I don't always do it with a disinterested tone. Sometimes I do it in a way where it seems I genuinely would like them to get in touch. (I think I stated this roughly in my first post).
It changes from situation to situation.

Its not all about being mature either. If the type of girl youre looking for wants a man who is a certain way, and you arent that certain way, then thats up to you how you deal with that. I like a girl who can use her own initiative and come up with ideas too. Whats to say that giving her your number means that she will be the one to set up where you meet. Theres numerous ways to go about achieving the same outcome. You could take her number and come across as immature.


maybe trix, have you asked yourself, perhaps it aint your game, its you?



All pussy is different but the pimpin's the same...


~Liquid Blend

_________________
Munroe: "I kinoed the hell out of that goat"
Jav: "bashing chodes 24/7 ftw"
Slywalker: "Neg the bagel"
Slywalker: "I had a 1yr old GF when I was 19"
SS_Trunks:I asked her for an extra pen, confidently....

There's hell of lot more involved than "being mature" but you won't get ANYWHERE by being immature. No girl is looking for an IMMATURE boy(Unless there are some specific psychological issues involved). Women who are into young guys want them for their young flesh; they don't sit back, smile, and enjoy listening to, "Durh hur, hur . . .what ever you want. Ehm. Yeah, well text me when you want to . . . durh, hur, hur . . ." (Translation: I have no idea what's in my brain and thus I have no idea what to do with you. Help me mommy?)

If you are NOT mature, stay home and play with your GI Joe toys until you grow up.

If you want to grow up, you have to think about ejecting yourself out of the pattern of activities you've come accustomed to. You can't just "think" yourself to maturity by doing the same old things and thinking, "I have the ability to give off a certain persona no matter what . . . " --- This is like the golfer who thinks his game can improve even though he keeps the same grip, stance, and swing. Can it happen? Yes. Have people done it? Yes. Will it happen? PROBABLY NOT.

Trix and LB, what do you guys have against ASKING FOR A NUMBER? What is so wrong with it? Why are you fighting a tried and true process? Just about every guru, newbie, pick-up formula, business/social etiquette rules in the Universe flows somewhat in this way - 1. Meet. 2. Get her fucking number.

Try this a 100 times and then tell me . . ."Ooh . . .but I still like passing my number off so much better." Guys, get a grip.

It works most of the time for me and getting a girl's number doesn't always work either - no method does.


I've matured naturally from the age of 16 without even thinking it. It just happened. I didn;t even try to consciously mature myself; it just happened.

As for asking for a number, I don't have anything wrong with it. If I get her number it doesn't mean that I am going to get with her. If I give her my numbe it doesn't mean I am going to get with her.

The way I see it now though, is that if I would be disappointed if a girl didn't text/call me then I should get her number. Otherwise, I am just going to keep giving it out, there's no reason why I should get a girl's number if I am not that interested in her. However, if she texts me AFTER I've given her my number even though I wasn't that interested, she's shown qualities that I like, not waiting for man to make the first move all the time - standing on her own two feet which could lead to something, whereas if I'd just have got her number I probably would've forgot about her.

Kasabi just because we both think we're right on some things does not mean you have to be arrogant, I respect your opinion but still you don't have to be condescending.

Good luck.

Girls don't become "women" till at least 25. Until then they're varying forms of the same crazy chick from highschool with more life experience.

You want to work with older women? First of all most older women now a days DO or probably thought about getting with younger guys. Not everywhere is it acceptable so far. So they have made Cougar Dens which you can find online or something. You go there and if you are good looking or they are horny enough, they will lure you back to their place. If that is too old for you and you just want to hook up with a girl a little older than you which is hard sometimes... then you just either have to lie about your age or ask if they go for younger guys. If they do or don't they will always make exceptions. You need to get on her mind.. If she says she prefers guys her age then she probably means it. If she hasn't had plans with guys in a while though you should be in because girls get desperate for attention so grab her on a date and bring her back to your place b4 a guy her age does. Let me know if this helps.

