It's true if you beleive it. Its about being affectionate. Its not about lying. Its about love.

LOL No perfection isn't in the eye of the beholder...

Oh k so I think 2 + 2 is 5 so I see that as perfect.... Does that make it perfect? NOPE. Unless of course your are in the book 1984.

Your point is asinine dude. Your perception is faulty... your whole concept shows a lack of experience and skills with women... shit with being human.

Humility is about being humble and admitting you are human not saying you are perfect... Humility is about being a person not about thinking there is nothing wrong with you. Does this mean I don't believe a woman you date or marry shouldn't love you regardless of your imperfections? Absolutely not she absolutely should or you should move on. You tell me I'm wrong yet you have no right point? How am I wrong when I'm the only one that is presented you with an answer and how many other people have agreed?

That's right yet I'm wrong dude.... It's ok to accept fault we all have to. That is how you get better that is how you get good with women by being vulnerable... of course unless you want to pay hookers. Which at this rate I really think this should be your best option to consistently get laid, it isn't because you are good with women or are charming... your statements show that.

You telling women they are perfect is why you are here... You should never ever tell a woman that short of you being married or in a LTR with her... even then I find that to be a ridiculous compliment.

I am one of those guys who doesn't dwell on problems but seeks solutions. Just because you see an area where you can improve doesn't mean you can't love yourself or like yourself... See this is our biggest difference, you think if you see room for improvement you can't high self-esteem. I feel that self-esteem is loving yourself regardless of your imperfections.... Improving yourself isn't about hating on yourself it's actually about loving yourself.

I'm a joker dude... I said that shit because I thought it was funny... You find it disrespectful yet how would you feel if you offered an apology and it went unaccepted? I have this funny concept... you don't earn respect with me... you earn disrespect with me. If you feel that I'm disrespecting you then you are clueless. I have no reason to disrespect you. I offer ways to illustrate my point. Sometimes if you miss my tone you see it as horrible.

You are lying about not caring what others think otherwise this thread would have never been started... Your need to find a way to not be rejected proves this otherwise rejection would just be a fuck it. Don't sit here and lie to all of us and certainly don't lie to yourself.

Yes you are hurting someone. You are hurting yourself over and over and over again. Don't you get it?

Please go see a therapist.... there are things they can help you with. I am sincerely hoping you get some help Iwanteasylove.

Peace and Love,

Vic

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Everything you write is wrong, all wrong. All wrong.

My screen name is invictus (unconquerable)

Why do you keep writing me? Because you're arrogant and because you get satisfaction out of telling people what to do. I am perfect and I treat others as if they are perfect. I decide that not you. I decide that. I decide that and you have no power to change that. You're helpless If you ever read the poem invictus, its about liberty and power of the mind. The author of the poem wrote it on a hospital bed with polio, near death, and he said I am the master of my fate. Call it crazy, call it sick, call it delusional but that's how i'ma think because I love that shit!

Now, most pyschological disorders are simply insecurities, people thinking something is wrong with them when there is not. Its just people not liking themselves. And you are spreading the this bullshit. Nothing you say is true, you just point out what you don't like like a typical asshole. Most people would be happier with simply to see themselves in a positive light. Thats what it means to love yourself to look at your self positively. Something is not an imperfection if you like it.

You're the kind of person to meet someone that is completely satisfied with their life and happy, and to make them miserable by pointing all the things you don't like and telling them something is wrong with you. Maybe you will see your insanity, but I wish you'd leave me the hell alone! Cuz you go to hell with that bullshit, because thats where that shit comes from....hell!

I am so offended I can't even see. To tell me I need pyschological help? To tell me I need pyschological help? To tell me I need to change? Really? Really? To tell me how to lead my life? Really??? Really????

Because you don't see yourself as perfect you take pleasure in pointing out the faults of others. It makes you feel good. YOu get your value from looking down on other people. YOu take satisfaction from that.

Focusing on your flaws make you insecure. Focusing on your vulnerabilities makes you feel weak. Love is to see someone as perfect although they have imperfections. Its like being in love with a girl you like her so much that nothing else matter. She's perfect the way she is! You like everything about her. Her farts smell like roses, you want to kiss her with morning breath, you don't care if she bitches. Seeing someone as perfect that's what it means to love someone.

