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Women use words such as 'slut' and 'skank' and 'whore' against other women because these are reputation-killing words. And on the sexual market, a woman's reputation could make the difference between getting pumped and dumped, or getting the guy to commit.


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I think the word slut is subjective to each individual and their needs. For one man and or woman, being a slut could be easy based on home training. And for others being a slut could be hard.

Don't get me wrong, if you come from the hood or the trailer parks, YOU'VE seen sluts. Some women just put themselves out there. But that is very rare. This society just use the word WAY to liberally. As about 99% of women DON'T put themselves out there like that.

However, different cultures will use the application of the word differently and will have both different standards and requirements for implementing the word. Indeed, in Asia, Europe, and or the backwoods of many ghettoes, the word SLUT may or may not carry the same weight. It is foolish to assume that there is one universal and or identifiable standard for slut.

And all though many of these things are truth, at the end of the day, on RARE occasions, there is a slut. There are some girls that just put out and let dudes walk in with no prescreening or anything, and they don't do it occasionally, they DO IT OFTEN!! I think any person who is at the point of being able to give you a vicious virus because of carelessness and lack of responsibility can be called the word, man or woman.

There is a difference between a woman and or man who just has a lot of sex, and a slut. The two should never be mistaken.

Not all guys who slang shit loads of women are pimps either. Usually guys who are opportunists and see an easy lay can be called out too.

In my personal opinion to sum this shit up, the word slut does not imply the number of people you've slept with, but the sheer recklessness of being purely careless and absent minded in the process.

Most women try and avoid this. Hence why the word will never fit most women. I do think some men and or women use the word as a defensive reaction or reputation destroyer for hurt feelings.

A social equivalent for a man I would think is when a woman spreads the rumor that the guy has a small dick. Now think of that and next time you try to call a woman a slut. Just imagine all the girls closing up there legs because they heard that.


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We know as PUA's that women are attracted primarily to DHV's in men so if we see an HB all saucer eyed over a really rich guy we are apt to say to our buddys "As if she would give a shit about him if he wasn't loaded" because it makes us feel better inside.

An HB5 will look at an HB9/10 surrounded by men and say to her friend "What a slut" as if to imply the mens interest was based entirely on the girls promiscuity. This make them feel better inside on having no male attention themselves.
Your comparisons aren't the same. If the guy is ugly and seems boring, then yes it is likely that she is attracted to her status and money. Some guys will say it to make themselves feel better, but looking at the facts it is an easy assumption to make.

If the HB5 said "they're only interested in her because she's good looking" - then she'd more than likely be bang on the money. Saying she's a slut is to make her feel better, whereas saying she's there for the money and the status that comes with it would probably be correct.


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"If the guy is ugly and seems boring, then yes it is likely that she is attracted to her status and money"

The premise itself was not linked in the sense of a dichotomy.
Although the HB would appear to be interested entirely in the status and money irrespective of the physical appearance of the guy (from a guys point of view as a stipulative definition) the attraction is genuinley there as the DHV (of wealth) creates the attraction itself on a deep level inside her, in the same way we would still be attracted to a smoking hot HB10 even if she was needy or had a personality defect.

So EVEN if the guy looked like Brad Pitt we would rationalise that she was only attracted to the money (something that we cannot at the time do anything about) and opine to our buddys that on a level playing field we ourselves would be a serious rival.

How often have you heard of an HB9/HB10 go round calling HB5/6's sluts? It just doesn't happen: Theyre not rivals.


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"If the guy is ugly and seems boring, then yes it is likely that she is attracted to her status and money"

The premise itself was not linked in the sense of a dichotomy.
Although the HB would appear to be interested entirely in the status and money irrespective of the physical appearance of the guy (from a guys point of view as a stipulative definition) the attraction is genuinley there as the DHV (of wealth) creates the attraction itself on a deep level inside her, in the same way we would still be attracted to a smoking hot HB10 even if she was needy or had a personality defect.

So EVEN if the guy looked like Brad Pitt we would rationalise that she was only attracted to the money (something that we cannot at the time do anything about) and opine to our buddys that on a level playing field we ourselves would be a serious rival.

How often have you heard of an HB9/HB10 go round calling HB5/6's sluts? It just doesn't happen: Theyre not rivals.
I know myself and most of my group of mates would see that she was interested in him because he was good looking. Only a fool or someone who needs to feel good about themselves would say "it's because of the money" if it wasn't. You can't really say "we" - only some people. I don't think many would say this.

I've heard lots of hot girls call not so hot ones sluts. Loads of times. More often than not it's because the not so hot ones are easier for the guy to get with and a hot girl is only really going to put out for the best guy, whereas on the other hand Mrs Average has to make a choice: is this the best she can get or can she get better? She can't afford to be as picky.


