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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 6:17 pm 
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Where are you guys seeing opportunity for the OP to ask out girls? I'm seeing a lot of disinterest and creeped out Ness in the videos...not really sure how inviting them out would help.

I would agree with this.

A lot of the video was kind of cringe-worthy... It was like watching an episode of Curb Your Enthusiasm, and screaming at your television "NO LARRY, DON'T SAY THAT"... but he says it anyway.

Now, OP, please do not read that comment as a dig. I give you major kudos for actually investing the effort and putting these up (I've seen others you've done as well)... I think you have to actually try new stuff though... And make improvements on the fly.

Here's what I mean: In this video there is a 'clearly' creeped out girl... and in others there are some girls who just don't want any part of what's happening. Some of that is based on awkwardness and some is based around the things you're saying and how you're saying them. Part of getting better is making these mistakes and learning from them/correcting your behavior so you do better next time...

From one video (your past videos) to others (say, this video), I don't see you changing up your game much.

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A lot of the video was kind of cringe-worthy... It was like watching an episode of Curb Your Enthusiasm, and screaming at your television "NO LARRY, DON'T SAY THAT"... but he says it anyway.
I'm sick right now, and bored SPAM. I realized I had never watched it before and it sounded amusing based on the this description. So I'm watching the finale with Michael J Fox.

Holy crap, why did I not watch this when it was new? It's awesome.

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So the comments didn't get any better. Women began sending me 3-4 nasty messages in a row. They were really enthusiastic about cursing me out. Now my okcupid account is banned :lol:. I know how to get around IP bans so I'm not tripping, but I needed to get away from online dating anyway so it's no big deal.

Justifies everything I said. Stop doing what doesn't work. If you want I could point you in the direction of systems that do work.

Just a fair warning to every PUA on this forum. If you take a personal shot at me I'm going to report you. The mods should take action because last time I responded to someone taking a personal shot at me I got a warning but the other guy didn't. Yeah, I'm going to snitch like a little bitch. It's better than firing back and me being the only guy being reprimanded due to the fact that I'm newer here. Show respect boys. You wouldn't talk to me like that in person, or maybe you would and we could have some fun.

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So the comments didn't get any better. Women began sending me 3-4 nasty messages in a row. They were really enthusiastic about cursing me out. Now my okcupid account is banned :lol:. I know how to get around IP bans so I'm not tripping, but I needed to get away from online dating anyway so it's no big deal.

Justifies everything I said. Stop doing what doesn't work. If you want I could point you in the direction of systems that do work.

Just a fair warning to every PUA on this forum. If you take a personal shot at me I'm going to report you. The mods should take action because last time I responded to someone taking a personal shot at me I got a warning but the other guy didn't. Yeah, I'm going to snitch like a little bitch. It's better than firing back and me being the only guy being reprimanded due to the fact that I'm newer here. Show respect boys. You wouldn't talk to me like that in person, or maybe you would and we could have some fun.
I reviewed your report and Joe didn't not call you a fag. You, however, did take this thread off topic.

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This is the kind of phaggotry PU forums get. And in comes Aladdin on his flying carpet with his 2cents and no game. You have e brags about being a marine, a book you are writing, women all around the globe, and really, all you have established is being a keyboard warrior who does not go out (its fucking Jan 19th and you have not left your apartment this year #pathetic).
Honestly I want to keep this on the OP but Warped you brought it up in the thread so I'm responding here.

phaggotry is calling someone a fag. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=PhaggotNo two ways around that one. Don't show favoritism. Look at the disrespect and personal shots this guy is taking.

Please don't use this as an excuse to give me a warning about taking things off topic. That would be so messed up. Please don't close this man's thread.

007, Like I told you in your other thread. I saw your video on PU advice. I think you are using antiquated systems. You would do well to pick up on a more modern updated one, take the points that everyone has mentioned here except the one where the guy told you to keep doing the same things you're doing. Keep hitting the numbers, change the system, try to close your conversations more. You have fluff in your conversations that don't lead you towards the close. In sales we have a technique it says. Always be closing. Hope this helps.