Perfection is in the eye of the beholder. Is your meal perfect? your choice. Is your outfit perfect? your choice. Is your girlfriend perfect? Your choice. You need to look up what a value judgment is. You sound so insecure because you sound like you can't even think for yourself. You sound like you need someone else to tell you whats right and wrong.

Dude, you are a clown. No one is perfect. No ones farts smell like roses. No girl can bitch without annoying her man. You have a completely unrealistic view of human relationships.

"to love someone is to see them as perfect, even though they have imperfections." this statement makes no sense, because if someone has imperfections, they are not perfect. Everyone recognizes that no one is perfect. Kate Upton is not perfect, her farts probably smell, and she probably has some annoying habits. Most people accept this as a fact of human nature, but you for some reason refuse to.

Poetic has been incredibly patient and helpful to you and you insist on acting like a clown. Don't assume you know everything, learn from those who have gone before you.

I am not a clown. Its called infatuation and that is a realistic part of human relationships. When you are infatuated with someone....maybe you have heard this before...you worship the ground they walk on.

Its not a fact. Its an opinion. How you feel about something is an opinion.

Poetic is working on my last nerve and he needs to be a man and keep his word and leave me alone like he said he would. He thinks he knows everything, not I. YOu think you know more than me.

Honestly, I dont even uderstand why people keep disagreeing with me. What is wrong with you guys?

Yeah you can think about something anyway you want to...

Infatuation is not love, bro. You should know this. Ive had girls be infatuated with me, want to have babies with me, spend the rest of their life with me, call me perfect...but this is just that initial stage where the chemicals in your brain are raging so hard for someone you feel like they are perfect. But they arent, and no one is.

Infatuation is being in love, but infatuation is not loving someone; its just a feeling. Loving someone is the actions and sacrifices. Infatuation captures the feeling of affection you have. Its like how a mother feels about her new baby.

Also the infatuation does not come from the chemicals. THe infatuation comes from how you think. You think of the person as perfect and it makes you feel exhilirating. Its not the other way around.

Once again its your choice to feel that someone is perfect or not.

Irony - I'm like the happiest person you'll ever meet. Most smiliest.... jokingest... fun guy... FUCKING HILARIOUS. Dude I have fun at work all day and have a stressful fucking job because I choose how I am going to feel NO ONE ELSE controls my frame.

As it was put to me on fuck... I don't know like 1000 occasions (literally) laughs more than ANY OTHER PERSON I KNOW.

I literally have been complimented over a dozen times about how when someone is having a bad day they come to my work to see me so they can feel better.

I'm not a negative person... In fact I am a very positive person.. I have coached a few people recently to let them know that it is good to have a clear sight of their goal and be happy with what you have accomplished but to never be deterred from what you should and can accomplish.

You don't even know me dog.... LOL

Go talk to some people I've coached on confidence dude... Your attitude is not something they would have. They are happier then they ever have been, love themselves more than they ever have, and are working on their mentality, on themselves, and working towards their dreams.. More Driven than they ever have been. They said they have never been this positive and had this much come to them.

You got me so wrong it's ridiculous. I am that guy that says well maybe he just had this happen to him... no worries he can yell at me... it won't change how I feel.. perhaps after he gets it off of his chest he'll feel better. THAT IS ME.

I literally have been here to help you even at your disdain of me... Why do you think like 5 other posters have told you to listen to the same message I've brought you?

I have the energy, that aura, that presence that raises a room and the morale of an entire area. You know that guy that pushes up the energy of the whole room.. But nope I must be that guy that pulls down the whole area. Come on dude. Get real you want to see me in that manner because you think that is how I am with everyone... the reality is that sometimes it's hard to be woke up.. you can deny it but you have to eventually admit it or you'll go insane.

I raise people up but not to their own demise... I won't raise you up if it's going to hurt you and trust me making you feel good when you aren't a part of reality won't help you. That's like rewarding a drug addict with drugs.... Fucking horrible idea just fucks them up more.

I really think you do need a therapist... It's true.. it's not like I'm making this shit up for no reason. You are very far from reality bro... You can believe whatever you want but reality is still going to be here either way. It's fine dude I seen a therapist for a minute to dude. It doesn't mean your crazy... just need some help working some shit out up top. Basically they can help guide you, it helped me a ton (no joke).

Peace and Love,

Vic

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I define how I feel about reality. That is the spirit of the poem invictus. My mind is unconquerable. Furthermore, we are not on this earth to be broken by reality we are here to create new realities. To dream and then to make it into reality. That is what life is about.

