Hmmm, im still struggling to find anyone who is actually having sex from MM.

My problem is this.
Upon reading the Game i believed all the marketting hype, read as much as i could of Mysterys tales of being able to attract any woman. I broke up with a long term gf who was a 10, the hottest girl in our city because i decided that i must have got her through "luck" as i didnt understand game back then.

Spent a year doing MM, sacked it off. Worked on my own game , trained with a couple of people until i came back to where i was at the beginning. Myself!
My whole game now is just being myself, the same as i was several years ago.
I don't believe there are tricks that can alter a womans perception of you long term and although i have used some forms of NLP, their powers are vastly exhaggerated.

I regret the journey that pick up took me on as it took me away from my life which was actually really good, but i became dis satisfied with as i thought Mystery was out there fucking a 10 every night. In reality from what i know of Mystery, he is no stranger to cocaine and most of what was written in the Game was exhagerated. And it is all a global money making franchise with no sense of stopping.

So for me its almost like following a religion only to find out there is no god. And when i see these new marketting gymics come out with "Attract any woman" "get laid now" it annoys me that guys out there will make the same mistakes i did and not appreciate what they have.

Im hoping someone can prove me wrong. From my experience though Game is confidence and you really only need a few minor tweaks to become good. When someone like AFC adam tells you they went out for 6 hours a night for 6 month they are lying.
Seriously? He said this was on Oxford Street at night. Firstly he would have been awarded his own monument if he was there that long and secondly there is only so much you can learn from opening girls on the street. Open, get the number, leave. That doesnt take 6 months.

Here is the problem: you misunderstood the whole pickup learning purpose.

MM was created by Mystery, for Mystery and he is the guy that utilized it. If you were able to attract a 10 you didn't need to play the game at all.

Who is MM for? A social retarded guys that need to socialize and do something that attracts women. They learn and after some time they got laid. And that works for them, as the grow better the start to realize that this is boring or so and they look up for other methods, which suits best to their new personality. But they were NERDS before, virgins or hardly ever got laid and can't open their mouth in presence of HB8. They needed to understand some aspects of social dynamics and learn a script, like in maths. Mystery knew who is he addressing the method to.

But for the guy who has a 10 by his side already, MM is like step backwards. You try to find the script for something you do with unconciousness.

I was getting laid using MM for some time at the beginning of the year. But it was not due to perfect method, it was due to me opening my mouth and speaking with confidence. attracting girls. So I switched to another method and I am still looking for the one that suits me best, or mix some of them.

But yes, there was a period I used only MM and that time I got laid a couple of times.

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Im just trying to get to the bottom of what guys actually need to learn. Aside form being alpha etc.
MM is made to sound complicated to sell books. I remember a guy on here who was saying "I went out and tried MM but i forgot to qualify in a2 etc ,now i am going through the book again with a marker pen and learning exactly what to do in each section before i go out again"

Im pretty sure that guy is still mentally masturbating right now and has made no progress.

I love aspects of pick up but im really struggling to find something that is actually worth learning. From my experience, well dressed, confident, good looking males WILL always win over geeks spinning MM. Luckily for me im in the first section, but i want to think my few years and break up wasnt a total waste of time

well bro what do you want out of the game?

once you know that you can compile a list of techniques that work/fit with your goals...

for example....

“I want to approach girls that give me approach invitations; from there I want to frame the interactions so that she knows I am not judgmental and I enjoy sexual women. I also try to go for Mltrs that start over same night/bathroom encounters”

so with these goals in mind I did some research ie going out to find what worked vs what didnt work I came up with a "system" that worked for my goals could it work for other guys with similar goals? pretty much yea but for guys who want to be the life of the party and a big social circle? bla not so much

at the end of the day its about you dude find what u want and the rest is just a matter of leg work

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I can understand where your coming from here. Some people believe the MM is the be all and end all and that you need to study the book and reproduce its contents while sarging. Don't get me wrong I do believe that the MM has good points in it and I do believe its very useful.

In my opinion i believe that to get the most out of PU, you can look at diffrent PUA's, take little bits you find may work and develope them into your own style. Nobody says you have to listen to one and use only their techniques.

So in summary take whateva you feel nessecary from PUA's but dont let them be the only source of game you aquire. Alot of it comes from your own personal experience from when you go out in the field, try and develope your own personal style that works for you!

dont just use mm..make your own game..getting laid is only a freebie

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im coming out....

What do i want? I want to fuck hot women. I want to know lots of hot women, so i can then use them to fuck more women.
Im sorry , but anyone who claims anything else is lying to themselves and not getting laid enough.
And i dont need to sit here and write out my goals, i have acheieved a lot of them and i will keep on achieving them. I fucking love life , i love myself and that is the premis of my "game"
Just hearing the word "sarge" is enough to send a shiver down my spine.
I have been out with a guy all night who follows MM and he has about 10 smoking hot female friends. he has slept in a bed with them, gone out with them and NEVER got to first base.
He keeps telling me that he is creating deeper comfort and all i keep telling him is he may as well have a pussy for all the good his dick is doing.
Get sexual comfort and you can do anything. Get comfort and you have an uphill climb to get her into the sac.
Do you think u can talk to a girl for 7 hours then suddenly do styles evolution phase shift and she will want to fuck you. No you fucking cant.
Be a man from the beginning. Hit on her un apologetically and be confident. And you WILL fuck her, because you and her believe that you can