that much... i guess it really works if you have green eyes then try touching them again, this time calmer, maybe dance, or share a drink, or what ever... till i see i can make it. then try to kiss them somehow "depends on how" then eventually get more serius if i can. there!


if im young and i can do it with people of all ages "trust me" than it cant be that hard!! i think people are too afraid to get bad reputation or fail or make mistakes. you learn with them. the faster u make them the faster u learn! take care people. im going to bed... its 4 am here

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IM A GIRL that likes girls .. its simple.

Ok Flypaper and Stacy... Ya talked me into it. I'll just leave her alone, roll with the flow and see what happens...
But I'll never give up the dream....LOL

Hi there from Germny,

I am lesbian, and I am doing this stuff, but I developed a REAL STRATEGY!

I mean, looK: I approach women ON THE STREETS in Coffeebars in shops even in the tube-and IT WORKS- I get attracted from really lovely girls- I developed an opener how you can get seen as a high value person- and ALSO AT THE SAME TIME you show that you are lesbian, but th special thing ist:
I work it as it is NORMAL and no problem that I am lesbian.
Anywa many woman think that I am bisexual...

At the beginning, it was HARD, really really hard, I had to manage many things-

I startd in Germany, I only get dates from women in clubs or over the internet( many lesbians, especially the very attractive and feminine ones meet over the internet!).

Then I went to Israel where my family lives, and-I get my first affair that I was REALLY into it- I saw her and liked her right away!
A very feminene, sexy woman, you would never think she was lesbian.
I said HI to her in a lesbianbar after she smiled at me- but on this day I approached women on the streets to get more confidence.

I approached on this day about 15 women, and after that my presence was strong.

OK this was only the START.

I had short hair were more masculine, then I changed my style- I was doing sets, when I had time and also improved my life- now I am able to get a girlfriend in Israel in about 72hours, its no problem anymore.
I see and recognize wich women are interesting for me, and go over-
If a women is straight, she says (really!):
Oh I am so sorry, I am straight.... but you are soooo cute
I say: Oh its ok, you cannot change that. no problem.

SInce I have longer hair I get much much more dates and more compliments from them: oh you are sweet, you are pretty and so on.

Two weeks ago a woman (bisexual) did kis me ONTHE STREET-after about 10 minutes, but reaqlly: it is not my style- I need more time for that.
But it was a nice reaction.

Anyway: I think of doing some infieldvideos: also for me interesting to reflect a few things.

The stuff from AFC Adam is really good, and it works also for lesbians- since I read his diary I wasgetting more good reactions- (sorry adam

Now look, I have to work- but if someone wants to get more infos: please write to me, I will answer
LOve from germany

Sylvia

Hey ya-

what do you mean, not neccessairy...
I started to read the pick up stuff because I met rarely some women for dates.
I never knew what to say, I was in a very little ´box´ with no options- now my comfortzone is much wider.

I found out: If I will move not, women will not come to me. Maby the look at me, or smile.

But whenI approach I get results- my last girlfriend I did approach in a coffeeshop (where she was working at) It was THAT special moment, when you don´t think of it, a wonderful breathtaking person stands in front of you.

Thanked god in this moment that I did practise a lot! So I knwe how to behave, and styed CALM.
ANd we had a date in the same evening! Because I managed to talk and ask her out.
I think women can FEEL how YOU feel about yourself and her.

I am sure.

SO it is very good for lesbians - especially the more masculine ones- to build the ability to meet women- lesbians and bisexuals- during a normal day.

For me, heterosexual women are not interesting. Why should I go for a women who is obesessed by men? It is a waste of time and energy.

I would love to connect with some lesbians here- I have much to tell, and to share.

I am ´alone´ n this pick up community in germany- there are no lesbians at all.

DOn´t know why- the lesbians in my area, who RECOGNIZED that I did a lot of ´sets´ ( they thought maby I was ´crazy´... they didnt understand that) are 1. talking about me and 2. in the last months- I get recognized as attractive by them.
Simply improved my game and let my hair grow long ( makes a big difference).
Put make up ( before I didn´t -and had short hair).I changed my style. I stopped smoking.
So- I hopefully get some interesting contacts here!!

Many greetings from germany

I am so happy that I'm not the only lesbian PUA! I got so excited when I found this thread!

Hi ladies *smiles*. OK OK I'll leave the game at the door...
I just thought I'd introduce myself as I'm new around here, having stumbled on this thread while googling por...I mean tips on how to improve, er, things.

Truth is I've been doing this for a while and have only recently discovered there is a name for it, so, being a lesbian naturally my mind wandered into the territory of the lesbian PUA and, well, here you are. Brilliant!

So feel free to drop me a line and we can talk *business*...

Catch ya

Rik

hey,
I also just found this thread via google, pretty cool I finally found a few people who are applying PUA-Knowledge to girl-on-girl dating.

I'm a bi femme with no experiences with girls yet. I'm living in Germany and last year I had a lover who was a PUA (I discovered some books in his bookshelf the morning after^^ and since we were both psychology students and he knew I was into the whole evolution, sexual selection, gender and sexual orientation thing, he was totally open with his resources and so on ...).
Thanks to his pointers I'm now trying to help out my little brother.

But at the same time, since I'm single myself I've been wondering, if/how girls can use this knowledge to
a) pick up girls
b) purposely become the target of the "right" men
c) pick up guys (like I have a friend who is straight and still a virgin and she said she's been thinking she might just approach (shy) guys)

I'm really interested in how the game changes or stays the same when you bend the gender roles.

I guess it makes sense that when it's a femme/butch situation, then it's mostly the same game.
But what if it's two femmes? Does the attraction building still work by one woman being more dominant and slightly more "masculine? Is there still the danger of a friend zone? Is it more or less likely?

I'm surprised by what Sylvia wrote, because I actually had started to reason, that if I want to take an assertive role, I should try to be more on the tomboyish side, which I'd definately be willing to explore.

So yeah, would be great to hear some tipps

Hey Everyone,
I was just after a few tips on how OR whether to chase this straight girl who is utterly amazing! I've only recently met her and she has a boyfriend. So is it worth it? Any help would be appreciated!
Thanks!!!

Hey ladies,
Just stumbled across this post whilst googling 'lesbian PUA's'.
Doesnt seem to be much out there for us... Im a total n00b myself, but i really want to get into this stuff and was wondering if anyone knows of anywhere us lesbians can share stories, advice etc...
Anyone else in England?
Laters

oh yeah, dont get me wrong, ive learnt tons from everyone in this forum. i just wondered if there were any variations when it came to gaming lesbians..

hell yea once u go bi you never go back!

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