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Okay, you start off by saying attraction is not a choice and then say that NLP is wrong? How does that even make sense?
It sounds like i'm contradicting myself but i'm not. It makes perfect sense if you understand it.

When we run game on a woman, we are displaying personality to her by holding and controling a conversation (doesn't matter what method). Correct? Therefore if you convey enough positive personality to your target (and obstacles), so that they have "no choice" but to be attracted to you or not at that point. Right? You're basically being "SOCIAL."

To my understanding (correct me if i'm wrong), NLP specifically targets a certain part of the brain to trigger attraction without having to run the conversation/"SOCIAL" process. You're still having a conversation, but what does SHE know about YOU? What did you demonstrate to her besides "trigger" something in her brain? It's almost like hypnotism.

Triggering your target by running game is different than triggering it with NLP. Different causes and effects, different bond, different social value, etc.

Its like using nitrous at a N/A drag race.

I'd have to quote Simpua because he said it almost perfectly.
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Don't give NLP a bad rep just because speed seduction is borderline immoral.
But who are WE to judge?

After I start and finish reading this NLP book I ordered online, it MIGHT or MIGHT NOT change my mind, about using it or not. But at this moment, NO! I'm way too natural for it.

Theres MY two cents. lol

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when it comes to suduction, all is fair right?
No. And can't you at least spell "seduction" correctly? I've noticed a trend over the years in this community... there seems to be a strong correlation between those that can't spell and those who lack morals. No joke. Strange.
LOL Chief! Im not going to lie when I first started posting on here I thought you where sort of annoying (no offense). However, after post and reading a little more on here I really like your advice/insights.

Keep on, Keeping on man!!! You got a fan here
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Okay, you start off by saying attraction is not a choice and then say that NLP is wrong? How does that even make sense?
It sounds like i'm contradicting myself but i'm not. It makes perfect sense if you understand it.

When we run game on a woman, we are displaying personality to her by holding and controling a conversation (doesn't matter what method). Correct? Therefore if you convey enough positive personality to your target (and obstacles), so that they have "no choice" but to be attracted to you or not at that point. Right? You're basically being "SOCIAL."

To my understanding (correct me if i'm wrong), NLP specifically targets a certain part of the brain to trigger attraction without having to run the conversation/"SOCIAL" process. You're still having a conversation, but what does SHE know about YOU? What did you demonstrate to her besides "trigger" something in her brain? It's almost like hypnotism.

Triggering your target by running game is different than triggering it with NLP. Different causes and effects, different bond, different social value, etc.

Its like using nitrous at a N/A drag race.

I'd have to quote Simpua because he said it almost perfectly.
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Don't give NLP a bad rep just because speed seduction is borderline immoral.
But who are WE to judge?

After I start and finish reading this NLP book I ordered online, it MIGHT or MIGHT NOT change my mind, about using it or not. But at this moment, NO! I'm way too natural for it.

Theres MY two cents. lol
NLP is mainly reframing and word choice in order to run normal game with better more positive results, hypno wierd patterns is only a small percentage... .. anyone care to correct me on this, but that is always how I have percieved the NLP scene. It may be in correct as I am by no means an expert on this area of PU.
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NLP is mainly reframing and word choice in order to run normal game with better more positive results, hypno wierd patterns is only a small percentage... .. anyone care to correct me on this, but that is always how I have percieved the NLP scene. It may be in correct as I am by no means an expert on this area of PU.
Coo, gave me a better understanding. I'm barely finished reading "the Game" and Ross Jeffries was percieved as some kind of old grumpy, shit talking, hypnosis that everyone left.

He is old, nasty, wrinkly and ugly. Big ups to him when he sniffed Carmen Electra's ass. Thats funny AFCish.

Can't wait til my NLP book comes in from Amazon.

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you are probably on your way to getting disliked as well.

Who gives a rat's ass about morals?
Unececarry and harsh man.

Ross Jeferies is generally looked down on because he uses a form of hypnotism on unvoluntary subjects to seduce them. He doesnt build comfort or create attraction naturally, but hypnotises them (against their will) into beleiveing they are attracted to him.

In some ways, it's powerful and interesting, but in others, it's amoral and unfair to the girl. She doesnt get a choice about it.
What a load of gash. It's just language ffs. :roll:

You can't make them do something they don't want to do. You've obviously not looked into it enough.

Get the Sexual Key ebook by JD fuentes, you can find it on Emule, that's a great simple book for understanding it.

I don't see why you all dislike him either, I think he's hilarious if a bit eccentric.
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