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PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 6:50 pm 
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That'd be the day. Waving to others increasing your social abilities....

For someone that's a social retard and thus on the lowest 'social ladder' his best bet would be for him to talk to others only slightly above him on that 'social ladder'. Goths and geeks for instance are more likely to accept anyone into their group of friends that's being kind to them.

This would do more for a social retard than waving at grannies. And hey, those sub-cultures have females in them too.
"Yes I can"- is a better mindset, and starting with waiving at grannies, might be part of it.

You aren't born with social skills, you learn them and its better later than never.

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So what are those social skills in your opinion? Waving at grannies?


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^No, but part of your social skills (or starting to build them) is stepping out of your comfort zone isn,t it? 8)

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^No, but part of your social skills (or starting to build them) is stepping out of your comfort zone isn,t it? 8)
And the only way you can do that is by waving at grannies first?


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I dont know about waving at grannies but I dont see a problem with approaching less attractive girls and working upwards. Or fat girls but to be honest, theyre too receptive imo. I mean that in the least sexist way too.

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I know there are a lot of guys who complain about how their game isn't getting better. And while some make excuses others have extremely legitimate reasons for not being able to improve game. For example, I am completely trapped in my house with no real way to leave or go to other places. The best I can do is walk an hour to a coffee shop. Which I have done 3 times this week, each time I went it was a bunch of old middle aged men. I sparked conversation with them, but in reality I achieved little that day in terms of women. So when I speak, I make no excuses. Other than school I have no avenue of game and or cold approach I can really use. And I've used school several times, I've received little results. Opened at least 150 women in total, to receive almost no play. And so while some guys make excuses, I see the reality that some guys are frustratingly limited in their selection of avenues. If you live in a mid-sized city then there should be no excuse as to why or why not you can game.

However, if you live in a rural back drop like I personally do, then it’s extremely difficult to get anywhere or do anything. There are clubs across the street, no buses on this side of town to take me anywhere. Cabs want to charge guys with no jobs ridiculous fees. I mean the list goes on and on. So while I admit to not doing everything in my power to get out, like beg people for rides and seem like a desperate idiot, I have few options to choose from.

I have to take ownership and responsibility for not having a job, but in all reality it will be quite some time before I can really go out into the world and game. And that is an inconvenient but honest truth. I’ve been laid off for nearly 4 months, with no work, or pay, and just as I have talked to numerous women with no leads, so too have I searched for just as many jobs with no leads. I understand what you some of you all are saying, but take into consideration that some people may have real barriers in their way that prevent them from achieving success.


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^No, but part of your social skills (or starting to build them) is stepping out of your comfort zone isn,t it? 8)
And the only way you can do that is by waving at grannies first?
No, but it is one way of doing it, oh and BTW 'waving at grannies' in this case is just an example or you can say synonymous for doing things, you usually wouldn't do, if you wanna step out of comfort zone :D

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But what's the deal with you guys who actually announce, "I WANT XYZ", then refuse to follow the simple steps to "get XYZ-ing."?? What is that? Really? How do you manage to live beyond today? Do you tell yourself you want to shit and then instead of shitting, hold it in? Do you tell yourself you want to eat but refuse to pick up the fork? Hey, I realize that lifting the fork ain't easy. But if you want to eat, it's the price you pay.

Lifting up a phone to slide your finger over the screen ain't easy either. I realize this. But this is the price you're going to pay if you want a date. Waving your hand and saying hello; this ain't easy either. But hey, if you want to meet somebody, You're going to have to muster up some energy to do it. And yes, some suffer from speech impediments and some of you do not have right arms. Get creative . . . try your left hand . . . try writing 'hello' on a post-it and sticking it to your forehead. You can do it! . . . but if you can't, why are you wasting everybody's time here with all of your bullshit? - That's the point.
I'm really impressed Kasabi by the way you 'put' things in a simple way here. Want something? Get a plan. Stick to it. Get it. You don't say it's easy. You don't say we'll get it quickly. You basically say do it. It's a kind of "we miss 100% of the shots we don't take" mentality. No time for excuses, no time for mental masturbation.

