Come on dude, don't fuel their fire... It's not about manipulation, it's about creating oppurtunities that otherwise wouldn't be there... that's the reason why PU is looked down upon and we don't use our real names, girls think we'll lie, manipulate, strategize and do anything we can to sleep with them... some of us may, I personally use my skills to attract, interest and interact with a girl that otherwise, before coming into my own, I would never have even talked to in the first place... I've never lied or manipulated a girl to pick her up, I've never told her I'd date her, I cared about her, that I had a different occupation, anything... I've honestly never lied to or manipulated a girl I've picked up, I might avoid conversation that I feel would lessen my chances but who doesn't... Being straight up honest with them will keep them coming back and you in good standing..

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i think its 2a.m. up there but ill check....its three here.......and hey, how come people from s.c. still order drinks two or three ways(e.g. ill have two jagers four ways) ? i thought s.c. got rid of the mini-bottle thing. that bar buckhead saloon is supposed to be a great bar with lots of talent. one of the owners name is scott munns. he is a good guy. if you do go there i could have him take care of ya. the band from there plays at my bar a lot...good cover music

and to the all-american guy.....where did you play?
i was voted to the all-america baseball team in college too. played two years of pro ball.......great! I CANT WAIT FOR ALL THE SAM MALONE jabs at me

Oh yeah, I remember you. So you became a bartender. How's that working out for you?

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It's liquor by the drink in S.C. now..

Ok, that's good info. I'm not far from Charlotte. It's a regular place I work, mostly day game.. And mostly for fun.

Heck bro, I haven't hung out in bars in years. Haven't needed too.

I used to pull strippers out of club 2000 (Old Pineville Rd.) with regularity a decade ago. The regular clientèle or the amateurs? Not a problem.

Atlanta? Back in the '90's one of my favorite locations was in Norcross, Georgia. Damn, I can't remember the name of that sports bar or that country bar I used to frequent. Plenty of lonely women. The wait staff was my thing.

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I got drafted out of highschool (Rockies) but sadly I sustained an injury during my first year of rookie ball, that I still haven't really been able to fully recover from. Cool that you played ball to though...

See Pickup has alot of similiaritys to Baseball, when your just starting out... You need to do Tee drills, and soft toss and your always worried about your mechanics, because they suck... Thats like when your just starting out and using canned lines and material.

But later when your confident in your mechanics you don't have to think about those things anymore, it just comes naturally... Ball, Spin, Location, Swing... you don't have to worry about your hip action, your hands, your weight balance, your extention etc etc etc... Same in pickup once you have used the canned shit for awhile and you start understanding how it actually works this attracting women thing... then you just do it... you don't have to think... Girl, Approach, Attract, Close... Same shit man

Great then..

We're waiting..

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Frydog my names Johnny, and my friends call me The Wild One. I can pick up any girl in any bar in Charlotte. I will go to buckhead and pick up easily. I will tell someone to give a message to your owner via my friend who bartends their.

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My friends, this is what we refer to in poker as......."Calling the bluff".

Wow. Um, I was just kidding around, didn't mean to make you all defensive. Good demo of how not to DHV, by the way.

You ever hear that old one about catching more flies with honey than vinegar?

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sorry to hear that you got hurt....that sucks ass. it was an experience though, huh? some fun years.


and hey s.c...........norcross! you may be trying to remember barnicles or wild wings or cowboys..i hooked up with a waitress there about 8 years ago and still see her once in a while..there are some pretty girls up there in gwynett county.


best of luck

ill try to stop leaving messages.......its addictive


ill let yall get back to what you guys do and i'll stop being a "troll"

-frydog

I really don't know you at all but if there is a place to help people to become better in one of the major parts of life then I don't see why you would take the time to even mock or subject it to your own ridiculious rants about shit you don't even know about

You're not being a troll, your being an ignorant dumbass. This is a forum where guys exchange views and ways to improve themselves, you got an objective to that?

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Anyone can walk into a bar and pick up a random girl.
The trick is to make the experience unforgettable to her.
A real PUA will make every women he encounters feel like she experience something once in a lifetime.

ma·nip·u·late /məˈnɪpyəˌleɪt/
Pronunciation[muh-nip-yuh-leyt]

–verb (used with object), -lat·ed, -lat·ing.

1. to manage or influence skillfully, esp. in an unfair manner: to manipulate people's feelings.

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Manipulating is not necessarily unfair. But if you're more skillful then someone and if you compete with them at all you're being unfair.

Life is about survival and its entirely unfair. Not for the girls who you -skillfully influence- they will only like you if they like you, you have to have an effect on them therefore, therefore all communication with a desire behind it IS a form of manipulation.

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3. to adapt or change (accounts, figures, etc.) to suit one's purpose or advantage.


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Adapt or die, its life's way. I am not saying you or anyone should or does lie but..

-There is an exception to every rule, Including this one.
Author, -I forget-

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