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This is the kind of phaggotry PU forums get. And in comes Aladdin on his flying carpet with his 2cents and no game. You have e brags about being a marine, a book you are writing, women all around the globe, and really, all you have established is being a keyboard warrior who does not go out (its fucking Jan 19th and you have not left your apartment this year #pathetic).
Honestly I want to keep this on the OP but Warped you brought it up in the thread so I'm responding here.

phaggotry is calling someone a fag. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=PhaggotNo two ways around that one. Don't show favoritism. Look at the disrespect and personal shots this guy is taking.

Please don't use this as an excuse to give me a warning about taking things off topic. That would be so messed up. Please don't close this man's thread.
Acceptable: “What you just said is crap and here’s why…”
Acceptable: “Your advice is shit and here’s why…”
Acceptable: “Dude you’re completely wrong and here’s why…”
Acceptable: “You’re lying. You said over in the other thread…”
Acceptable: “Holy crap! You’re acting like a pussy! You better...”

NOT Acceptable: “You’re full of shit.”
NOT Acceptable: “You’re a fucking piece of shit.”
NOT Acceptable: “He’s a fucking liar.”
NOT Acceptable: "Fuck you!"
NOT Acceptable: “He doesn’t know what the fuck he’s talking about.”

He did not say, "Fudge, you are a fag."

If you wish to discuss this any further send me another PM. keep this thread on topic.

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60 actually has my favorite quote for doing what works
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Is what you’re doing helping you to seduce her? Or are you engaging in blatant and counter-productive faggotry when you go out?
It's sort of like, everyone lies, but not everyone is a liar. A liar usually does it more, and typically in ways that harm people.

Thus, just because someone is engaging in faggotry, does not mean they are a fag, IMO.

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Numbers are always an unavoidable factor. If you just randomly walk up to the first girl you find attractive, the odds of you succeeding are low. No matter how good you get.
If you do a bit of pre-screening like looking for receptive body language, eye contact, etc, your approach odds jump up a lot. BUT that requires numbers, because you'll have to test out a number of women before you find a receptive one.
truth is as you say low which is why I stated, PU as a system is not the most efficient nor effective.
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It's not just any one thing. You can't "max out" any one area and expect consistent success.
No. I am about natural game. As in, be the best man I possibly can be, approach out of genuine interest, and let things happen. If she is not interested, I carry on more PU. If she is interested, I carry on more PU until I am no longer available.
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You have to have your looks in order. You have to have decent social skills. You have to have the ability to arouse her. You have to be able to get her alone with you. And you have to have multiple women to find a receptive one.
Exactly which is something most companies like rsd negated these facts until most recently. People who get good at PU usually have looks meaning, they would have succeeded regardless but, you then have JMULV who got great. He was Tylers assistant. He racked up a few hundred kills in a year or less. Later we found out, he was getting rapey and is now in court battling charges. The user name is not allowed on the forums and rsd has distanced themselves away from him for obvious reasons.

For those who do not already know, Alexander, probably the best or one of the best rsd instructors has packed up camp and is going his own way following the JB shit show.
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Each of these things are critical. And without them, you will very rarely succeed.
I do not rely on looks. I suppose it helps in some cases or hinders in others. Some women will like me and some wont. I think the biggest take away from 007 is that he has more balls than most people to do PU. He has balls to approach and do sets with shit genetics when in fact, people who are posting in this thread do not even leave their apartment and yet, we are graced with their 2cents. #IDontWantToLiveOnThisPlanetAnyMore!


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So the comments didn't get any better. Women began sending me 3-4 nasty messages in a row. They were really enthusiastic about cursing me out. Now my okcupid account is banned :lol:. I know how to get around IP bans so I'm not tripping, but I needed to get away from online dating anyway so it's no big deal.

Justifies everything I said. Stop doing what doesn't work. If you want I could point you in the direction of systems that do work.

Just a fair warning to every PUA on this forum. If you take a personal shot at me I'm going to report you. The mods should take action because last time I responded to someone taking a personal shot at me I got a warning but the other guy didn't. Yeah, I'm going to snitch like a little bitch. It's better than firing back and me being the only guy being reprimanded due to the fact that I'm newer here. Show respect boys. You wouldn't talk to me like that in person, or maybe you would and we could have some fun.

