im just posting on this topic just so i get notifications when you post more tips - i like your shit man cant wait for the upcomming ones

Well, I believe I explained this in the beginning of the tread. When you study NLP you learn the benefit of scanning your own thoughts and memories a lot, and when I did that the other day I tried to think of the main things that helped me evolve, things I wish that someone would have told me when I was new, and that was the inspiration to start this thread!
I am glad to help.

As for being worried about sharing information; well I am very confident in my game and I live in San Francisco where beautiful women grow on trees so I'm not worried about any competition

And as for your question about NLP, that is actually a topic that I will write about in a few days so stay tuned!

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I am posting one per day for 10days!

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I'm in university too, and college chicks are no different from any other chicks!

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Day4. Talk less and let her talk herself to your bed!

Fist I have to say that what I'm writing about today is something I learned from studying Ross Jeffries, one of the greatest MPUAs ever.
Therefore I thought it would be appropriate to begin with my favorite Jeffires quote:
I know I have posted this quote before in the forum, but there is a reason for that, because it is freaking genious! Next time you are out sarging, study some AFCs approaching women, they rush up to a girl (if they dare to approach) and start talking. I have studied a lot of AFCs in the field and this is what happens.
They tell the girl their lifes story, they ask her a million questions but they never let her finish answering one of them, they get nervous and start talking about everything they see (untied shoelaces or dead bugs) they speak to fast, they are too busy thinking of their next line so they won't even remember the girls name!

How many guys do you see picking girls that actally listen to them, how many times do you think a girl at a club feel that she meets a guy who really listens and care for what she says? NONE thats who!

If you approach a girl with your canned openers, again lets use an oppinion opener as an example, when she answers - make sure you listen, what she says might be pure gold for your future game with her, you might use it as cocky funny material or to neg her, you can also use it to bond with her say something like "Yeah I can totally relate to that!".

Another important aspect of this.. When studying NLP I learned something important, everyones favorite subject to talk about is themselves! It is quite obvious, thats what they know the most about! So if you really want to talk to someone and you really want to bond with them you don't really have to say much, just approach her with a shit load of confidence, use something to get her talking, it could be as simple as a question, a statement or my personal favorite a quick cold reading. And then as she is talking, encourage her to talk, maintain a dominant posture and position in the conversation. She will be so distracted talking about herself that you can begin the kinoescalation and she will forget to put up her bitch shield, and then you just lean in and kiss her! That will shut her up and she will feel as if she connected like never before!

Guys as you practice this you will notice that pick up isn't as hard as it seems, you don't have to memorize 4631 lines and routines, she will talk herself right into your bed!
This truth doesn't just apply to first meets, it is genious on day2's and dates as well, just remember that when she is talking, stop picturing her naked and LISTEN to what she says!

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Very useful stuff! Can't wait till Day 10!

amen, why u even gana stop at ten?

Looking forward to the rest

that's some definitive material right there

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Day5. A number close is easy but where is the connection?

Out of the things I post in this thread, this is the lesson the one I learned myself most recently.
See I have formed a system or call it a method if you want, where I catch girls off guard, I can open a set and number close within a minute, my best closes have been after 20 seconds. This is fun and all, I have made some money doing it, when I make a bet with my friends, that I can get the phone number of any girl they point out. I have made instant number closes that my friends thought where impossible, everything from prude girls in packed buses to bartenders in wild night clubs. My ratio of opening sets and leaving with a number was incredible, I would estimate about 90% all within a minute!
But my ratio of the numbers I got from my instant close and the day2s I got from them was aweful, Like 10% maybe, if even that.
I won't even bother with writing down how I do my instant close, because I have now learned my lesson that a number is useless if you have no connection with the girl when you close!

Nowadays I have changed tactics, although I'm still direct in my approach, I wait longer with closing the number and I create a connection first! My number of opened sets and closed phonenumbers have dropped a lot, maybe to about 40-50% but the ratio of day2s from those numbers is about 90% close to 100% so this new effective tactic of mine have really proved to pay off, and it is actually more fun too!

