I agree with alot of things said here.

Personally, I dont wanna be any kind of PUA... I think The whole Concept is cheesy... No generic openers or routines can replace a personality...

But I Do Admire What They do, They do give courage to people who would otherwise be sitting at home watching bangbros...

all the guru shit is all just shit dudes with game made so they could turn a profit off their talent, You dont NEED that, Experience works better than Any book...

Its just some people need to hear it from someone else before they'll have the courage to take the leap.

I'm Mostly here To Kinda get some Clarity Cuz I had a low self esteem, and social anxiety for so long I really dont know Whats What In social situations... But I can Game most chicks outta they panties pretty decent If I know them already. & I learned how to do that Just by talking to females and using common sense... I just need some answers about social shit before I can get brave enough to take a risk... I dont like to jump into shit I dont understand.

Like, Really though, If You all Want to learn how To Game Females.. Find a Hoe... The kinda girl who fucks ALOT, I mean the party animal... & Just be her friend, dont even fuck her, and ask her shit... If your cool with her she wont mind.. & You can learn a million things from that one person.

Obviously, "physique" is only a small factor in athletic success. . . and if you meant all the "physical talents" of Michael Jordan, I would disagree. . . less than 1 in a million. Furthermore, since you brought up his "mentality and belief system" . . . I'd say less than 1 in 10 million are capable of his level of mental strength in regards to his sport.

It's easy to think that people are capable of "everything" in regards to things we cannot physically see. Sure! Just do it! You don't need to be 7 feet tall to do well in business. Reality is . . . ask a thousand business school students if they'd like to succeed in business. What's the answer?

They have the basic skills, they have the tools, why don't they ALL succeed? Luck? No . . .they just don't have the ability to adapt and develop their mentality and belief system for success.
Most aren't capable of pushing themselves out of the comfort zone. If this were true, there would be nobody working in factories. There would be no low level workers. There would be no military. There would be no wars. Our Global social dynamics are built upon self limiting boundaries. Cheer lead all you want. It's like trying to convince a monkey that he's a lion.

Firstly, business schools teach you f*ck all about success. They give PRACTICAL tools, they do not teach you how to think big, they do not teach you HOW to shift your belief system. Personal development books do this! This does not mean that students do not have the ability, its a matter them being introduced to this type of education.

Universities just dont teach this stuff, they teach you how to get good grades in order to get a 'stable' office job one day whereby you will slave away until the age of 65 yrs old to retire on a petty pension which is barely able to afford you a decent holiday with your family. They do not teach you how to succeed, and success in itself is a 'subject' if you like....its a science that can be studied.

Only 5% of the world will retire financially free, the rest? They go the business school route trying to climb corporate ladders without investing in themselves. Listening to university lectures filling their heads with crap that wont get them anywhere GREAT.

We receive what we are worthy of in life its as simple as that. And we are the only one's that can increase our self-worth. I was there once, i was fortunately introduced to it, I have seen myself, my brother, and 3 close friends ALL succeed greatly after educating ourselves with this success-conditioning material. I have achieved things that I thought would only ever come from LUCK, chance etc. Now I can make this stuff happen at will!

I was also once in a dead end day job thinking about how LUCKY the rich are...trying to think of some multi-million dollar idea. Its not about that, its about UNDERSTANDING something well, and then systemattically progressing and building on that day by day. Yes, its a sh*t load of hard work, and well if you're not prepared to put in the time...then settle for an average life, DONT strive to reach your dream, and look back thinking 'ye that was ok'.

Look, we only live once so why not be the absolute f*cking best we can be. Seriously.

People are just lazy. Its not about their ability. It really is a choice. Factory workers do not BELIEVE they can do better...throw them one of the books in my closet, have them actually READ it, and they will OWN a factory a few years down the line (if they put the time in!). Ive been there from the bottom up. There are only two things that I attribute my change to, and that is; the knowledge i fed my mind with (read plenty of books written by others who have attained success.), and taking action. Simple as that.

Ability is f*ck all....I dont have a degree, never went to university...and i really dont see myself as the sharpest tool in the shed. Intelligence doesnt count much when it comes to wealth creation and achieving great things. I mean cummon on look at Einstein, the man was a failure in school!

Hi David,

some time ago, you posted up a post on "this is my motivation, make it yours" which recommended that the people who wanted "extreme improvement" should go out several times a week and make at least five approaches.

The emphasis was on taking the pain of the rejections. I have, in my own way, been trying to do this and socially now I feel much stronger.

I have had some painful shutdowns and I have seen that a nasty shutdown can really kickstart your game.

Well, I also reckon that there are loads of supposed gurus who are scam artists and who have their heads stuck up their asses, outthere who are expert in keeping people with the carrot dangling in front of their noses.

I think that it is necessary time to work on your inner game and also take action.
My trouble is stepping outside my comfort zone. I find it easy to write up word documents to increase my confidence but then I take time too long to just go and approach.

anyway, thanks for the post bro.

^This is a popular view. But unless you've put yourself in the shoes of a person who CANNOT make that choice, you'll never know how difficult it can be. (For many, it is not a possible choice.)