Of course, everything isn't this smooth in reality. Sometimes sticking to the plan is harder than it seems. I can directly relate to this with my 30 pages of learning journal, and I know that, as a human being' sometimes I just can't help: I'm pussying around, I miss opportunities, I get stuck in negative thinking, I get lazy... and I even fuck up the basics things. As I write this, I realize that I might have even written one of the recent threads that reminded you of this Howard Stern's story. :)

Thank you for this thread. It's actually good to have someone promoting the "just do it" mentality around here. That's what I'm lacking sometimes. It's all about decisions. Okay. So basically, every time I decide to stay at home instead of accepting an invitation to go out, I'm not taking the right decision corresponding to my dream. It's simple as that. I will apply this "grid" from now on. This implies that I need to know what are the good decisions according to my goal though.

On another note, I've seen that Kupid has been talking about motivation. Determination is the main prior requirement I think. Determination is what will make us get what we want. Why does the third world kid wash his vegetable while the spoiled French one does not feel like doing it? It's all about determination again I think. The third world kid knows he won't get nothing if he doesn't work for it. Determination gets the work done, not motivation. Motivation comes and goes. Motivation just makes you go faster. But speaking about motivation without determination is non-sense to me. But maybe Kupid uses the word "motivation" as "determination/persistance" in his reply.

Thanks for the insight.

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Reading some recent threads reminded me of a guest Howard Stern had on his radio show many years ago. I don't recall the guest's real name but his early morning talk radio title was, "The Greatest Pimp of All Time." - Literally. The guy was famous in NYC for being a successful pimp.

So a guy called in . . . he sounded like an educated fellow. His question was, "Hey, I really want to be just like you. I want to be a pimp! Do you have any pointers?"

The rest of the conversation went something like this:

Greatest Pimp: Sure, sure . . . do you have a girlfriend?
Smart Guy: Ehm, yes.
Greatest Pimp: That's good . . . Well, pimp her ass out. You can start with your friends. . . People you know.
Smart Guy: (Silence)
Howard Stern: You still there?
Smart Guy: I can't do that.
Greatest Pimp: You can't be a pimp then. You want to be a pimp or you don't want to be a pimp? Which is it?

The core subject of this forum is 'social interaction with the opposite sex'. If you are interested in this topic, then get socializing with the opposite sex. And really . . . nobody here cares about you. For the most part, this is an anonymous forum. If you want to be an asshole, go ahead and 'get being an asshole'. If you want to play the delusional alpha-man role while living at home and having momma cook you dinner and doing your laundry, then 'get playing the delusional alpha role'. - Hey, at least this is funny.

But what's the deal with you guys who actually announce, "I WANT XYZ", then refuse to follow the simple steps to "get XYZ-ing."?? What is that? Really? How do you manage to live beyond today? Do you tell yourself you want to shit and then instead of shitting, hold it in? Do you tell yourself you want to eat but refuse to pick up the fork? Hey, I realize that lifting the fork ain't easy. But if you want to eat, it's the price you pay.

Lifting up a phone to slide your finger over the screen ain't easy either. I realize this. But this is the price you're going to pay if you want a date. Waving your hand and saying hello; this ain't easy either. But hey, if you want to meet somebody, You're going to have to muster up some energy to do it. And yes, some suffer from speech impediments and some of you do not have right arms. Get creative . . . try your left hand . . . try writing 'hello' on a post-it and sticking it to your forehead. You can do it! . . . but if you can't, why are you wasting everybody's time here with all of your bullshit? - That's the point.
Excellent.

A while back I was watching a video of a yogi who had spent years meditating in a cave in the Himalayas. He tried to convey the same message that kasabi is trying to put across here.

Plain common sense.

There is a reason people say that the answers to the greatest questions in life are often very simple. Its so obvious that people see it but fail to notice.

Whenever you encounter any kind of problems or challenges, you have to realize that they are meant to be there and you are supposed to feel anxiety or fear or whatever it is that you are feeling, this is nothing extraordinary. Almost everyone who set out to achieve what you want to achieve has faced the same challenges and had very similar feelings. But what makes the difference is how we react to those circumstances. This is something which is totally within your control.

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