So I basically told him that he was socially retarded if he had complained of that clicks for 10 years in the DC area but wasn't willing to meet new people; every new person you meet isn't going to be perfect, many will have faults, traits that you don't care for, but guess what? They have friends! And that's how you expand your social network said these little fucking boo-boos complaining about clicks, aren't wewilling to do a damn thing to fix it, they just complain about a guy looking for girls. Sorry bud, but standing around and dancing with your dude friends without talking to any girls nearby; that's not going to ditch you many friends; just saying. And I pretty much said that back to him. I guess that's how it went.

So this is the a pitta me of finding other single wings who can hang out and want to hit the bars with you! This is what you get when you try.

Am I delusional here, or is shit really fucking stacked against you if you don't already know two dozen people in an area, I mean for fuck sake.

Going Out Alone - Step by Step Are Rules Desperately Needed

Hey guys,

So jeez, I took A couple months off to focus on career stuff, and holy shit, I had no clue how much that would set me back! I had no idea how rusty someone could get, or maybe it's just me, with just two months out of the field.

But then again, going out alone has always proven to be a tough sell for me, even though I try my damnedest to do it. Those who have followed my posts may have seen that I have heard anecdotes from lots of girls who say that they would instantly view a guy by himself at a night time venue as a loser, a creep, or someone who is just out there for one thing.

Guys, I know there are people on this forum who are really good at going out alone, in fact, I know a couple who only go out alone, and I think it's about time we start a thread or something about how to go about it step-by-step when you get to a nighttime venue alone.

Tonight I went out on the night of November 1, which this year of course was Halloween back up, i.e. girls were dressed in their sexy little outfits, but not all of them, and every girl was with a guy.

I get to the first venue, I walk around, I order a drink, and stay at the bar for a second while checking my phone, nobody is around, just dudes on both sides, I look behind me, it's three hot girls each with a dude, so I walk elsewhere in the bar I pass a few hot girls and they are in groups of five and six, outnumbering the girls. I don't initiate contact.

I come over to the shuffleboard's which is a great social thing I thought, and ask these guys, hey man any chance I can get in on this game when you guys are done, and this one guy says to me "sorry dude, we're here playing with people that we came here with"

I go back to the front of the bar where I started my tab, and some girl comes up in reaches under the bar to where her coat and purse were hanging, and comments on how she so surprised that nobody messed with her stuff. I introduced myself to her, she says her name it's nice to meet you. I said "well usually people shake hands, that's the polite thing to do, right?" She said "what?" "I'm supposed to show you my hands, what?"

I told her, no, I mean, when you meet someone new, you usually tell them your name and then you shake hands, she responded "umm, no that's okay, no thanks."

I talked to a few girls who still had on costumes from wherever, it was all very distant discussion, couldn't break the seal, almost like an airport conversation it didn't go anywhere beyond that quick "so what are you going as? Etc. etc."

I close out my tab and get the fuck out of there.

I go to another spot a little further down town where I know staff thinking that would help me, LOL. Yes, some girls where in costume, some girls weren't, everyone of them was spoken for, and the random extra girl with a group every time I try to approach or a girl with a boyfriend would come immediately up to immediately and say "hi, how are you doing?!!!"

So I sat, had a few beers, checked my cell phone, tried to text guys who said they would be out in the area but never wrote back, ever, leaving me out high and dry, and smoking a hookah, and looking around with loud dance music, hot girls although with guys, and that was all there was to it.

Last call hits, time to go home.

Guys, there has got to be some sort of a step-by-step process that you guys follow if you are successful with going out alone, what do you do? What is the first thing you do when you go into a venue? Let's say you go into a venue and it's all couples? What do you say? I used to use openers. But now it seems like they are all taken or they've been heard.

Or they're not really hitting. Mainly, I'm thinking it's just the girls, and or the culture that I need to adapt to but then again, you see these guys, who again, say "I go out alone all the time and that's the only way I roll"

I've got to wonder what towns these guys are in. I'm in DC and the DC suburbs right across the river, meaning Northern Virginia.

Is there any way anybody could provide a step-by-step of what you do as soon as you come in the door, would you walk about, who do you go to, who would you look for, what types of girls do you choose to escalate with, which ones do you cut loose, which cool dudes do you approach to shoot the shit with, and how do you move on from there?

This "going out alone" subject has been beaten to death so many times that it's even spawned an article on sites like city data.com, DC area, where guys ask if it's okay to go out "cool or fool?" (you can search for it)

It just seems to me, this successful going out alone thing is just a solid miss; and that basically you have to go into these venues with a hot girl already, and then, hell, the night is spoken for, am I wrong?

I would greatly appreciate any feed back on this as I think this is probably the most stringent issue that we face, whether it be day game, night venues, etc., although the being out alone thing kind of does transcend a lot of times of day and venues.

We would all appreciate any sort of even ad hoc or loosely strung together step-by-step procedure for going out alone, what to look for and how to go about it.

Desperately yours,

Rob