Social Proof is useless in clubgame



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 1:29 am 
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So you are claiming, removing social proof from a someones game (if you like that term) , is like removing the most important aspect of it?
No, just merely suggesting that you've just nixed one fun aspect of gaming.
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Are you claiming social proof is the/a pillard of pick up? Or a very important aspect of it?
No, just pointing out that your little version of our game is less than .1% of all that is possible.
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I can agree social proof can be useful (as claimed in my OP, the theoritical part of it is correct, but technically harder, due to the fact that noone cares about who is around you in a club), but claiming social proof as being required, or an absolute, is maybe the worst I have heard.LOL
It seems you're changing your mind about "social proof". You first claimed that it is BULLSHIT.(Wouldn't you call this an absolute?) Now, you're saying it's only technically difficult. LOL . . . The difficulty doesn't rise from the fact that "nobody cares about who is around you in club". Are you kidding? Women are totally and utterly socially acute. The truth of the matter is that YOU(us men) don't care about who is around HER in a club. Most guys just see hot pussy and that's it.

The source of YOUR (or most men's) difficulty with social proof rises from the fact you have little tact. You read "social proof" and you think you need to walk into a club with an entourage. This couldn't be further from the truth. For every goal, there are million different ways to achieve it.

I'm happy for you that you've managed to find a little niche game for yourself but claiming that "social proof" or any other aspect of our game is bullshit is just ignorant.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 3:55 am 
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Have you guys ever seens all the populare guys at school?
High schools, college, who got girls all around them all the time...

Who get smiles...

Who you believe gets laid a lot from being populare...


Till you discover they are virgins...

Then you realize... that this concept is overrated.

It's also not rare to see close-to-virgins teaching in this community. Sadly they get major respect. (Dream? Mehow anyone?)

The thing is, they are most likely virgins from their shyness to sexually escalate. It would likely be very very easy for them to close a chick if they had the balls. Clearly the attraction to him would be the social proof. The fact he is the (positive) centre of attention. If you act the centre of attention and get no attention, you look like an idiot(unnattractive).

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 11:45 am 
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Have you guys ever seens all the populare guys at school?
High schools, college, who got girls all around them all the time...

Who get smiles...

Who you believe gets laid a lot from being populare...


Till you discover they are virgins...

Then you realize... that this concept is overrated.
Yeah I know some of these, but the thing is they're only unsuccessful because they have no game. They're friendly, peoplle find them fun to hang around with, but they don't know how to close or how to sexualy escalate or any shit like that. I understand what you're saying a little bit, I agree that a lot of pick-up companies teach mainly how to social proof yourself as a way of getting girls when they should also focus on other aspects of game a bit more, but I disagree with you that it's a bad thing in club game. I went out the other day with 2 girls, I was in a bad mood and so I just wanted to go out and have a good time with these 2 as they are just friends, and I didn't approach anyone because I really didn't feel like it. Anyway I was looking around the room, and I noticed this one guy. He was fat, had long greasy hair, a beard, and he was in my opinion an ugly bastard, but he knew fucking everyone. He was always surrounded by hot girls and he was just talking to everyone dancing around, and you could definately notice him. He came over our way, and the 2 girls I was with actually approached him as I was getting a drink. They'd noticed him too. One of them went home with him later on. I don't care what you say, without the social proof he'd created he wouldn''t have stood a chance. He looked a complete mess. So yeah, I disagree with you that social proof is less effective in club game.


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