The real question is why people chose direct and why people chose to be indirect

Being direct is a state of mind and attitude it’s for people who don’t like having their time wasted on women who aren’t sexually interested in them. Most of you guys, not all of you, are making the mistake of seeing direct game as throwing out some one-liner hoping it’ll work, that’s not it.

People who are indirect are that way because they’re afraid of getting their feelings hurt by women. They’re too worried they’ll say something that might offend the girl and cause her to have a negative reaction towards them. They’re worried that other people will see them get rejected and they’ll be embarrassed and their good guy image will be destroyed and they simply can’t handle that.


From what I’m reading you guys have the dynamics all wrong about direct game its really meant for one on one interactions with women when they don’t have there friends to hate on you and her. Its not for groups of more than 2 women. You guys are speaking in terms of going to a Saturday night club and approaching a women with several of her hater girlfriends and their defenses are on full blast and approaching with some corny line.

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if you approached a group of 5 girls directly with 'hi how you guys doing?' and get a conversation going with them....your approach is very direct. However, your intentions are still slightly indirect as the group has no idea who your target is yet, they know you want to sex SOMEONE in the group, they just dont know who. I call this semi-direct

i gotta call you out on this one cause i think you are dead wrong.

i'll use myself as an example.

I prefer going indirect because it works better in most situations. most of the time i am totally outcome independent, and i have little to no emotional reaction to rejection or acceptance.

HOWEVER, i, like most PUA's, have a goal in mind of what i consider to be success. my goal of success is consistency. using indirect openers has helped me pull consistently. i can use direct openers if i want, but i won't be as consistent. does that mean i fear rejection? no.

as i said earlier, i have little to no emotional reaction to rejection or acceptance. rejection won't really embarass me or hurt my confidence. I just prefer to have my game work and not waste my time trying to recover after i indicate interest too early.

you assume that people who use a strategy to avoid rejection must also fear rejection. avoiding rejection for logical reasons is different than avoiding it for emotional reasons. i avoid it because that is my goal as a PUA. i want to be successful and consistent. this is very different from fearing rejection and avoiding it because it effects my emotions negatively.

if we didn't do things to avoid rejection, then what the fuck are we all doing here? why even be a PUA?

Sexcellent, if we took measures to avoid rejection we wouldn't bother starting in the first place.

I'm going to chuck in my thoughts.

1. Even if you are indirect, she knows why you are there, when you neg, chances are she's not thinking "He doesn't like me" she's thinking... "hang on... wtf?"

2. Approaching well with Direct will get you just as consistent as Indirect it's ALL about your approach.

3. Getting blown out of Direct isn't worse than indirect, generally it's very polite and overall even if you are rejected, women will have alot of respect for you to take such a plan of action

4. Take note of number 1 and know this; generally there is no such thing as an indirect opener, your game with active dis-interest may throw up some confusion. But on the opener if you are one guy approaching a group of girls it is assummed that you are hitting on the women.

5. Indirect generally puts less pressure on the inter-action, but some good body language and a laid back attitude can usually achieve the same low pressure enviroment.

6. Indirect can in certain situations be more socially acceptable.