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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 3:30 pm 
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When girls avoid eye contact like that, it's not because they're super turned on by you. I don't care how good looking you are. Avoiding eye contact altogether is an indicator of either:

a) Shyness, possibly cultural habits

or

b) Disinterest.

I'm going to bet on B. Submissive eye contact breaks don't look like that. Submissive eye contact breaks are when the girls looks DOWN and then looks back at you. If she DOESN'T look back at you, it's simply disinterest. Shyness is very similar.

The other factor involved here is that girls should be SMILING when you make eye contact (So should you, btw). If they DONT smile and try to break EC, it's them breaking rapport. That's why celebs wear sunglasses at night and in the club. It's them breaking rapport with the entire room becase you cant make eye contact with them.

If you dont make eye contact and smile, it just comes across like you're staring. It's weird and creepy.

And if a girl makes EC with you and smiles at you, walk up to her and go direct. "You can't look at me like that and not say hi." Credit goes to Cajun for that one.
Thanks for the feedback. The massage girl was smiling, looking away, and then looking back, as you described, but the club girls were obviously disinterested. Smiling is not a problem for me; as a teacher I have a good ability to project enthusiasm and happiness and give everyone around a genuine smile. Plus I'm just a naturally easy going and friendly guy, and I'm generally in a good mood when I go out.


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Just because I girl looks down, DOES NOT mean she's submissive. It simply means she's shy or tends to withdraw quickly from social interaction. Or she could simply have an anxiety disorder or be slightly agoraphobic. Shy and submissive aren't exactly synonymous with one another. Though, I do recognize a large percent of women do enjoy being led and being submissive, just don't automatically categorize them as such.




a little secret fellas... eye contact is simply a way of a girl inviting you to communicate with her. Nothing more. It doesn't matter where she looks after you stare her down, and it doesn't matter what happens to her body language. You've been given a ticket to talk with her, use it if you want.

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Just because I girl looks down, DOES NOT mean she's submissive. It simply means she's shy or tends to withdraw quickly from social interaction. Or she could simply have an anxiety disorder or be slightly agoraphobic. Shy and submissive aren't exactly synonymous with one another. Though, I do recognize a large percent of women do enjoy being led and being submissive, just don't automatically categorize them as such.




a little secret fellas... eye contact is simply a way of a girl inviting you to communicate with her. Nothing more. It doesn't matter where she looks after you stare her down, and it doesn't matter what happens to her body language. You've been given a ticket to talk with her, use it if you want.
I think you misunderstood my post. I never said looking down meant she was submissive. I also didn't say shy = submissive. Take another look and if it's still unclear, let me know and i'll try to elaborate.

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I'd just like to throw my 2 cents into the ring about this matter as it's something that I'm quite interested in.

I'm a caucasian living in Hong Kong. I get tons of EC from the local females, of any age for that matter. To be honest, it's a lot easier to get EC with locals than it is with westerners. Most western women here just give the quick brush off like what are you looking at. There's hardly any attractive single western women here that aren't on a couple of days holiday.

As for the locals, I've dated some stunners. And I can tell you that when I spoke about this issue, all of them said that they didn't like to make EC with strangers in public. It's a cultural thing. Other girls here are shy and submissive and will look away immediately if you're giving them EC. I've had some experiences of girls holding the EC and you'll get a smile from them which is a key to open them. But at times they are just busy staring at me like I'm some alien from another planet and muttering to their friend/s how different I look with things like 'Wor, big nose/white man/cool shades/clothing etc'.

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And if a girl makes EC with you and smiles at you, walk up to her and go direct. "You can't look at me like that and not say hi." Credit goes to Cajun for that one.
I actually manned up & used that line a few times this weekend, even on a couple girls I initated eye contact with that really didn't even look at me that long. It opened though, & all seemed pretty floored & went over well so IMO even if they weren't they probably backward rationalized that they must have been checking me out & gave me the invitation to open. I felt like it was a strong impression. Got to test it some more though. :D


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