You make some reasonable points.

What you said WOULD hold true but there are a few things to keep in mind. There might not be Indians in Europe but there are LOADS of Arabs there and there are a lot of South Asians in England. Now I just get bothered by the fact that there are somehow millions of Arabs in France but a White woman - Arabic man couple there is almost unheard of.

On the other hand apparently every girl in Europe loves Black men when there are more Arabic/Middle Eastern men there. You bring up the minorities point but then say how come so many Black guys are telling stories about how women in Europe are going crazy for them and so many other sources seem to agree.

Let this sit in for a second, countries like France, Italy, Norway, and Sweden have tons of Arabs but it is almost unheard of to see them hooking up with and screwing local women there. You don't think that there is A LOT of racism involved in that regard? Especially with France because I have known some extremely xenophobic/racist French people in real life.

Now people like you and me, we have lived in the US our whole lives or most of our lives. We are so used to people treating us as Americans (at least I am mostly), if we look different and act like westerners then we are exotic, etc.

Now I am young (haven't turn 21 yet) so maybe my life experience is very very limited. Yet I have had no source of evidence or anything tell me that a man with brown skin can go into Europe and if he is confident/has game then he can score with women there.

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Just to be clear, it doesn't have to be Indian men having success in say Sweden or Norway or France. It can be other men like Arabic men or Middle Eastern men, heck even Asian men. To somehow prove to me that you don't need to be Black or White in order to be a casanova in those places.

I know people like Jesse (simple pickup) who have absolutely KILLED IT in the US. Yet, I don't know of any men that are asian or brown that have managed to score in countries like france, italy, spain, or scandinavian countries.

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Mate ok, I can see that it's not possible to convince you on this. I am living in Europe and I am white and I have lot's of brown friends and I tell you this. It comes down to the girls taste. Some girls like brown guys some don't. By you sitting in front of your computer making posts about bullshit theories you won't get any european women in your life. EVER.

Now you cancelling your trip to Sweden because of your made up excuse that you won't get laid. Mate are you fucking stupid? Sweden is a beautiful country, who gives a shit if you don't get laid. Going abroad your number one goal shouldn't be to get laid. You won't get laid with this mentality anyway.

Also what is this fetish with European girls. Do you think their shit smells like perfume ? No it doesn't. If you say you have success with US girls, then ok stay there and game them. But stop whining like a bitch about stuff you "heard" from others. Please tell me one instance (only one) when a girl told you to fuck off because you are brown.

If you want proof I personally know indian guys that fuck british girls left and right. Also pakistani guys. My salsa teacher is latin american, he fucked everyone in the class. That's what you wanted hear ?

YOU'VE NEVER EVEN BEEN TO EUROPE!

How the fuck can you say what is or isn't heard of if you've never even been there? When you were in Europe who told you this bullshit? Oh that's right you weren't, you are judging off the internet... How the fuck can you do that? According to the internet... how many facts are there that aren't true?

Europeans don't flaunt their sex lives as much as Americans, stop acting like we are the same I can't stand the American outlook on sex.... It's horrible.

I can't even understand how you can say this shit when you have never actually been there. How can you judge a place when you have zero experience? That would be like me saying man I know what it's like to be black, it's rough.... no, I have no clue I'm not black.

You've met some racist French people so they must all be racist right? So what you've met some racist white folk not all of them are. You are including all these people together and it doesn't make any sense. You are making judgments based off of ignorance which is the cornerstone of prejudice and racism.

Your prejudice should not be allowed on this forum. I feel you are being unfair to an entire continent and am getting to the point where I think you should be banned for spreading ignorance in the form of prejudice around the forum.

Peace and Love,

Vic

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Dear Para-moan,

No amount of evidence will help you overcome your crippling inferiority complex, but hey, let's give it a go. You singled out France as being particularly "anti-brown". Let me set you straight on this:

Taken from Wikipedia article about Interracial Marriage:
Yours sincerely

Hunter Foxe

The women I have met from there were cute and beautiful, looks wise. I don't go by stereotypes, I go by real life experience which has made me prefer some women over others.

Also, at this point in my life I don't care about looking at buildings and whatever, it gives me little joy. As sad as it may sound, getting laid is really high on my list when I travel to a place because other than say Brazil or maybe Italy, I see no purpose in going to other countries. Also add Switzerland to that list. Why would I go to those places? Because I have a purpose to go there other than getting laid. I know in Brazil I won't be rejected (for race ALONE) because there are tons of women with the same features as me there who will be open to getting with me.