I reviewed your report and Joe didn't not call you a fag. You, however, did take this thread off topic.
lol @ I am reporting you... yet the off topic spamming message teetering on trolling.

Thank you Warp! Instead of involving myself in a flame war, from this point on, I only intend to discuss with people who add value, actually leave their home and do PU. I may have had differences with Neo but, I can agree to disagree. I like PU in that, it is really open ended for styles, from approaches, and perspective. Essentially, if it got the job done, who gives a fuck about methodology or style. Nobody seems to get banned here and I would rather dedicate my time to something ore productive. Meet new wings and make new friends who want to do PU, travel, and create an awesome life for themselves as well as others.


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Where are you guys seeing opportunity for the OP to ask out girls? I'm seeing a lot of disinterest and creeped out Ness in the videos...not really sure how inviting them out would help.
My approach to PU differs from most. I take that "burn the boats" mentality so, if she is not interested, that is okay. That is cool. Regardless of her interest or disinterest, the approach is there, "burn the boats," concur or perish. Unlike in war, in PU, you can get turned down, and do more PU. She may not be interest but, she may have friends who are into it. Some girls will give their numbers and flake. The goal is to penetrate life the way David Deida speaks of in Way of The Superior Man. Have that core purpose and passion in life. I may like or love but, there must be something from my core burning that has more meaning then her or I combined. When I am dust in the wind, that drive I had while I was alive, that cause I had superseded my existence. Whether or not I achieve or not is irrelevant. I had cause so I acted. I was compelled. I felt something that resonated. I owe it to myself, to her, and the world to give my gifts. Whether she accepts it or not again is beyond the point. I am unattached to the outcome. I surrender to what is and I let go. Paradoxically, I am about my life journey. She and I intersected at some point and maybe our lives are meant to be together or maybe not. Maybe for just a bit. I feel the need to find out. Its all about what I want in a given moment; here and now!


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Where are you guys seeing opportunity for the OP to ask out girls? I'm seeing a lot of disinterest and creeped out Ness in the videos...not really sure how inviting them out would help.

I would agree with this.

A lot of the video was kind of cringe-worthy... It was like watching an episode of Curb Your Enthusiasm, and screaming at your television "NO LARRY, DON'T SAY THAT"... but he says it anyway.

Now, OP, please do not read that comment as a dig. I give you major kudos for actually investing the effort and putting these up (I've seen others you've done as well)... I think you have to actually try new stuff though... And make improvements on the fly.

Here's what I mean: In this video there is a 'clearly' creeped out girl... and in others there are some girls who just don't want any part of what's happening. Some of that is based on awkwardness and some is based around the things you're saying and how you're saying them. Part of getting better is making these mistakes and learning from them/correcting your behavior so you do better next time...

From one video (your past videos) to others (say, this video), I don't see you changing up your game much.

Just a thought.
I know where you both are coming from but, I feel like he has developed the balls to go out and even do some PU where the logisitics were next to impossible (particularly the grandma and mom cute girl PU on his channel).

the simple fact that you 007 do PU and are ballsy enough to be that kind of character makes me more than open to winging with you. Not everyone is Zyzz in looks or self amusing and game. Not everyone is a internet troll like YaboyDave who brings the laugh and pulls. Its okay.

I have used quite a few new things the past year in PU that I found bringing me success. I would love to share in exchange to others who add value. What I mean is that, I do a lot of PU preferably day game similar to what 007 did. I learned from a rsd instructor about the power of constant PU and approaching again and again. Rather than viewing PU as a singular experience of "approach" but rather, a series of approaches meaning, you do not have to end game immediately. You may pull a girl in a cafe or subway, coffee shop and or gym through repetitive interaction. It started with "hello" or whatever and it ended with pulling at some point or another. I feel like most people want this Hollywood script and magical DBZ Big Bang attack in PU that leads to pulling every girl. Its not really going to happen that way but, I have learned a few things that have really improved my ability to reach a particular group of girls and women regardless of public places or working.

