1. Your out with PUA's your expected top sarge, it's number one cop out excuse guys give to themselves not to sarge "I'm just having fun... so I'm doing something right huh?"

Didn't think of it like that. I thought I could just go out and make some new friends without being constantly told to approach, so it was my fault. However, they all seemed to think I was weird that I didn't want a girl in my bed that night - I don't get why it seems so bizarre that you just want to stay up and listen to music and catch up with a friend. These guys were going for any girl walking, a few of them seemed so desperate to get laid.

2. Stop using hyperbole, becuase no one was asking you to practise 3 hours a day, they were asking you to sarge, in a situation where the presumption would be that your sarging, and the analogy is irrlevent becuase AA is a real factor holding people back PA is not.

Good point.
3. KJ's are never any good in PU.

Since I rarely ever cold approach I think I might be a KJ. The goal of PU is to get laid, which I do, frequently. Concepts of kino, isolation and stuff have changed my game massively so I'd say this is a matter of opinion.

4. There idea of a night out was to have fun by sarging! Yourmaking the two exclusive for no reason.

Yeah I suppose, but fun is different for everyone. Either way I'll be sure to steer clear from them in clubs unless I actually want to improve my club game, which I doubt. I find meeting up with guys from the net to meet girls creepy, yet making friends not creepy at all.

"I don't need to" approach 12 sets at all.

Who could have seen this coming...
There was a reason i chose the exact words "i don't need to", as well as a reason i ended with "remember where i don't need to gets you." Because I cant takes responsibility for an action or lack off. I will demonstrates competency and real self confidence. I don't need to or maybe ill give it a go, implies delusion, a lack of action that cannot be used by your self conscious to penetrate the walls your ago has been working so hard to construct.

This is actually what my topic was about. I do have AA to a certain extent, yes, but just because I don't want to approach, and don't actually need to (yes, I don't actually need to as I am currently seeing three girls, so not needing to is not an excuse, it's a reason - does time x effort justify reward? please don't say i am validating or lying as that is why i don't need to) does not mean I am deluded. As you have said if I am completely happy then that's good for me. I'm pretty sure my Dad wasn't deluded when he was scared to approach girls. I'm pretty sure no one is. It's a normal thing.

Look, i don't know you, there's a good chance i never will, so anything that i use to analyze you or your inner psyche comes straight from your own words and the subtext between them. Yep, and this is a major flaw in analysing personalities, and it's also why probably no one has ever told me I am deluded apart from on an online forum.

You have fear, fear of something social, fear that is easier to push deep down than it is to face.

There are many red flags in what you write, your description of your "geek friends", immediately followed by a unprovoked defense of your character, suggesting your not using them for there help with work. This is to protect your own ego. And would not appear without some element of self doubt on behalf of the writer. I am giving evidence to Hobbit that I have changed, as he doesn't seem to see a difference. This topic is about me. If I just ignored all posts, what would that achieve? Maybe it does look like I am validating, but at the end of the day this is an online forum, where, like you said, I will never meet anyone from.

Another sign of an overbearing ego, is that, you really do want to convince us, a collection of names and text, to agree with you that you don't have a problem, that your are doing fine and that you are happy. You know why you care so much? Because if you can not convince people you do not know, how can you truly convince yourself? I don't need to convince anyone but myself, however like I said I am the topic.

The well constructed retorts you continue to feed us are again, a product of the ego, defending itself with the same logic it feeds you. I don't need to because if i try and fail, the ego takes a big hit, and admitting flat out you cant is another big blow for the ego to take.
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Though, as i said, i do not know you. So if you are truly happy with the way you view yourself, deep down inside, the place in the middle of us that you feel before you go to sleep, if that part of you is happy, then I am happy for you.

Thanks man.

If your not happy, you will not tell me anyway.

Wouldn't I? Most of my topics on this forum are about asking for help, not giving advice. In fact, one of the lowest points in my life is in a topic on this very forum, asking for help and such. Did I just say that for validation or for the sake of the topic? Only you can decide.

define "seeing" 3 girls.


Idk about you, but after a while some of my fuckbuddies find boyfriends and I have to search for new ones. It's always a cycle, You can be 'seeing' 3 girls now and none tomorrow.

Unless you're looking for a girlfriend. And if you were looking for a girlfriend why don't you have one already but instead have to 'see' 3 girls?

It's not a major flaw. I'd argue its easier to read someone over the internet than in person

How? DOn't really see it as I can type "I am an MPUA", post loads of mpua shit and still be a keyboard jockey. Whereas if I make that claim in real life and you meet me, you would definitely know. The statistic that says anything from 51-99% of our language is body language, is not applicable online.

And yet everyone knows when they aren't an mPUA. Interesting, isn't it.

Trixsta I hear ya, I get exactly what you are saying. Your concerns/points are valid & indeed make sense. In all of my advises I discourage guys under 21-22yrs old from getting too much into the PUA stuff (read my posts or replies). And thats because when you are of that age world is your oester, you have to give yourself the CHANCE to naturally become an interesting, attractive social being.

PUA is not only about 'getting' with a girl (I view that as the lowest form and not the best use of this knowledge). Its more about the Psychology of attraction and Mating - Thats how I view it. And what you are going through is a phase that a lot of PUAs COULD go through. If you are not comfortable with it then seriously Trixsta take a break from the PUA world, from the forum and from everything related to it. Fuck 'the Game', fuck Mystry, Fuck Neil Strauss, Forget about what any "MPua" says, forget Kasabi, forget about Hobbit, Fuck Marc (he is no good). Just take a break and give your mind rest

Dont let the whole PUA thing get to you.