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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 11:28 am 
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I've come to realize something about myself.

I am not a sex addict. Not even close.

I've taken the past few days to take a break from girls and dating and pickup in order to give myself a chance to do some self-reflection.

In all my years of doing this whole pickup artist thing, there have certainly been times where I used girls for sex just to feel good, and they've used me the same ways and for the same reasons, too. I don't like that shit; I guess I never have liked that. The Buddha teaches to not use people, and for good reason. Humans should be treated like humans.

There have also been times where girls and I felt a genuine connection, and we used sex as an expression of what we felt for each other. This is good. I like that shit. I didn't even get into pickup just for sex. Hell, I was just 14 years old at the time. All I wanted was an escape from loneliness.

There's a lesson I've learned more than once: I enjoy sex a lot more if I wait a little while, and I enjoy it less if we have sex quickly and without a real connection. I now know why this is the case.

I'm freeing myself from the dehumanization of counting lays and viewing women as a means to achieve pleasure. Instead, I'll do what Zan Perrion does. Out of any pickup guru the Seduction Community has to offer, he is the one that you can truly call a "lover," at least from what I've learned from him.

Women are beautiful and absolutely wonderful; I really appreciate everything they offer in my life and I am not going to let myself treat them as anything less than human. So, I will no longer seduce them just for the sake of the seduction. I won't go for a lay for the sake of the lay. I'll just seduce them if I really like them.

I guess that means I'm at where I wanted to be all along with all this pickup stuff. Awesome.

^^^^ this post describes almost exactly where ive been for the last 6 months...

Im looking forward to seeing where you are at 6-8 months after this post.

because i think there are some things youll find...

you will get ALOT less sex.

you'll get over going out, getting drunk and having a fun boys night out where you get laid at the end to top off a fun night. Because you say you dont want sex with just anyone.

you'll get emotionally attached easier because YOU are searching for those feelings that a girl you like can make you feel..... meaning you'll get hurt, or you may become more interested in her than she is in you.

The only place I can see that this outlook really leads to is a long term serious relationship....... which i guess is where ive been heading too.

But as I am still quite young I plan on going back to counting lays again soon when i go on my round the world trip. I do think its nice to mix it up between love and lays. it keeps you grounded as a person.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 11:44 am 
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This is an enlightening epiphany. It seems like a respectable, admirable, and moral way to play the game.

I think that it is necessary to go through the phase of using girls, being used by girls, counting lays, and going out just to release the sexual pressure in order to come to this epiphany. Coming to this conclusion requires experience and wisdom in game.


This new direction is a sizable ambition, but worth it once you've taken it I'm sure.
i disagree completely. I think its totally unnecessary to be a total loser douchebag player before you learn to not be one, and actually have feelings for the girls that you have sex with.

hell this is what I used to do before I thought I was so damn good with girls and a player, that my head blew up.

I used to take the girls on dates and actually have feelings for them before i wanted sex...

its nothing of an epiphany. its what most men around the world already do.......


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 9:24 pm 
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Does this Zan Perrion have a lot of good stuff to offer? I've seen so many guru's comming and leaving, guru's who at first seemed to be helping but who in the end were marketeers who use insecurity to gain money. I don't trust any american style marketing (buy now! inscribe now!), and Zan Perrion's site is full of it.

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I see here that a lot of people are having problems with what Chief writes. Interestingly enough there are a lot of comments along the lines of, he is soft and "manly" jokes about his sexuality.

As I wrote before, this is some good stuff. This is one of the most important posts I have come across on this forum because it deals with our roles as PUAs after we get good.

As someone said, this is what most people in the world does, having sex only when they like someone... Yes true but most of the time they like that one mainly because it was the first of many possible girls that liked them back so they kinda take what they can get.

Chief writes this from the perspective of someone who has multiple choices. An important reminder to not forget morality and whats important even though you can act like an asshole. Because acting like an asshole or at least have as much sex with anyone who wants it is what people who get into PUA think that they want. And then they lose themselves in it and forget that they have a responsability to themselves too.
It all becomes about sex, and only sex. The rest of your values goes out the window once you get that one resource that you so seldom got.

Anyway, the above statement is true, you get less sex. But hopefully, what sex you get may be much more meaningful...

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