You have to keep in mind here the different waves and femminist groups. The femminists from the 60's were just as oppressive as the conditions forced on women by men before the 60's.

Third wave femminism the wave that we are in now came as a response to 60's style femminism which constricted women to a set of values imposed on them by angry militants.

It's also like appreciating the religion of Christianity just for the fact that it condones drinking alcohol.

I don't see anything wrong with appreciating something for your own limited reasons. And, naturally if one looks at the grand canyon through the hole of a toilet paper cardboard roll, maybe one would become curious about the rest of it and explore a little more.

^Yes! Looking for the positives in all that we do, one toilet paper cardboard roll at a time. . .

The way I read it is that by calling yourself a feminist because you like the sex part of it is like saying you can speak French by saying "bonjour" and a few sentences (this is assuming that feminism was more about equal rights and that attitudes to sex is a consequence not a cause).

I think it's fine to appreciate something that benefits you in a nice way, but to associate yourself with it for liking a minor point or a consequence the most? Not so fine.

It's specefied I think three times in this thread that 3d generation femminsim has taken a focus on sexuality.

Then obviously that post is void

[quote="kasabi"]As much as you horn dogs would love to believe it, "Feminism" ≠ "sexual revolution". Even in the US, I'd say that the 'free love' part of feminism was probably a male driven agenda.

Chief, when you get back to Korea and you're looking to waste some time, head over to the Christian Academy. You might see some photos of the 'feminist movement' from the 60's there. The women from that group are now in some of the highest positions in public service and the private sector. They are writers, artists, educators, scientists, etc . . . These were tough times; some of them didn't make it. The militant leader of the time didn't take any bullshit and tossed bus loads of them into prison. (I hear this was no fun at all . . .) Do you really think that these ladies fought for 'freedom' to fuck whoever they wanted to fuck? I'd say that this agenda probably didn't even make it on to the list.

Every culture has thousands of years of ancestral karma to play out. Historically speaking, Korea is the rape victim of Asia. This is a tiny country that never had much military power. Psychologically/karmically speaking, it's no surprise to me that Korean sex work related women have reached to every corner of the Earth. It's also no surprise to me why sex is still such a taboo subject in Korea. Thailand, fortunately never had to deal with hordes of candy tossing missionaries; they do hold different attitudes to sex. Ever meet Japanese girls? Why do you think their attitudes are so different? Chinese? Vietnamese? Can you explain these differences through feminism?

Appreciating feminism for its affect on sexual attitudes/habits is like enjoying the view of the the Grand Canyon through the hole of a toilet paper cardboard.[/quote]

A fine journalistic post very insightful