So here is how it's done!
Open up and start a conversation, how you do that doesn't really matter, you never know what type of girl she is until she is talking to you.
Like I have said earlier, I will discuss NLP later in this thread, so if you are confused about the NLP references in this post just wait a couple of days and hopefully your questions will be answered.
Anyway, so you are talking to random HB, start with your usual routine, whatever feels comfortable for you, I personally don't DHV but that is your choice. Your goal is to start a conversation with the girl where you are both talking to each other (and not just you shoving lines down her throat), again, I'm gonna tell you how to close her phone number, so starting the convo is your problem So if you need your routines for this that is fine!

As soon as the conversation is on, start building rapport by using simple NLP tricks like imitating her posture and tone of voice (not in a too obvious way) this kind of stuff just makes it easier to connect. And now you strike your "evil" move, I told you in my last post the importance of letting her speak, and this is one moment when you really get to use it. Have her start talking about a place, a place where she really feels comfortable, a place where she has fun, it could be whatever: A bar, a beach, a hike, a restaurant, a city.. wherever she feels really comfortable.
Have her keep talking, agree with what she says, tease her a bit and make her defend her place, tell her something in the lines "hey that's cool I can totally relate to that". What she is actually doing is talking herself into a comfort zone with you! Now all you have to do is to associate yourself to her comfort place! It could be as simple as just talking to her and putting yourself in her imagination. For example, if it is a seafood restaurant: say "Oh I love mahi mahi, do they have that there? Thats soo what I will order when I get there"

Now she is in a very comfortable state of mind and you are there with her, so all you have to say is, "hey you have to show/take/bring me to this place some time!" And she will just smile and say "yes"

PUA: "So whats your number"

When you call or text her, she will remember that she had a good time talking to you, and this is mostly because she associates you with her own positive feelings!

Note that some girls have extreme bitch shields and are not willing to talk and some girls just simply lack imagination, these are mostly the reasons why this doesn't work everytime.
Another note to make, you don't necessary have to talk about a place of comfort, it could be other things like activites and hobbies too. Whatever puts her in her happy place!

This is a very sly and harmless way to connect and get a phonenumber, but hey! They don't call me Slywalker for nothing!

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This seems to be one of the best threads that has been written here in a while. Can't wait for the rest .

Keep up the good work!

I'm thinking of actually printing this off when all is said and done!

Day6. How to get a day2 without being an AFC

This is a question that has circulated the forum forever, I don't say I have the universal solution, just like with everything I post in this thread, these are things that I'm using myself to overcome difficulties in my game, there might be better ways but I'm posting what works for me!

The main issue with setting up a day2 is that if you asked her out on a date then 3 horrible things are likely to happen
1. You are expected to pay for everything!
2. She will assume that you are more interested in her than she is in you and you are ok with this.
3. If she has sex with you its a favor from her to you! She owns sex and gives it to you!

The paying part is obviously not the worst of these three, if you thought so please stop reading and go get a new job!
The problem in the traditional "Man-chase-woman-game" is that you are responsible for all the action, the ideas, the money, the logistics, the conversation, etc. All she has to do is put on a pair of victoria secret panties and make sure they are slightly visible above her pant line and the guy will do whatever she wants. After this she can lean back and watch you attempt to prove yourself to be the man and the provider she needs to never have to lift a finger again. And if she chooses to have sex with you, she doesn't really want it, she gives it to you because you deserved it for spending enough money on her, because women don't like sex, and men need it to survive.

All of this is the biggest and most horrible lie in society today, the worst part is that it happens all the time! In this post I want to get your eyes away from this nightmare scenario and open your eyes for something simpler.