If you are happy live your life your way. 5 posters disagree with me because they do not think like me and i do not need their affirmation to think the way i do. I decide what is right and wrong.

You decide what is right and wrong like the Ubermensch, this is alll Nietzchean philosophy. Also, the whole point of the movie Fight Club was the protagonist's search for meaning, but ultimately in the end he found out he had to destroy all his idols and define meaning himself otherwise he'd always have someone else standard that he could not live up to. Society says he should be rich, fuck like Tyler, date hot girls, don't give a fuck like Tyler, etc....but he had to abandon all of that and determine what he thinks is right and wrong himself in order to be happy . He starts the movie off depressed, but ends the movie content because he determines what he values at the end not society; I'm not pulling this stuff out of my ass homie. I feel like you look to logic, friends, you're therapist, science instead of yourself to determine what you think. I think you need to free your mind. For the next week I want you to refer to yourself as bruce lee and introduce yourself as Bruce lee to everyone you meet.

LOL- Did you just use a guy who had a split personality disorder on TV to explain your point?

Yeah he is the guy you want to learn to a derive a reality from someone who didn't live in it.

While it's true your perception becomes your reality true reality exists regardless. For instance visualization techniques have proven to fail you when it comes to making things happen... Action on the other hand has proven to make things happen. Visualization can help but it does not create your current reality.

I don't look to anyone for my logic... I am a very philosophical guy. You see you keep trying to use ideals to say I'm wrong dude... in fact you really are just looking for any old way to find that I am wrong so that you can disqualify the truth, problem is the truth is here dude. My personal life philosophy exists based off of reading thousands upon thousands of pages and not only that but also a very large sum of experiences... I've learned more along the way than I can believe.

However we are not talking about my personal life philosophy, we are talking about women.... how to fuck them. That is what this forum is about... seduction not hoping that you can decide so that you hold some bull shit interaction's power balance that truly exists only in your mind. By the way you've proven my point now with your words.... Pretty good teacher ain't I? You defined that your reality was there was a power and a balance now you know it was a reality YOU created. Thank you for proving my point you defined this reality but this reality is not necessarily true. The truth is there is only this power balance in your mind and not elsewhere.

You writing down that you are some fucking name you made up on a forum doesn't make it true, I'm pretty sure old ass Mike Tyson would still knock your ass out with 2 punches(one just measuring next KOin you). You thinking Bruce Lee is alive doesn't make him alive. You thinking that 2+2=5 doesn't make it true.

I'm not a psychopath here to lie to myself or anyone else... I am the Man... Don't you get it. Why the fuck would I listen to someone giving advice who doesn't even have a clue? Would you? You came here to learn... Act like it. I have no need to say I'm bruce lee.... Speaking of which what is your obsession with him. Do you want to go back in time and fuck him or something?

Peace and Love,

Vic

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Invictus you asked a question and Polycantrememberhowtospellhisbloodyname actually took the time to make a pretty good answer. It's a good question and you got a decent answer but the way you responded to it came across to me at least pretty unappreciative, it's not really the best way to go about getting what you want.

Great quote I got at a work training today


“If you focus on results, you will never change. If you focus on change, you will get results.”

― Jack Dixon


I thought it applied a lot to this argument... You are so results orientated that you haven't realized that you have to change to get results.... Otherwise you'd already have results.

Peace and Love,

Vic

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He had a split personality becuase he was trying to be like others and not like himself. One's he was satisfied with his self he was healty.

You're not a good thinker...You have not proved your point you are just over generalizing

How you think changes how you feel about reality. This gives you mental empowerment. However, this does not actually give you tangible power, it just gives you the energy to work towards.. To be the decider you have to make the girl feel a certain way, now do you know how? I could say I am the greatest casanoa of all time, that doesnt make it true but in a sense it does. Its true for me if I believe it and that gives me the energy to make it into a reality, however I do not actually have to power to pull any woman. See the duality. See that man and think for man. Its a duality. Its kind of like I am tiger woods http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAnlcW_ILyw You remember that commercial. I am tiger woods. Now I can't play like him, but I feel like him I got power to make it a reality within. See duality. Think. Now call yourself Bruce Lee.

Its funny that you bring up Mike Tyson. If you look anything about Tyson you will know he was thinking he would be world champ since he was 12....it took 8 years to make it a reality