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Just don't be afraid of trying alot of different stuff out.


Being a fanboy of some method is never a good thing


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Btw, I lately met a typical "natural".

I was in this class with 20 people, our college group, and we had to introduce ourselfs. I use a lot of stuff from Style. I introduced myself with good body language etc, saying some things about myself while staying mysterious. Later, the "natural", a kind of pretty boy, stands up, he has a bad body language, and starts telling he is in a band, loves playing guitare, likes singing and playing at bars etc. that's it.
I was social in the beginning and started talking with a lot of people, he was silent in the beginning.

Day 2 we were doing some sports with our group while having to battle to other competitive groups, and he started doing very active, alfa laughing etc very loud, but it's not like he gamed every girl. I got along with him that day and he seemed to me like a chill person. He started talking about chicks and fucking girls. We were doing a lot of handshakes (later I figured out he was doing it to DHV himself).
He had a quit strong frame and was good at leading the converation.
That night we went out seeing Piranha, a horror movie with a lot of hot girls and soft porn, with 4 other people. Before the movie started he was telling me that he almost already pissed in his pants out of fear. In the movie he was saying all the time he'd rather watched a porn movie. After the movie he was saying all the time how much he hated the film.
After that, I went drinking with him and the other people from the film. A girl who digged me before that day was also there. When I saw him 5 hours later with her he was trying to game her, like he was trying to steal her from me. He started to diss me for whatever reason while he was acting quite needy with her.

Day 3, that guy tries to diss me more and more. I ignore it and talk with girls and the other guys I like. he gets a lot of phone calls as if he was a popular kid. While laughing, he already called me a player three times that day. That night I saw him talking to some girls out of our group at a bar, he might have known them or not. He was not doing bad but he certainly didn't show any sign of good game. I saw no kino.

Day 4, barely talked with him. Saw him only at night at this huge party. I instantly got a chick there using routines from Style and Mystery and I had a great amount of energy and I was clearly having fun. I closed this girl in front of the whole group (the girls of my group were all telling me that she clearly digged me and that I'm a wild guy). He instead acted very alfa in the group and was showing he had fun, but how many girls did he talk to or even approached, let alone had game? NO ONE. After my close with the girl I danced a lot of the girls of my group, they liked me, they were having fun around me, and I was having a lot of fun.


Clue of the story, most "naturals" I meet do have some succes, who are tall and good looking, who do have a lot of female friends from their high school or college, did have some girlfriends and might have fucked them a lot, however, they often act very needy, buy girls drinks sometimes, and are socialy uncomfortable until they get introduced or meet people through other persons, feel the need of acting very alfa and to feel better than you, can act often pretty AFC and often defend their opinion that it's WAY better to be in a relationship than having a ONS, they often have a hot girlfriend, but are with her in a relationship for like 2,5 years (on the age of 18 ).

Then I prefer Style's method and MM and having good game than seeing those horribly style of gaming from those naturals.

Ps: I believe that everyone who say he is a natural but who is on this forum or read pua stuff or even know about it, are not real naturals because they are certainly influenced. A RSD kid who says he is a natural is a "contradictio in terminis".

And btw, who is saying that people who use MM aren't having fun? I USE SOME MM AND I AM HAVING FUN.

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Just don't be afraid of trying alot of different stuff out.


Being a fanboy of some method is never a good thing
Exactly. I've read much about game from different points of view. You have to look very criticaly to each method or style and take every ingredient from all those style and methods who seem good to you and put them all together for yourself.

Me personally I like Style's game (heavily influenced by Mystery with many routines but with more emotion and a touch of natural style involved), with the kino style from Gambler and some ideas by AFC Adam.
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What I wouldnt agree with, is that alot of naturals is unconsiously following MM or something, thats not really the case. You can see similarities in some of them, but some are just using waay other styles.
Well, I've seen some naturals gaming girls while being amazed because they didn't say and do the same things as mystery, but it looked like it. I am not saying every natural act that way, but of the very good ones some do.

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Ofcourse you can find similarities, things like push/pull, playful negs etc are teasing and are used universally.

But you wont find many "naturals" doing compliance ladders and microanalysing IODs with IOIs.

Alot of being a natural is just the confidence and the vibe you put out. Once you reach a certain stage you can go in without using any techniques at all and girls will love you due to your energy mixed with subtle non needyness.


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