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Do you feel Ashamed for being a PUA?
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*Ahem* Adam Lyons is one, also various people have invited Gambler to their wedding because they found their wives using the methods mentioned in his book.
I stand corrected. O.K. so you guys have a role model now. My work here is done. [/code]

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I know some guys have no idea what I am talking about. I think it's because they don't understand fulfillment. To those guys, I am truly sorry. It is very hard for me to give up on people who don't want, need, appreciate, or even consider my help; but I must be heard. I have a point.
It seems as though, even though you have recently learned some things about fulfillment, you have a ways to go in learning about fullfilment.

You remind me of one of those missionaries holding up signs that say things about God and divine judgement on Bourbon Street during Mardi Gras. lol

Fulfillment is not about removal, magnum45. It's about filling and enriching your life. Happiness comes not from restraint and the "do not." It comes from freedom and the "do."

Really, though. Take a minute to ask yourself, "Do I feel happy and fulfilled?" I doubt anyone would believe you if you told them you were.


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"My way of life"........LOL

Dude, you have no idea who I am. Before you lump me into your negative view of PUA why don't you consider that I don't call myself a PUA or the fact that I have a girlfriend. Whom, knows I am in this community and thinks PUA is a good thing that improves the quality of womens' lives as much as mens'.

I happen to have been here for over 2 years and have seen the good and the bad of this community. There will always be bad eggs in every batch, but for the most part the rest are good.

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Yea you should just move on to another girl. That will solve your problems. More women less problems.
you didn't get the point at all.

that relationship wasn't as fulfilling as it could be, thus it really shouldn't be happening. You shouldn't have to settle.

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Really, though. Take a minute to ask yourself, "Do I feel happy and fulfilled?" I doubt anyone would believe you if you told them you were.
I have a purpose and i am happy most of the time. I am sad sometimes when I don't have anything to do on a saturaday or friday night. I still get pleasure from going out with friends. Is it possible to be fullfilled without anyone else?

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Is it possible to be fullfilled without anyone else?
That philosophy is called Asceticism. Maybe you'll find something useful there.

The Buddha didn't really like it, though, when he tried it.


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*Ahem* Adam Lyons is one, also various people have invited Gambler to their wedding because they found their wives using the methods mentioned in his book.
I stand corrected. O.K. so you guys have a role model now. My work here is done. [/code]
I must admit, he got you guys there! I really hate to take sides, but "commerical pua" is losing. Most of the commerical pua's have gone on to try other things. Maybe back to magic or writing that "once in a lifetime" screenplay they have been working on :lol:

Getting girls is cool...but charging outrageous sums, giving yourselves stupid nicknames, abusing those that don't agree with you, dressing like flaming homosexuals, etc. is juvenile at best. No wonder the average age of posters who buy into commercial pua is usually around 16 years of age.

I just wish a board like this would embrace all views on attraction.


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Is it possible to be fullfilled without anyone else?
That philosophy is called Asceticism. Maybe you'll find something useful there.

The Buddha didn't really like it, though, when he tried it.
Peter the founder of the Rome Church said that we should aspire not to have a wife, but if we are unable to restrain from our earthly desires then we should marry.

I wonder if accepting my life with no woman in it would be harmful or helpful. I think having an attitude of not caring because I can always be content with being with myself will be incredibily sexy.

Most PUA preach having other women around so you won't care so much about one girl. I wont have to have other girls at all if I believe in this. I will be able to walk away any time. I can just walk away because I am content. That is an interesting perspective.

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I will be able to walk away any time. I can just walk away because I am content. That is an interesting perspective.
Okay? Tynan said that same exact thing in his book, Make Her Chase You.

You're not being original.

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I'm thinking that instead of having women around as your second choice, just be content with only yourself as your second choice.

Does that make sense?

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I'm thinking that instead of having women around as your second choice, just be content with only yourself as your second choice.

Does that make sense?
I don't like being alone with myself, because i have the craziest thoughts.

like one time, when i was alone just thinking (after watching dollhouse) I thought about committing suicide...not because i'm depressed or hate life, or anything, but just because i wanted to know what death felt like lol

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I'm thinking that instead of having women around as your second choice, just be content with only yourself as your second choice.

Does that make sense?
I don't like being alone with myself, because i have the craziest thoughts.

like one time, when i was alone just thinking (after watching dollhouse) I thought about committing suicide...not because i'm depressed or hate life, or anything, but just because i wanted to know what death felt like lol
WOW !!! WTF is happening here , Kristal are becoming magnum #2???? o.O

I swear this whole thread deserves to be mentioned in the "Thundercat's Top 10 List" as being the most F*ED UP thread of 2009!!!!!!!!!!!! Just WOW!

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I just wish a board like this would embrace all views on attraction.
There's a reason as to why you've never been banned :wink:
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Peter the founder of the Rome Church said that we should aspire not to have a wife, but if we are unable to restrain from our earthly desires then we should marry.

I wonder if accepting my life with no woman in it would be harmful or helpful. I think having an attitude of not caring because I can always be content with being with myself will be incredibily sexy.
Just as a sense of spiritual fulfillment can be discovered from practicing restraint, the same, I believe, can also be discovered through healthy indulgence. Philip Toshio Sudo's message in his book "Zen Sex" was that we could achieve spiritual enlightenment through the act of sex.

David Deida said something along the lines of there being 3 stages when it comes to our own state of sexual relationships. I'm paraphrasing from memory, so forgive me for any inaccuracies, but he said the first stage is a dependence, like you feel as if you need a woman. The second stage that you mature to is independence, like feeling as if you don't need anyone else to feel fulfilled. Then, the third stage is "opening up to God" or something like that through sexual relations with someone of your opposite sexual polarity. It's about going deeper than your earthly sense of fulfillment by connecting with others.

In short, I really don't think that keeping to yourself will lead to any sort of spiritual xenith, if that is indeed what you seek. You seem to be implying that you want something deeper than just a roll in the hay with hot chicks, but I think you also need to take some time to really figure out what it is that you want for yourself.


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David Deida said something along the lines of there being 3 stages when it comes to our own state of sexual relationships. I'm paraphrasing from memory, so forgive me for any inaccuracies, but he said the first stage is a dependence, like you feel as if you need a woman. The second stage that you mature to is independence, like feeling as if you don't need anyone else to feel fulfilled. Then, the third stage is "opening up to God" or something like that through sexual relations with someone of your opposite sexual polarity. It's about going deeper than your earthly sense of fulfillment by connecting with others.
That sounds like marriage.

It should be obvious that I need to figure out what I want. I think the best way for me to do that is to be alone because I have had enough experience with women to understand what I need to do. I have to clear my mind.
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I don't like being alone with myself, because i have the craziest thoughts.

like one time, when i was alone just thinking (after watching dollhouse) I thought about committing suicide...not because i'm depressed or hate life, or anything, but just because i wanted to know what death felt like lol
Me either dude. I just freak out and go crazy. I start pacing in my room and almost crying. I think that part of my problem is the need to go out and be social. I think it's because if I am not being productive then I figure I am being a failure.

I think it might be a unhealthy to assume I'm being a failure. I think if I accept myself for staying at home all weekend long, and stop fighting it so much, that I may be more content with my life.

Then when I do interact with women. I won't feel ashamed for having spent the weekend at home alone. I also wont feel like I need her because I am content with myself.

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