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Because of the social science of courtship, because based on the venue, women have a conscious "bitch shield" and because in certain situations, all other men that have approached her have been direct. Being indirect allow you much more wiggle room to apply game. Sure you can cut to the chase being direct, but that's just it, if she does not have an instant attraction to you, or is simply sick of men approaching stating their interest based on looks alone. There is a good chance she will not even give you a chance to seduce her mind.
Which is why I said earlier that direct game works best when the girl is showing interest in you before you even approach. As other wise your bound to fail or at least have a high chance of failing, but then again most guys in clubs that go direct seem to say something along the lines "hey sexy", can't see that going very far really. There is no doubt indirect game gives you more wiggle room and makes it easier to defeat the bitch shield. Saying most of our communication is body language, which is why I use "indirect" body language or other words non sexual with a direct opener.
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It's not about the rejection factor, it's about allowing yourself the opportunity work your game, to observe her reactions, to dictate the seduction. Most women have a set response to men approaching direct, its just reflex, some like to brush guys off right away in hopes they will keep persisting, some just do it for fun, most do it out of instinct. Either way, if you as a skilled observer/seducer an not allowed the time to interpret the woman's mannerisms, how are you suppose to seduce her out of her panties?
But giving your self the the opportunity to work your game is about the rejection factor because the more you are able to push that to aside the better your chances no? Indirect serves that goal the best. As far as going direct and seducing the girl, there is a reason I open direct but follow up with an indirect line with "indirect" body language. Most girls that get open direct are use to guys going direct all the way thru. I open direct then go indirect on the conversation. I guess you can say what I do is a hybrid, tho I find it works well for me.
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When one approaches in a direct manner, he is simply giving all the power to the woman and giving her every opportunity to escape. Most women would much rather not bother. Especially desirable ones. Approaching direct is limiting yourself.
You only give women power if you let them have it or give it to them. Coming in with a dominate frame up front and taking any control they may had kills that even with a direct opener that is if you do it right. I been working on this for like the past year and have found it to work quite well. As mention in another thread here there are loads of girls that have rape like fantasies and such are bound to be submissive. I use that to my advantage as like you said once I get the green light on the sexual interest that side comes out strong.
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I much prefer to approach indirect, build some rapport, look for the signs, then become ULTRA DIRECT. (women will tell you if they are interested within a few minutes of social interactions, especially if they do not have a conscious guard up)
Minutes? More like 30 or less seconds does a girl decides if she wants to sleep with you. I think someone who has been doing game for a while would know that. Not saying one can't change their mind as that is very possible to do.
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I don't just do this for her interest, I do it for myself, I like to gauge a woman as well, some chicks are hot as hell but a complete turn off once their personality comes out. I like to fuck their mind. Indirect approach allows me the opportunity to screen the women I WANT TO SEDUCE. It's not about them, it's about me. I want and demand to have the right to pick and choose.
Totally agree with your thinking and totally agree that indirect allows you to learn more about the girl in person. Saying that you can get a good idea of the girl just from watching her for a couple of minutes as well, granted it won't give you the low down on her but enough to give you a general idea about her tho. I tend to this as I view girls like stocks [as in stocks in the stock market], are they worth my time and energy and if so how much?
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If you want to see my point or even hear it from the horses mouth. Try a social experiment. The next few attractive women you see. Go up to them and ask them. What type of approach from a man would they prefer. ( I have done this often)
Give them a typical direct approach and a typical indirect approach ( not opinion or any of that mystery crap)
I am certain most will prefer the indirect. I am basing this on years of practicing and inquiring myself.
I actually been meaning to do this experiment but never gotten around to it, ya I am a lazy ass. Saying that when it comes to girls and them being seduce by guys I don't take much stalk in what they say more because they say one thing and the opposite happens. I have heard girls say they want a guy to have a normal conversation which I have no doubt is true, but beyond that I say anything goes. Its quite amazing what the sort of crap you can say to a girl and get away with let alone close her.
FYI I agree very much with what the video said. I think what is going on is I take the "opposite" side of doing things if you will.
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