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PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 10:01 pm 
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Sure, but approach without any kind of value and you will be just another loser trying to pick her up right?
Value doesn't come from the woman, it comes from you. Simply by approaching confidently and talking to her like a person instead of putting her on a pedestal like other guys do gives you value.
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Direct game is for people with a strong outside but indirect game is for people with a strong inside... ;)
I don't see where you get this from. Inner game is extremely important in all areas of pickup, aswell as most aspects of what you do in life. If you're happy inside, you are happy outside - pretty simple. You can't pretend to be a confident, outgoing person... you need to have those qualities embodied within yourself. Everything you project outwards to the world comes from your inner beliefs and how you feel about yourself. That's why guys who think they're no good with women never get them.


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Dalziel and Fin make good point.

Direct game is used on a girl that is by herself. Or when her friends or w/e are not paying attention.

Indirect game is used on sets or when other people that she knows are present.


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Being direct is something you do after you extracted the target or when she is alone. Indirect is coming under the radar into sets so you can extract and isolate your target. People get their value from friends, other people, and religious indoctrinations and the target would lose their value if a PUA approached directly and picked them up infront of others.

Also, usually when a girl is with her friends or w/e she tends to be a bigger bitch to maintain her value infront of her friends. After isolation they tend to be more "themselves".

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Interesting...

Thing is that I suck at direct game. I only open sets, never single girls. I would say my inner game is just fine but... Always room for improvement.

Dalziel, you seem to know direct game. What is the secret? What areas do you need to improve most when going from indirect to direct?


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Interesting...

Thing is that I suck at direct game. I only open sets, never single girls. I would say my inner game is just fine but... Always room for improvement.

Dalziel, you seem to know direct game. What is the secret? What areas do you need to improve most when going from indirect to direct?
Just do whatever you're comfortable with. If indirect stuff suits you and it works well for you, there is no reason to change that. I swayed more towards direct game because the stuff I was using didn't really suit my personality. I felt like I was hiding the real me and it was affecting my game, so I decided to study other methods and piece it together in a way that really suited me.

If you wanna try direct stuff, your inner game needs to be uber tight and you need to understand the things women say and do, and why... I see you've read my thread about all that stuff already, so yeah, that stuff. :mrgreen:


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Ok, inspired by the thread about the foreigners...

I was analyzing the charm and/or success these macho AFC beachguys etc etc have.

People who are into going up to a woman starting with you are gorgeous, ciao bella, hey babe, or something along that line do not know about the linearity of the mystery method. So why do they succeed?

As PUAs, we know that in order to show attraction to a woman, we must first get IOIs from her and then go into A3 right...

AFCs trust in their looks, "peacocking" coolness and so on. In order to pick up a woman this way, you must be stunning (more or less) to build attraction during the few seconds between your eye contact and your compliment. If she does not feel attraction before that, you are probably bouncing off the bitch shield.
Is this why there are guys with zero game out there who are still getting laid?

What is your opinions on this topic?

I could tell the only thing you studied was the Mystery Method.

I've been approaching and closing women since i hit puberty. I had much success with calling an unknown woman "Hey baby". BUT, i would greet everyone including male friends with "WASSUP BABY".

This method I used was my natural game back in the day, where I would sustain a sexy smile, hypnotizing eye contact, greet and open at first contact. By complimenting, (depending on sentence structure, tone of voice, and where you are in the conversation) would display you're "intent" and "interest" in a woman which would allow you to close and get you out of the "FRIEND" zone.

7 years later i would come to find out that it was almost the same method as the Juggler used.


It is NOT AFC game.

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