Stop making false assumptions, then attacking the falsely made assumption. You end up no longer arguing against the original points, instead ones you've conjured up out of thin air.
1) I surely didnt suggest anything about being immature.
2) I also certainly didn't suggest anything about being dumb.
3) I've seen girls who have found guys to be 'too grown up'/'too boring'/'way too mature'... and these are from girls who them theirselfs are pretty mature.
the only person who's coming across as immature here is you.
You really love asumptions dont you.
1) I never said I have anything against taking a number. I take I give. It makes no real difference.

2) It now seems you are advising to stay stuck in the same pattern. ''this is the one way that everything works and can only work it is the one true way'' is pretty much what you are saying, which conflicts with your original statement of being stuck in the same pattern.

3)I do believe there was a pua who went around doing nothing but giving out his number to chicks, and this worked.

Tried and tested.... lol and mine and trix's way hasnt been tried and tested? We've tried and tested this ourself(at least I have for sure) MORE than 100 times, and it works. But im guessing i must be wrong, because clearly, there is ONLY ONE WAY TO DO PICK UP AND YOU MUST GIVE HER YOUR NUMBER ELSE SHE'LL THINK YOU ARE IMMATURE AND SHE'LL NEVER BE ATTRACTED.

You do realise, aswell, you are going back on yourself...
Yet you are stuck keeping your same old swing and stance. And unwilling to try different ways.


Seriously, stop making assumptions, stop contradicting yourself, and stop being hypocritical.


And have a nice day. (:


~Liquid Blend

_________________
Munroe: "I kinoed the hell out of that goat"
Jav: "bashing chodes 24/7 ftw"
Slywalker: "Neg the bagel"
Slywalker: "I had a 1yr old GF when I was 19"
SS_Trunks:I asked her for an extra pen, confidently....

^Good luck to you as well.

Only the last paragraph of my last post was directed at you but if it hurt you in any way, I apologize. Hey, there's nothing wrong with picking up girls using the "chick's game". Many of my gay buddies do it and so does my "model" straight friend who just stands around all night long handing out business cards to girls who drool over him. I just don't think this works well for insecure immature kids who think that 20 year old chicks are the symbols of mature femininity.

Why would I be hurt? regardless of whatever you considered may have been 'hurtful', none of it was true or really relevant to me, so therefore, no pain. If there was anything that did hurt me, I would have actually, surprisingly appreciated it. As it helps me spot areas in myself that maybe I need to correct or work on. Flaws are nothing but areas to be improved. Where there is a hole, there is a whole load of potential to fill it. The usefulness of what is, depends on what is not. Sometimes the pain is needed to make you aware of this.

Back to the original point though...

I still have a lot of insecurities and at times *can* be a little immature (if playfulness is a bad thing, then I guess I suck ), I used to have loads more insecurities, and this still worked then.

...but I also had a huge protective coating of ego to go with it. So maybe that affected it.

Either way, taking/giving/exchanging numbers all seem to work just as well as eachother for me. It all comes down to each individual situation/interaction. But if it works for me, im sure it can work for others.



As I think I said in the beginning, I don't think trixsta's problem lies within how numbers are exchanged, more over his interaction and current identity.



~Liquid Blend

_________________
Munroe: "I kinoed the hell out of that goat"
Jav: "bashing chodes 24/7 ftw"
Slywalker: "Neg the bagel"
Slywalker: "I had a 1yr old GF when I was 19"
SS_Trunks:I asked her for an extra pen, confidently....

I don't think I have any problem. You win some, you lose some.

Only about 5% of every single post has been relevant, what kasabi said to me that liquid actually thought was meant for him seems irrelevant to me too and I'm not a retard.

Think this thread should be closed now, what started out as an innocent musing has turned into a shitfest; everyone has made decent points but surrounded by irrelevant twaddle.

