It's so easy for women to get laid that some of them charge for it. Some women even charge men just to touch them. Hell, some women charge men just to be seen in skimpy outfits!

But no, not at all easier for women to get laid.

Same for rent boys, and male prostitutes, hell ever been on a hen night?

The differences in attitudes about sex are social and very few people who get laid regularly pay any attention to them other than face value.

The sooner people forget this bullshit idea that a "true" women is a being who is largely a-sexual is the day more people start getting laid.

Men and women are not actually that different when it comes to this. The social restriction placed on either sides however are very different.

Edit: How about this for an experiment. Find a picture of a relatively hot girl, the stick a phone number on it and write. "Hot girl,I will fuck you!!"

See how many calls you will get.

Most people will smirk, make some comment about the girl and leave it at that.

Do the same with a guy, and you'll get roughly the same responce.

But in truth, this is the basis of one of the best methods of seduction when concerning girls (or guys) who are on their own and NOT exposed to the social bullshit of the world.

A slut is a person who sleeps with people undiscriminatingly

Yes, but how many gigolos actually service women? And the demand for them is still far smaller. You don't see male prostitutes walking the streets at night for random women to come pick them up, because any girl who wants to get laid just has to go to a bar and throw the right look at a few guys until someone nibbles.
Not sure I know what that is...
I never said women were asexual, I said they can get laid much more easily than men. The fact is that for reasons which are BOTH biological and social, they choose not to, which is why it's harder for men to get laid. Very few men will turn down a girl because they are afraid of what their friends will think, yet women will do that all the time. Like I said in my first post, a woman can go home with a man fully intending to sleep with him then start wondering if that will make her a "slut" and back off... thus, again, making it harder for the man to get laid than the woman even when she wants it just as much.

90% of the obstacles to a woman getting laid are in her own head. 90% of the obstacles to a man getting laid are ALSO in the girl's head.

And that's without even considering that attraction for a male is based largely on pure physical attributes, while for a woman her attraction has a huge component of social attributes that the man needs to demonstrate before being considered.


Because everyone above the age of 12 knows that no one would really put their number on a wall looking for a sex partner with their photo.

But let's perform a meaningful experiment. Let's get picture of an AVERAGE looking male and female, put a profile on AdultFriendFinder for each using similar language, and see who gets more messages.

Do you really want to take that bet?

Everyone is exposed to the social bullshit of the world, we are talking about reality... not some alternate dimension where humans live without society and women don't have to worry about being called a slut.

1. Becuase again the social attitudes that around, we hold much more contempt for a woman who looks for male prostitutes than we do for a male who is willing to shag a prostitute.

On top of that, as far as human trafficing and actual control is concerned, FAR easier to entrap or force women to prostitute themselves than men.

2. It's when a bunch of girls go out before a wedding, usually the whole point is for them to run around, dancing with male strippers, and it basically is a large group of women with a license to let go of their inhibitions and act however they please together. Which usually results in alot of "lewd" sexual behaviour.

3. What biological reason. The sex drive is the same.

4. "Very few men will turn down a girl for the sake fo their friends."

Yes they will. Generally No one wants to be the guy who fucked a whale, or the guy who banged a slut.

5. Matching hypothesis theory. Look it up. In general most romantic interactions are not largely socially based on the womans side.

6. Not particularly considering the social attitudes in place. We're talking about if you both offer, who will get fucked more and who will get turned down more.

Ever tried Gunwitch method?

Basically, offering guilt free sex is the way to go with that one. It will genuinly shatter any preconceptions you have about game being some massive production.

Gunwitch method = Get horny + make her horny + Just be alone with her in a way that cuts out social problems -> Fuck.

No routines, no being funny, or clever, no good listening, no good conversation. Just "hi" and take it from there.

7. Not everyone has to deal with the same social attitudes!

But ultimatly the problems facing a woman in terms of getting laid are very similar to that facing a man.

Exactly. Unless a woman is ugly, she doesn't have to worry about that part if she just wants to fuck a guy. She'll never have to isolate him, she can just walk up to him and ask if he wants to go fuck.

Also like I said, EVEN ALONE women worry about being a slut. That's what ASD is, correct?

Oh, and on the biological side:
1) Pregnancy
2) Higher risk of catching STDs

And even with Gunwitch method, that's still more work than an attractive woman has to do. An attractive woman can walk up to a guy in any state and ask for sex, and get it. Guys have to get themselves into a horny frame, and maintain that frame in order for it to work and they still can't just go "hey, wanna fuck?"

Hobbits answer i believe sums this up very well.

Myself , i don't have a problem with this in the slightest.
However.

Buyers remorse needs a mention here.
A few one night stands that were shite could put women off that might be up for a female pua lifestyle.

The fact that there are not as many EASY women as i would have put it years ago compared to now may have something to do with it.

The funny thing is i was just thinking about (what ever happened to the easy lay in a club)
The confident girl who did'nt mind banging any guy she liked.

Must be AIDS or something.

Women don't put out like they used to.
I am sure other could phase and word it better.

PUA exists due to it being difficult to pull nowerdays.
Women have money/power everything.
They are more selective than ever.

I don't see why a women would want to be what you are talking about.
Its not like they can't get banged when ever they like is it.

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Its getting Hot out there.

Its all to easy.

I want to be a tree!

If a woman came up to you and said that to most guys, I believe they wouldn't just take the offer (unless they were really hot or something).
The reason being is the question of why. Why you? Why no work? Whats the catch?
No such thing as a free lunch and all that.

Beside from anything else, I wouldn't find it attractive in normal situation.

Now, before I say this I am just spilling my thoughts out here - no fact or evidence:
Sex has one goal biologically; reproducing. This is how I see it looking from that perspective -
Men with many sexual partners = good as more chance of having strong/healthy offspring. Attractive as he is in demand etc etc.
Women with many sexual partners = Might not be fertile, already has kids, not going to look after their offspring. Unattractive as offspring may not survive/be healthy.

