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Arkitekt
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Like I said, once I feel like I'm at a comfortable place with all the different methodologies, I'll offer it to the guys I work for. Plus, I'll get to raise my salary ;)
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A raise in the salary is always a good thing.
True, but Zip, you won't get as much repeat business. ;)
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True, but Zip, you won't get as much repeat business. ;)
My ass! A Pivot with the training and experience of a PUA... thats like taking your gun shooting magic bullets... and making it a magic fucking bazooka.

Give me Zip as a Pivot and set me loose on South Beach! :P
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About your window of opportunity Zip I agree- yet also disagree. I believe it depends on your style of game and skill level. If you haven't mastered your body language and voice tonality then yeah you will be thinking that if a guy walks in and waits a few seconds before saying something to you. So for beginners, yes I agree with what you said. But for people with more experience in the game and/or people who clearly don't give a fuck, you'll be thinking why isn't this guy talking to me rather then thinking that he is thinking what he is going to say and how am I going to turn him down.

The elevator is one of the easiest places to open, ever- I completely disagree with it being very intense. The only reason why I could see it being very intense is because you know that if you get blown out then your stuck in a confined space with them for a couple more seconds omg! get over it. Learn to be comfortable in silence peoples. But given the enormous amount of situational openers available which are imo the easiest type of openers, completely negate the intensity.

I can not think of one elevator that I have been on where there is no PERFECT opportunity for a situational opener.

1) hotels
2) office building
3) malls and what not
be observational
do they have suitcases?
are they wearing name tags from a office a floor above?
are they carryign shopping bags?
use it all

its all cake
if you are afraid to open on an elevator then my guess is you are afraid to open most anything cold

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if you are afraid to open on an elevator then my guess is you are afraid to open most anything cold
Not everyone has as much hair on their chest as you do. :)

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yeah they call me sasquatch.

just saying that it is helpful to be observant if you are ever looking for something to say and in the elevator there is always something

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I remember you saying something in one of your earlier posts about a guy having his own reality, and a big turn for you is having that reality opened to you. I don't really remember the exact words, and to be honest I really dont want to search for it through all these posts. Can you explain what you meant by that? What is a guys own reality?

Oh, and how do you feel about thumb rings? Ive been getting a 50-50 vibe when I ask girls?

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This one for Zip.

1. What goes into consideration before moving a guy in friendship zone into a lover's zone?
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I don't want to just half-ass answer these questions because I think they are fantastic. However, I'm going on a date tonight and then going out and sarging with two PUA's and a new guy.

Be relieved that I don't just sit at home all day, I'm out in there learning and teaching....getting more info to share with you all :)

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However, I'm going on a date tonight and then going out and sarging with two PUA's and a new guy.

You're going on a date tonight..., then going out sarging with two PUA's and a new guy?

Why do I suddenly feel sorry for your date? :lol:

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Yeah I was thinking the same thing. Unless he's a pua in the group. :roll: Smoothness! :)

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L.A. Tripp
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No, he wouldn't be a PUA in the group. That would be two different things. Our Zip is multi-talented, lol.
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Our Zip is multi-talented, lol.
Is that what you call it?

If I had a date and I found out my date had that covertly planned in the aftermath, I wouldn't bother. :lol:

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L.A. Tripp
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Depends on which date it is, lol. If it's her b/f # 2, he's too whiny, insecure, and AFC to call her on it, lol.
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The Wild One
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I'm just jealous because she's out right now and I'm inside reading exam material. O well I think next week is going to be more day game than anything with this schedule.

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Depends on which date it is, lol. If it's her b/f # 2, he's too whiny, insecure, and AFC to call her on it, lol.
Yeah, sounds like free dinner..

Pssssst.. He can call her on it all he wants.., it wont make any difference.

I'm not sure that's so much AFC, as it is being in denial.

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