You're confusing the current state of affairs, the ideal, and the strategy to reach that ideal. You are saying:

1. "Everyone can do it" (But as you explain, VERY FEW people have)

2. It is JUST A CHOICE. (If it were that simple, wouldn't EVERYBODY have already made that choice?)

3. People are just lazy. (So you saying that factory workers who wake up 5 am and work 12 hour shifts are lazy? Yet, they are too lazy to make a simple "choice"? WTF?)

First, you have to realize that OTHERS ARE NOT LIKE YOU. You describe yourself as somebody who has the ability to make that "choice" and follow through. Congratulations and consider yourself lucky. Unlike physical might, mental prowess is much more difficult to identify. But make no mistake, mental prowess is NO DECISION.

If inner strength, mental balance, belief in one self, etc . . . was simply a decision, recruiting for sports and business would be a snap. Just find the kid who has the physical attributes and or the knowledge base to succeed.(This is much easier to do than to find "mental strength") Then you tell the kid, "Hey, make a that decision to succeed, OK?" --- Things just don't work this way.

To the OP: I like the ideals of your post. I hope that it can make a difference for somebody.

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This is true. Most self-proclaimed pick up artists I met need therapy. A lot of it.
Pick up will not help them at all--just make shit worse.

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I dont believe in game any longer. Just keep going out. Forget everything else I ever said. Good luck bro.

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yes, i totally agree... building attraction and having a girl eager for the opportunity to sleep with you is exactly the same as raping them. you guys need to get on the same page because dave's saying "game" is bs and a girl either likes you or she doesn't, and you're saying that game works so incredibly well that it's the equivalent to date rape. your game must be super tight, man! you should be a guru

Here is the difference...

The reason why not every 'makes that choice' is because alot of people (as I mentioned earlier) are not introduced to this style of self improvement/education. If someone throws a book at you and says read that it will change your life....well then if they dont get up off there ass and put the time in, then yes they will remain where they are in life. That is a choice. However YES they need to be introduced to it, this is one requirement.

Now, how many people in society know of Anthony Robbins (Hell even Dr Phil) but will still mock their work, calling it 'psycho babble'...why? Because they havent even given it a chance! They made the choice to disregard it before even trying it. Its the same as deciding to be lazy.

As for those poorer folk who have not been exposed to icons like Anthony Robbins (and others), this is a different story and well its hard to 'blame' them for not becoming successful as they really have not had the OPPORTUNITY cross their door step.

For most others in society who HAVE been introduced to it but turned it down, well who's fault is that. It was their choice.

David,

Game is just a synonym for interacting with females while having sexual intentions at mind.

Call it game, call it 'just going out', its all the same thing, youre trying to get laid, end of story.

David maybe what you are referring to when you say you 'dont believe in game anymore', is that you dont believe in following techniques taught by a community that call themselves pickup artists.

So . . . What you're saying is:

In terms of "pick up", people don't need exposure to gurus; they only need to believe in themselves. However, in terms of "business", people need to be exposed to people like "Anthony Robbins"? LOL . . . And you mock "Business Schools"?

They are ALL GURUS . . .

"ANYBODY CAN DO IT" is the number one marketing ploy of ANYBODY who is in the business of sharing privileged information for a fee. Sure . . . sometimes they add, "IF you follow my 10 step blah, blah . . ." or "IF you work hard at my plan" but regardless of the tiny print, FIRST, they want you to sign your check or swipe your credit card.

Academia is probably the worst industry in terms of taking advantage of idiots. Pay us "$$", you can do it. Anybody can do it. However, it's been proven (by academics) that we ARE DEFINITELY not on an even plane when it comes to academic success. There are ABSOLUTELY people who simply cannot understand math. Some motivated students can hurrah themselves to glee, work all day and night long but they will simply fail bio-chem and that's that. This doesn't mean they can't find success in other areas in life. They just suck at academics. No big deal.

But some suck at business. Some suck at pick-up. Some just suck at everything. Some are great with everything. Can you at least acknowledge that some are born with tiny, frail bodies while others are born with bodies resembling Greek Gods? Then can you at least acknowledge that some are born with unique abilities (you mentioned Einstein) while others are born with far less abilities?

If so, what makes you think that EVERYBODY has the ability to do EVERYTHING? This is a mockery of the beauty of the human race. We all have different ranges of abilities in different facets of life. Self limiting one self is one thing. Wasting your life, pursuing a career in basketball while you're 5 foot tall and have the reflexes of a turtle is IDIOCY. Yet, this is what ALL THE GURUS of the World recommend. Go ahead, you can do it. Oh . . . you failed? Well . . . you're lazy and you chose to fail. Not my fault, thanks for the check, and take another seminar next month. I'll be back.

Here's a question for you to consider:

The level of success you've achieved would be considered failure to many others. Did choose to fail or are you just lazy?

Reminds me of an old anecdote.

There was a great violinist that gave a concert one day. He played superbly, to everyone's delight. Backstage, a women came to him and said:
" You are mesmerizing with your violin. I would give my life to play like you do"
He answered:
" That's what I did. "

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......and whats the point in being derisive towards those that aren't that successful, as seen here?

^There's nothing wrong with sucking at something. If you can't jump, you can't jump. How is stating the truth "derisive"?

Figuring out one's strengths as well as weaknesses and accepting them is the first step to developing a proper strategy.