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It does tend to be women who use the euphemism " slut" against each other. True as Roz points out as a reputation destroyer against competition but also as a validation to themselves to avoid cognitive dissonance, to explain.....

We know as PUA's that women are attracted primarily to DHV's in men so if we see an HB all saucer eyed over a really rich guy we are apt to say to our buddys "As if she would give a shit about him if he wasn't loaded" because it makes us feel better inside.

An HB5 will look at an HB9/10 surrounded by men and say to her friend "What a slut" as if to imply the mens interest was based entirely on the girls promiscuity. This make them feel better inside on having no male attention themselves.

I have had this conversation with two HB5's myself about a an HB8 friend who is one of the lovliest girls you could ever meet whom they labelled "slut" because of the male attention : and one even said "I could have just as many men around me if I spread my legs as often as her!!" to whit I explained that "No you couldn't because you're not very nice as a person or to look at for that matter" Didn't go down very well if I remember correctly.
Haha I love this one. And it just proves my point. The term 'slut' is thrown around without any context to it.

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whether or not there is a "slut" is an argument about abstractions, but whether or not to call a woman a slut is much more concrete. The answer is a definite NO. There are multiple reasons for this, but the #1 reason is that happy straight guys who get laid have no need for the word at all. Bitter/frustrated/angry/insert-negative-adjective men say slut so much that when you hear a strange guy say it, it lumps him in with that shit can crowd in your mind whether you like it or not.


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"You can't really say "we" "

In this sense it is appropriate as the "we" referred to are PUA's themselves fully aware that only 20% of a womans attraction triggers are based on genetic looks.

The other being 80% being indicators of replication/survival value; in other words DHV's. Let's face it the whole community is based on DHV projection to HB's to trigger attraction and then "pick them up".

This thread seems to have lost it's way a bit so.... in a sense the term "slut" in my eyes is a attributable trait used as a value destroyer to the recipient or a self esteem booster to the attributer utilised primarily by females.


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I would agree with most that the term slut should never be used, and if it is used, the word should never be used lightly. Most of the women that I mentioned above, who will fuck what ever whenever are extremely rare, though they do exist. There are very few who are "sex addicts" and will do it whatever whenever. Most women have limits and boundaries. I think most guys use it because of pure jealous, "that slut won't get with me, but she'll get with that douche bag?" type of thing.

Even the women who can be called sluts shouldn't, most of them are really fucked up in the head with daddy problems, so they go through shit loads of dick hoping to find daddy. Shit isn't a laughing matter or something to take lightly. If anyone remembers the movie Black Snake Moan, they'd know women like that couldn't help themselves. They are hurt inside and need some help. Women like that should never be fucked by anyone, its only making the void inside her heart larger. She needs therapy and a support group to attend to. And she needs to replay Christina Aguilera I am beautiful like a million types.

There’s a girl at my school who does just kinda throw it out there, and she doesn't look great. I never really saw a girl with weak inner game until I met this girl. When guys have weak inner game they take it out on the world. When women have weak inner game, most of the time they allow themselves to be abused.

An old buddy of mine from Belarus said that in his old village there was a woman who would have sex with most of the younger guys there. You could come for some food, and she’d have sex with you. In fact he said that there’d be 3 to 5 guys in her house at one time. She’d cook them food, let them sleep in if they wanted. And of course she’d fuck them all at the same time. But after actually talking to her my friend found out that her two sons and her husband died in a factory accident. She said she felt lonely without them. Does this shit sound funny or something light to make fun of? No, she needs some fucking help, and god rest her soul.

Point being, most women who fuck who ever, whenever, and how ever, have some fucking problems and need problem. Calling them a slut isn’t helping any one including her. She has image issues etc.

Do think this thread is quite useless. But I think it's helpful to identify the true reason ^^ of some of this stuff. Most women do not have sex recklessly, nor do they sleep with every guy they see. Even if they see a lot. That's why most of the time slut is the wrong word to use. Guys just need to get a journal and write in it, "I liked the girl, I created a fake ass fantasy that couldn't exist, and she wasn't feeling me, nor did she want to be apart of my world. I was hurt by this and wanted different." And then they need to move the hell on.

Spending your life in resentment is so shitty; I'm saying that from personal experience. It wears the hell outta you. I’ve just about worn out my adrenal glands. I’m always sick, and I’m isolated most of the time. I’m pretty sure you guys don’t want that shit. Move on, if a girls fucking everyone but you, don’t get pissed or call her out, move on.

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That's a really astute post Taos.

When I was at school and then college I noticed that the girls who tended to be the one's who put it out and about had one thing in common, and that was their dad's had left the their mum when they were just young children.

Guess it affected their psychological development being at such a young age and even when they become adults they're still looking for the "love" which was denied them.