I am still single guys and I continue to fine to different things. Something I take into PU and dating is that, I am simply just happy for the experience be it a date, dates, a short term fling, pull, a gf or anything life brings me. This seems to have improved my game.


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There's a difference between showing genuine interest, letting the chips fall where they may and learning how to have basic normal conversations with someone. If you're awkward and creepy to girls, nothing wrong with working on your conversation skills ,style and appearance. PU=improving your dating options and yourself in the process, not finding chicks who are interested in socially awkward guys. Accept your flaws and work on them. If you're looking for a girl who accepts you being socially awkward to marry and have a family with one day, keep going and eventually you may run into one. But let's be honest, if your looking for dick in vag action on some kinda consistent basis, you gotta bring more to the table than accepting yourself and bad conversations. Inner game isn't going to get you laid by itself. Props for approaching and I'm not bashing you, just calling it as it is. Most if not all of the girls you approached were creeped out. And yes, you can't win them all, but that's not an excuse to not improve and adjust what you're doing.

PS- damn your views shot up. The comments are bad though. Someone said your vid was uploaded to reddit or something. I don't know the laws in your state but you may want to check them out quickly as the faces aren't blurred


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Hiya there.

There is probably a moral to this story that involves not listening to your friends, lest you be forever branded as that creepy, disrespectful, misogynistic, objectifying dude who was banned from OkCupid - Sadly in this case the moral comes a little too late for you - Maybe your friend can learn a lesson from it though?

That being said, thank you for cheering up my night - I am keeping that email for my wall of happiness.

On Jan 19, 2015 at 09:05PM UTC OkCupid User Feedback <bounces@mail1.oknotify2.com> wrote:



Last night around midnight. A friend was telling me that you can just solicit 100 women with the same message and one of them would respond positively. I told him this was not true then said I would do a test. I then sent a message telling 100 girls I didn't feel like talking and to just to give me their number so I could text them later and have them come over to and perform Fellatio.



THis was a 1 time thing to prove to my friend that women in fact are not like that. Actually 2 of them laughed and one asked me how large my.....was so I was wrong. But still this is not something I promote and I probably got reported by the other women which has caused my account to be deleted. If you check my message history women tend to respond well and I have taken many numbers off okcupid and have gotten dates.



This was stupid and I should not have done it to prove a point to my friend. I apologize and I had no intention of harassing anyone. ...
She sent me this second email later after letting me sweat. Such an evil yet kind woman.
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(Oh; as an aside - In this instance I didn't ban your IP so you will be able to create a new account - For your own sake you really don't want to carry on with the one that was banned I wouldn't imagine.)

She actually did ban my IP, I tried to create another account, but it wouldn't let me before. I won't point that out to her though.

So I feel your pain 007. I stepped in your shoes for a moment as that creepy hated dude. I had my computer pussy power cut off for a second. It was annoying I will admit, but thankfully this woman (I won't give out her name or email so she doesn't get spammed) was understanding. I did get my account deleted so I'll need to make a new one, but it's fine.

Take it from her you don't want to be that creepy guy who who is known for walking around his college talking about dead cats, lying to his parents, breaking up with girls because they are fat, talking about black magic to christian women, and I could keep this list going for a while, you know the stuff you have been saying to these women.

If You're being escorted out of restaurants, and being reported to school security guards then you are the same guy I was pretending to be last night which got me reported and escorted off of okcupid temporarily.

Keep the balls change the tactics man please. You have so much potential.

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One of the things I notice is a desire to "kino", without a plan. Sort of like lamenting that only Lois went for the "K-close". It's good that you didn't, as that's not socially calibrated.

I was just watching the Daily Show and saw a clip of Secretary of State, John Kerry doing very uncalibrated touching.

http://youtu.be/hK01GxUeq00?t=1m21s

Jon Stewart does a good job highlighting what's often so weird about forced, unnatural touching. And why it's not even gender specific. This type of thing is weird. You need to pay attention to the other person's signals and go from there.

Too much is often made of "kino escalation", but too little of how to gauge progression. Test, test, escalate. If ever you hit resistance, back off. Reattempt later. Even the Secretary of State messes it up. And he's not even horny when he's doing it.

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