Like Liquid blend said, discussions have turned into different discussion, whilst it is useful like you say (I read everything anyone posts in my threads) some is not exactly relevant to the topic

Edit

Or maybe I didn't make myself clear enough at the start, or both

Only different from the discussion that you wanted. What did you want to hear?

You want the 20 year old to text you. You want to continue doing everything you've been doing but the results to be different. You want the "20 year old" to be mature and different as this would validate that what you've been doing is A-OK. You've formed a reality in your mind and went about looking to validate it. This is OK . . . as long as you are satisfied with "you want . . ." This very thread is a great example of what you've been doing and what you will continue to face until you're able to grab the reins of your life and start digging the spurs into the horse's ass like you're ready to kill it.

You've set yourself (and this thread) for non-change/mediocrity and you WANTED this thread to go the way of most other threads on this forum:

1. Issue
2. Wild guesses
3. Routine suggestions: "Oh yeah, try the cube next time . . ."
4. Validation: Cool! That's all it was! The damn cube! Why did I go with the rectangle routine?


Take a look at LB's last post:
Did he really need to write this for any of us to figure it out? Read it. Ask yourself if this is the way you want to go. You are a man, not a broccoli.

Good luck . . . and I mean this in the most sincerest way.

Kasabi's right, stop giving out your number because it DOESNT WORK. Even if you know full well it does.
He's doing everything he's been doing because it HAS been working. Thats the point. It may not be working now, but I think the problem lies more in the non verbal as opposed to verbal.

I really hate this alpha nazi dictatorship of this forum., which tends to lean to MUST DO RSD MUST BE ALPHA MUST BE CAVEMAN. When I've had enough 1st hand experience and feedback etc etc to show how this doesn't work. I'm sure it *does* work, ...at times.

But the majority of times I've seen this fail hard. When all the person needed to do was accept the frame that the girl will not get invovled with someone that way. All the guy had to do was hint he was in it for more, and he would have got laid.

But no... clearly alpha amog caevman hulk technique all the way.

Stick to one formula, and stay restricted.

.peace

~Liquid Blend

_________________
Munroe: "I kinoed the hell out of that goat"
Jav: "bashing chodes 24/7 ftw"
Slywalker: "Neg the bagel"
Slywalker: "I had a 1yr old GF when I was 19"
SS_Trunks:I asked her for an extra pen, confidently....

So you're now saying he shouldn't go in the way of realising his flaws and correcting them. I thought you was all for making changes.

~Liquid Blend

_________________
Munroe: "I kinoed the hell out of that goat"
Jav: "bashing chodes 24/7 ftw"
Slywalker: "Neg the bagel"
Slywalker: "I had a 1yr old GF when I was 19"
SS_Trunks:I asked her for an extra pen, confidently....

I want the 22 year old to text me, yes. I want to continue what I'm doing but I want the results to be different. WRONG. I want THIS result to be different, but like I've said, you win some, you lose some. I ASSUME the 22 year old to be old and mature, but I don't WANT her to be so I can blame my failure on this. Who knows why I failed? I don't care. Some things are mysteries. Why aren't I attracted to fat girls? Because they're fat. Does the fat girl know this? Maybe, maybe not. It might be something incredibly trivial due to past exeriences with fat girls.

I know why I failed is not, though, down to because I told her to text me. My way works, and the other way works, but I prefer my way as it weeds out uninteresting girls.
That is why I posted yes, and that is the way topics go if they are ON topic. I don't see what is wrong with that. I fail to see how you can judge by this thread that I don't grab the reins or take control in my life. Simply because I give my number out to girls instead of taking it? The way you say it though sounds as if I want to falsely validate it to make sure I'm not the one at fault - you're wrong.

As for LB's post you commented on, I had no idea he had insecurities. We all do, but it would not occur to me had he not said it. I've no idea why he said it, but he did. I'm actually getting confused now.

Good luck to you too, but contrary to what you may think, I make my own luck, despite giving my number out instead of taking it most of the time.