There is, and you seem to be fine. This is a small thing that's being blown WAY out of proportion.

Most of what Hunter and Hellhound say is correct, but it's being communicated in an extremely dogmatic and high stakes way.

This particular thing does not matter. What matters is that you make sure you don't start putting more into the relationship than she does. You make her feel good, she does stuff for you(not the other way around). It's a solid principal when followed. But it's also flexible.

You actually need some experience being a little too nice and a little too supplicating for an ideal partner. Because it teaches you the exact, complex boundaries(that also depend on the girl). If you follow the principal too closely without experience, you're just going to come off as manipulative, and build resentment.

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RSDTyler

Totally agree Ver!

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You can fail all your life but still achieve more than those who did not try.

There's no need to shout and for those negative labels. We are just discussing and seeing things from all angles.

Forum members can cook all the breakfast they want for their women after sex. But if they encounter problems later on like several men here did (who have been in many and longer relationships than you did), then they can try other ways as Hunter_Foxe and I have been discussing.

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Approach. Open. Escalate. Isolate

Here are my two essential rules on texting that will save you tons of time and money:

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I didn't say "never take your girl out on a dinner date". I said you should wait until AFTER you've had sex with her before you take her out; if you want her to treat you well and respect you, that is. If you want to let her wear the trousers in the relationship and be a little bitch, then sure, keep spoiling a girl who has done nothing to earn your affection, aside from being hot. Some (masculine) women like it when you assume the feminine role, so I guess it depends what kind of girls you are attracted to. Personally I like submissive feminine women who are happiest when they are pleasing me. Dominant women repulse me, I don't date them.

You keep a woman interested by being challenging, not by spoiling her for no reason. If you only reward good behaviour, punish the bad and if your girl can tell that other women really want you, she will work hard to keep you. If the relationship is "plain sailing" with no arguments and constant affection / dinner dates / gifts or holidays from you, she will take you for granted, use you, get bored and cheat.

As Hellhound said, keep spoiling your girls and come back in 5-10 years and let us know how that works out. I used to spoil my girlfriends and my wife. Don't act like we've never been in your position. I've emptied my bank account on girls in the past and still got cheated on. I learned it the hard way.

Lol i know what you guys are saying and i totally get it and sorry to hear you got burned bad fox.

I never treat a girl until shes let me fuck her its a number one rule. I mean months down the line etc. I think we have crossed wires totally! I treat a girl months down the line when shes doing well but you's are right to constantly be a challenge and make her work for the finer things. BUT when she does good and has been doing everything right she does deserve to be treated.

Dont think ive ever emptied my bank account over a girl fuck that. I dont think ill ever have a joint account either !

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