First of all, I never ask her out, I just don't! If I want to go out with a woman and not just bring her to my apartment I say something like, "hey I'm going down town to chill out this weekend but my buddy flaked on me, do you wanna come? we could just hang out and do whatever feels good?" If you have played your game well enough before she will agree without a doubt, the funny thing is that many girls agree because they think you are asking them out, but they don't really apply the classical date mind-set only because you did it so casually. I pull causal hangouts all the time, it is not only better gaming than a date, it is also more fun. Don't use my line straight off, just pull something similar, or invite her for coffee, you can buy her a cup of coffee, but if you end up going for dinner after that, make that sound as a mutual decision.

Recently I was in a long debate with a group of fun people on the PUA chat about the topic of who pays for dinner.
I have a simple rule, I never buy anything for a girl I haven't slept with, this disarms the girl and she can't use sex as a weapon against you anymore. Most girls assume that the guy will pay so be careful.
I usually tell the girl that I have a principle of not paying for anything until I know her and I know she is a good person, I have met resistance while doing this but never rejection, so you need to say it with confidence and keep a good frame not to come off as a jerk!
By telling a girl something like this you come off as different and also you sort of force her to DHV herself which is always amusing.

I met a girl last summer, I suggested that we should hang out and she said "as long as you pay" I told her my principle, and she said that she didn't want to see me, then I told her how I backed up my principle, I told her about trust and all that and we ended up splitting it 50/50 and had a great time! Any girls reading this will think I'm an asshole and you would be absolutely right, but I'm a charming asshole!

The best "date" I had of my life was actually also with the most beautiful girl I have ever gone out with (so far) 18yr old brunette, a perfect 10, rare as they get!
We went out for a coffee, my suggestion, this girl had game though, she picked the place, and she picked a coffee place that closed less than two hours after we met, so if she didn't like me that was the perfect opportunity for her to escape, but I charmed her good After the coffee place closed we wanted to do something else, so she suggested a late night movie, we bought tickets to the late viewing of the movie at 12am, we had 2hrs to kill until then, so I took her to a place where I was a regular, We got all the drinks for free because everyone in the place knew me (big time involuntary DHV) after that we went to the movie and then we kissed goodnight. No we didnt have sex but the date was perfect, we had a great time and the chemistry between us was great.

My point with this story is that it was meant as a causal hangout and drink coffee but it turned into a six hour perfect evening, the best dates are completely spontaneous!

I hope you learned something form this long post about how untraditional dates are the best, I said I never pay for anything, I can flex that to a drink here and there, its not black and white, but she won't get a free dinner just for spending time with me!

I want to give another dating tip while I'm at it. Many guys panic when they are on a date because their date is too beautiful, so hot they can't speak to her. Guys here is my trick: focus on her flaws (keep them to yourself though!), look at her, she isn't perfect, noone is, this makes things a lot easier and brings her down to earth.

When it comes to sex, if you are gonna have sex with a girl after your date, make sure it is a privilegie for her! You are the price, kino her and make her soo horny that she begs for it before you begin!

[EDIT] I found an old lay report that I thought fitted here. I didn't read "the game" first thing like man other guys on this forum, but right after I read it I wanted to try if it really worked, so this lay report is kinda fun because it is a mix of my own stuff and mystery routines. If you like to incorporate routines in your game this is the perfect example!
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I have very good day 2 skills myself and agree with what you've said. One thing you seems to be doing to and I just want to verbalize is that bouncing help to build familiarity.

Don't sit down at the same place for 6 hrs and pic your brains appart. Getting too familiar is not good for attraction. So you could get a coffee, then if everything goes well, go shopping for a little while. This will build more familiarity and make her feel more comfortable. It makes it seem like 2 dates. During the shopping don't focus 100% on her and be the little puppy that follows her around. This will show non-needyness and leadership. Be playfull, make jokes, tease then go your own way for a while to check some merchandize. Wait to see if she comes to join you. This works great also in a museum.

Cheers!

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All girls are the same my friend. Yes they come in different shapes and colours, and yes they all have issues lol but if u got solid game you can attempt it anywhere. just change your style for the postion or play. you wouldnt use a bar opener if your at your uni library