Whats wrong with doing a false time constrain i started doing it and it helped me alot along with body rocking and opening over the shoulder, it makes you less threatening to the girl she doesn't have to blow you out immediately cuz she knows you ain't gnna be that long and you show higher value. An example of this is, ' I've got to go in a sec but i saw you and thought you looked adorable and had to say hi' (body rock out, like your about to walk off, when she replies its a hook / ioi depending on what she says, if negative just say 'it was nice meeting you, bye bye' f positive transition into something else) And one last thing try locking in if you can it isn't always possible but if you can it will help. I know some people have different views on day game but try this out what have you got to lose if i doesn't work go back to what you were doing before, if it does then great!!! And give it a fair try at least 5-10 sets to get used to it and to make it natural. Thats all.

Yes, it works and if you say some thing DHV and she "become" into you. However, the truth is she already likes you or not even before you do these things. I admit body language is very important, but do not attribute failure to all of what you do.

I am doing 60 stuff now. No FTC, No indirect opener, No DHV, No neg. I've been done these for a lot of time, it is great to see women's good reaction. However, it does not help me further and even harm my chance with women.

It is really hard for me to pull the trigger just like people in the PUA shows. Part of the reason is I cannot stand the reality anymore that once I pull the trigger, they reject me with the contrast that they are so happy when I did these stuff.


So after doing these with beautiful girls who show IOI to me before I did MM. I just cannot pull the trigger and I am totally afraid that if I show IOI, then they will realize and leave. Oh, this theory messed me up.


If she likes me, she will definitely accept my IOI. No need to worry that much.

I think for some people it works for others it don't it depends on the person but i always say u never know what way is best for you until you have tried them all

GREAT post... I love indirect openers and thats where i exell, but i want to get better at direct openers, and this right here is golden.. Well done...

I'll have you know i copied and pasted this guide and saved into into my ' PUA Notebook' in my computer to refer to

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[quote="DDRQ"]Could you guys go into more detail with the romantic and emotional connection? As in I kinda know what you mean by it and I understand it... But I have no idea whatsoever how to really implement it.

I do okay with the sexual one. But basically that doesn't get them to invest emotion into the interaction... So not anything long term really.

I'm usually pretty cold when I game. And I change the subject when it comes to me having to open up, it has become somewhat of a bad habit for me and it is hard to unlearn.[/quote]

I'm a recovering LTR addict, so maybe I can help a little

You seem to be aware of your problem, which is that coldness. That can get you some initial attraction, but if the girl makes no progress breaking through your tough shell, if you don't give her some emotional IOI's if you will, she'll eventually give up.

Like getting over approach anxiety, the best way to learn a good new habit is to push your comfort zone and practice being open/honest/vulnerable. You can ever start by just telling the girl "hey, it's really hard for me to open up. It takes a while for me to trust someone." And you'll be congruent. She may even work harder to earn your trust.

Easiest practice is to open up with women you already trust. Hopefully you have some in your life. Your mother, sister cousins, plutonic friends, wives of your guy friends etc. You don't have to practice being open in a romantic context. Try being more open with your guy friends, give them a compliment. You might be surprised.

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