When it came to Sweden, my friends were going to hang out with people there, only thing in my mind was to score with some cute looking blonde but then I read they hate middle eastern looking men due to some "rape waves".

Wait for my next post when I admit what I discovered my issue is.

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Hunter_Foxe: Thank you for your post, it was kind of, well, enlightening I guess. Kind of old, would LOVE to see something that is more modern day but brother you tried and props for that.

I think I can break my issue down.

See, I like it here in the US but I also have that feeling for the unfamiliar sometimes. As a kid I lived in Europe but then again, I was a kid, ignorant of this racism crap.

Not long ago I went to some big conference and saw some pretty looking European girls but most stuck to themselves. Then I read online (had some long term plans to travel there) that these women either date their own men (White) or experiment with Black men out of curiosity (ONS). Again, I could care less about some pleasant experience where you see a bunch of buildings, here I see a group of women that I just like based on experience (how they look) and then I hear they hate men of X race (from the roosh v forum from guys who claim to live in Europe) due to racial stereotypes.

Now I know some religions in the world don't treat women up to Western standard but I think it is wrong to judge a guy with one ethnic appearance and associate him with a certain religion.

Like if I approach an attractive girl who happens to be say Swedish and she rejects me for having poor game or whatever, I am cool with that, my fault. Yet, if I approach her and no matter HOW I approach her she rejects me based on putting me into some stereotype box, that is what made me post this thread in the first place.

So I will be honest, throughout this thread I have sounded like some weak entitled brat, call me out on it and bash me for it. It was really my wrongdoing and I am SORRY for those offended.

Yet I live in a country like the US where even Mexican guys (not OTHER latinos but mexicans, who are supposed to be looked as lowly in American society from the many people I have talked to) score with tons of hot women.

I live in a country like the US where I tell people I am an American and they consider me one without any question. Where I FEEL American because I have adopted so many values of the US and have tons of friends who are American (mostly White and Black).

In a way, I want to travel to other countries and maybe try daygame there but I am so fucking scared because of all the nasty newspaper articles that are out about how muslims are treated in europe and blog posts about how only Black and White men have a lot of success with women there.

It sends me into some sort of an outrage where I am not myself on a forum because I ask myself "how can women in this country sleep with a man for skin color alone without giving me a chance based on how he games them like here in America".

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I decided to reflect and spend some time with this and I have decided to reach a conclusion here.

You know, I am not even old enough to drink here in the US, I traveled when I was a little boy but for the past lets say 9 or so years I have been in the US and I am grateful for being here.

Today, I was visiting a university that is near my house because I wanted to study and they have a great library. I go to a larger university (over 20,000 undergraduates) where I recently transferred in. The life I have there is great because it has brought me so many friends and loving people. I might have hit somewhat of a low in PUA because of being in a whole new place and adjusting to a new kind of life which requires more responsibility on my part but I am sure I will adjust and have the same success I had not too long ago.

Right now, I am young and trying to enjoy some of the most enjoyable years of my life. It is that time when you are discovering yourself and enjoying things you may not enjoy as you get older.

All of you have been extremely helpful, moving, and in a way very very encouraging. I am uncertain about Europe but lets just say all that I have heard and read about it in terms of me being Brown and trying to pick up girls has come up as extremely discouraging.

You know, I can, well, fantasize about how life will be like years from now when I travel to some European country and do some approaches but that would be so pointless. The fun and joy in life is to be lived in the now. Who knows, maybe a few years down the road some social changes or whatever happen there to where a decent looking Brown dude with game can score quality women in Sweden or Spain but I won't hold my breath for that. I have been trying to do some research on it and look it up, not much results about it.

I am going to live my life in the now, enjoy the moments it brings, and I guess I would have disliked Sweden anyways (cold weather, expensive, etc.). Maybe this whole idea of going to Europe is just not for me. America has PLENTY of good looking women and many who are open to getting with a guy with my appearance.

Guys, I have made the most of my time here, you have all given me more than enough advice PUA related. It is about time I headed out and decided to make my own experiences to write about. I have gotten so much out of this forum that I feel I have overstayed my welcome here.

Thanks to all, it was an enjoyable experience here.

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