Now, the world has obviously changed massively since traits such at those listed above meant life or death. But humans haven't evolved any where near that fast. Therefore, as far as we are concerned at a subconscious level those things are important.
Women tend to call other women sluts to lower their value. The reason being it cuts out the competition (or so they believe) and therefore they should have better odds of attracting a mate.

Is this morally right? Maybe not.
Is it going to change any time soon? Nope

Well from when I replied this has turned into a heated discussion! Personally I'm on Onoma's side. If a woman seductivly slipped sexual inuedos into a casual conversation depending on HOW SHE LOOKS I'd probably persuit her. YES it isn't as attractive as the chase because psychologicaly humans always want what they have. But I also understand that an ugly brawd will definetly have a harder time getting laid. But come on now! It's nowhere on the same scale as a man. We get erections out the blue and even on some pretty weird shit sometimes. Atleast half chubs. Yeah, if I didn't want quality I could probably find some pretty nasty lookin brawds(fatties) to get my fill. Which I've done. The worlds populated by AFCs. There standards are usually lower. If a fatty appraoches 10 guys i bet ATLEAST two will give her the buisness! Shit i'm in Iraq! If I wasn't try to better my self...I digress. Anyways like one of you guys said a Slut is only a bad thing because jealous b****s and scorn boyfreinds made it a stigma. You call a guy a Slut and his value rises hands down!

Also any Sluts present HOLLA!

Wow! This opened a can of worms! Thanks for all those responses guys - love the honesty and totally agree with some of the points raised.

The main reason for this post is the beautiful sweet girls being labelled as sluts. Eg one of my best friends who was falling in love with her PUA boyfriend while he was going around behind her back telling their mutual friends that she was a slut and he couldn't turn her into a housewife because of her past. Which he completely made up!

She was never a slut and has slept with about 6 people in her entire life (the great majority of them were boyfriends or repeat business - hardly any ONS). Ok, she was a party girl at one stage (after a bad break up with her ex-boyfriend) but never a slut. It makes me sick that he would say this shit about her. That is all

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....Thought you might like a girl's opinion....

So what is a slut? Someone who likes sex and goes for what he or she wants?

In that case we are all sluts deep down inside. Attraction is basically a feeling for, hey thats a good partner, I admit that I would like that one. So already there, we have made the decision. However, thats without all of societies moral standards, there are many reasons why you shouldnt.

So Lets see it this way, we are all capable of feeling attraction, the only thing that sets us apart from being sluts is the fact that we dont act on those feelings.

Why dont we do that? 2 reasons:

1. We feel that it is wrong morally.

2. We cant get the other person to have sex with us.


So the second reason is basically "Yes, I would be a slut if I could". With this in mind, how many guys do you think there are out there that feel that way? How many desperate guys are there? How many guys would pass up a chance to bang all the spice girls at once? Does that make them sluts? Maybe, maybe not.

The first reason is like, hey I shouldnt eat this cake it is not mine, or hey I could get fat. One of these reasons is valid, dont hurt others. And the only rule there is in PUA is, leave her better than you found her.

I believe, that being able to attract someone you want and get what you need from them is not wrong in itself. Whats wrong with feeling good? Its just the rest of society that judge us.

The one and only reason as to why anyone would ever call anyone else a slut is because he or she got refused what he or she wanted.

Man: Everybody else is banging her when she should be banging me. Shes a slut.

Woman: Everybody else is banging her when they should be banging me. Shes a slut.

We all go for what we want, it is allright unless you hurt someone. Unless this person you hurt is a complete loser that is obsessed with you despite your non returned feelings.

So, yes, we are all sluts. And it is completely ok.

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I'm not trying to be a dick Ezo, but you're being a Pick Up Snob in my opinion.

bbardot: you just reminded me about porn

Women say that all the time "how come when a guy gets girls he's a beast but when a girl gets with guys she's a slut?!?!?"

I think it's because men are the hunters. They are the one who has to work to get the girl and when he gets it he succeeds. Women are the hunted. They aren't supposed to just fuck anyone without making it at least somewhat of a challenge for the men. So it looks bad for a girl when she's fuckin a bunch of dudes because she's easy...

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Nothing in pick up applies to all women. There's no such thing as rejection... they're just playing hard to get.

Quoted for mother-fucking truth.

Your boy,
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"Do not blame, call out, alpha male, superman, or water sprinkle any hoes. And what will be, will be." -Hobbit

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I generally disagree with people who say that women are sluts if they have a lot of sex, but here's some funny shit that make a point or two:

http://jezebel.com/380908/proud-player- ... ts-on-tyra

and also:

The whole women are sluts/whores thing is something thats been well established thousands of years ago. Whether you agree or disagree the fact is it will never go away. A debate is pointless

Sounds like your home girl needs some advice. One thing..... for that guy to do what he did he sounds like a total tool bag. I'm sure there were clear sign's he was always a loser. She just chose to ignore them (I've seen this happen a lot with girls i know)

Here's a few things you and your friend should apply:

1. You shouldn't be so trusting of anyone.
2. If you suspect something check their cell phones, guys are stupid enough to not erase texts from their sent box.
3. Have some of your guy/girlfriends check your guy out when you know he's gonna be out at a club to observe.
4. If you think they're lying about being at a certain place, drive by it.
5. Find what kinda of job the guy has just incase you happen get pregnant that'll tell you whether or not you should be spreading your legs for him.

Better to be smart than getting played like a sucker from the get go. Its very easy to tell if a guys a loser pretty quick. But if you choose to stick around knowing he's a loser and not do any research on him thats your problem.

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