If we meet girls like that the best thing we can do as PUA's would be forget about negs and disqualifiers and build up they're self esteem with compliments to give them something to take away from meeting us; costs us nothing does it.


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The word slut is often used by insecure women , who have hatred to women that they can't stand. It's a word used by crybabies and a PUA shouldn't use that word in his vocabulary :lol:

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This is my view :D :

Girls are like locks, and us guys are trying to break in through the door.

If a lockpicker can pick every lock, he is a master lockpicker. If a lock can get easily, then it's a shitty lock.
Never got the hang of that argument.

If a lockpicker can pick every lock -he is a master lockpicker.
(If a guy can fuck every girl) (He is awesome)

If a lock opens for any key - It is a shitty key.
(If a girl can fuck every guy) - (The girls a slut.)

That's not a reason to believe the slut-player paradigm. All that quote does is repeat a rhetoric without giving it any support.
It's quite simple really... the slut player paradigm is quite simply because of the fact that men approach women. therefore in order for a woman to be a slut all she needs do is say yes, however for a man to become anything near a player takes a much greater degree of skill.

Regarding the original question of the thread, i think it is more than what is a slut (i should think we all have a fairly good idea), it is that is a slut a good thing or a bad thing.

Well truth be told, it is a slightly bad thing, but purely because of the connotations that western society has put on sexual liberation these days (fuck you very much queen victoria, and conservative america).

However apart from the social connotations and the possible health implications, what is wrong with being liberal? Jeez every guy on this forum is trying to reach that level, is it wrong that girls were born with the tools?

So to answer the question 'Sluts dont exist, true or false?' Well that is obviously false...

To add my opinion... it's not a necessarily a bad thing at all...

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The slut is the female opposite of the 'player'.

In my opinion this all comes down to insecurity. 'boohoo, I don't get laid and she is SUCH A SLUT'

Same goes for women calling men a player. 'boohoo, I don't think highly enough of myself so I need someone to worship me.'

Or visa-versa


but that's just one side of it.

Then we got the slut a.k.a. wet-hole to masturbate into-slut. The easy ones throwing themselves at anything to fill some kind of hole usually gets this 'title'

Same goes for men.


But it's hard to pin-point where someone stands concerning promiscuity until you meet someone that sexually open.
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When men use the term slut, it's either:

(i) as a defense maneuver to shield the ego from rejection, aka "oh, I don't even want her ... come on ... she's a total slut! ... ahem ... I have standards ... ... ..."

(ii) when they're talking with their friends, alluding to a woman who is likely to put out fast.

However, let's be fair here- it's not men who use this term against women. It's women who use it against each other. Men rarely call women sluts to their faces, or tell the woman's friends that she is a slut.

Women use words such as 'slut' and 'skank' and 'whore' against other women because these are reputation-killing words. And on the sexual market, a woman's reputation could make the difference between getting pumped and dumped, or getting the guy to commit.


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This is a great answer. The answer sounds exactly like a book I just read, read a book by David Buss and Cindy Meston?

On a side note: Why have you guys given the word slut a negative value? Is it really negative to be a highly valued mate? Is it bad to have sex a lot? Not by my standards. We assign values to words based off of societies recommendations. I think you guys should all define the word on your own rather then allow society to define it for you. You have to be careful how you use it, some people will get offended but if you help them modify their understanding to your understanding they will no longer get offended. Several people around me do not consider a slut negative now.

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What does this thread even achieve? Yeah, some people call girls sluts out of insecurity - not exactly world-changing news. This is irrelevant to pick up.

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This is my view :D :

Girls are like locks, and us guys are trying to break in through the door.

If a lockpicker can pick every lock, he is a master lockpicker. If a lock can get easily, then it's a shitty lock.
Never got the hang of that argument.

If a lockpicker can pick every lock -he is a master lockpicker.
(If a guy can fuck every girl) (He is awesome)

If a lock opens for any key - It is a shitty key.
(If a girl can fuck every guy) - (The girls a slut.)

That's not a reason to believe the slut-player paradigm. All that quote does is repeat a rhetoric without giving it any support.
Ok let me explain what I mean then. Women in society generally are the ones who hold the keys to sex. WE are the ones appoaching them and basically begging them for sex - they aren't the ones getting rejected.

So basically the only reason why girls can be percieved as sluts is because they LET lots of guys fuck them. (not to say there is anything wrong with that - but it is society's opinion)

Guys who manage to get lots of girls to fuck them aren't percieved as sluts because it is difficult - in comparison to women because they are the ones who give guys sex.

Women have the power to give out sex, and by making it easy for any man to have sex with her she is percieved as a slut. A man who is able to get many women to allow him to fuck them is considered awesome because it is difficult.

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