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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 7:09 pm 
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I hate to sound harsh, but the PUA forum is not a pity party. If you want specific advice about moving on then ask your question, but posting this poor me shit is not helping you or anyone. The cure for one-itis is well known. GO FUCK TEN OTHER WOMEN!!!
After reading that I wanted to tell you to go fuck yourself....

and i will: "Go fuck your self!!!!!"

This is for talking to me like that.

Of course you are fucking right and i know it, but i do what the fuck i want, when the fuck i want, and where the fuck i want. If i feel like shit and think that by letting it all out, I WILL ACTUALLY LET IT ALL OUT, and feel better then i don't give a fuck what any will think about it.

And now regarding your actual advice: if your intention was to provide a friendly slap in the face to get me out of the wrong "attitude/behavior/thinking" mode then thank you, i really appreciate it, but sorry man in not THAT EASY, IT TAKES FUCKING TIME.


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Yeh Mr.Fantastic, I'm with cain. What he had was more than any superficial thing you've probly had. There was actually feelings involved! :O And no, the cure for 'oneitis' isnt fuck 10 women.. If you didnt want the 'pity party' you didnt have to click on the thread.. its clear by the title what sort of thread it is.

See rye, i can be negative and still be calm and collected about it...

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You had something special and wonderful. It's great to have that in your life, but that doesn't mean it has to last for all of your life. If you've read The Game, then you'll recall Style talking about a short lived, yet incredibly special relationship between him and a young mother. He felt in love with her, but it only lasted a couple weeks. He will always treasure it though and so will you.

Don't go out and get drunk to get over this. That isn't productive, you don't accomplish anything aside from escaping momentarily. Any productive work that gets done is when you start talking with you friends while you are pissed drunk and let all this stuff out and work through it, so why not do the same thing, but while in a state that you are able to properly understand it all and reach those revelations without having them slip away in the fog the next morning.

I myself am going through some heavy stuff right now and I felt like I was going to fall apart unless I let it out, so I made a lengthy post in my journal on here and expressed the powerful emotions that I felt. It isn't about wanting pity, it is about trying to express it, work through it with the support of other people that can connect to it and understand, while offering some perspective.

The thing that seperates an AFC from a PUA, is our ability to deal with things in a healthy manner. We don't get needy when we feel unappreciated, we express it to her in a way that she realises and shows that she does appreciate. We don't drown our sorrow, we confront it and overcome it. This causes us to grow and become stronger, just like working your muscles causes them to grow and become stronger, even though there are a lot of ways to make your body look good without actually gaining anything from it, such as padding.

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I wrote this awhile back for myself and a friend , it may help in a few areas?..

How my detachment is loving you&others

1. Those I care for might learn to look within, and trust themselves for self-direction, including when and how to ask for help.

If I refrain from trying to manage their problematic situation, the people, I care about may learn something about thinking for themselves, problem solving, and when and how to ask for help. They might learn to better listen to their feelings and intuitions, to heed those little voices we all wish we listened-to more. They might learn to better recognize when they want help and how to request it in ways that leave them feeling good rather than embarrassed or ashamed. In short, letting them manage their own affairs gives them the opportunity to draw on their own inner resources, instead of mine, and from this direct experience of their abilities, no matter how groping or uncertain, they can build competence and may thereby increase their confidence. I believe this is the No. I and most natural avenue leading to increased self-esteem.

2. They might learn more about cause and effect.

My not intervening allows others to have an uninterrupted experience of the cause and effect relationship between their actions and the natural consequences of those actions. In this way, they have a direct encounter with their personal power to contribute to their own pleasure or pain. Allowing people to have appropriate sized, real problems, and real responsibility for working out their solutions, seem to greatly facilitate this learning.

3. They might experience the motivation to continue on or change.

Pleasurable and painful experiences often provide us the motivation to repeat what brought satisfaction and change what didn't. We all use this kind of emotional energy to move us forward in life. These motivating energies arise naturally from within and feel much better to respond to than the attempts by others to motivate us through guilt, fear and other forms of coercion.

4. Self discovery and enjoyment might occur. If I grant others the freedom to think, feel, value, perceive, etc. as they wish, and they relax because they feel respected and safe, they might discover many new things about themselves. They might discover what they really like, feel or think. They might have moments of creative insight that inspire, excite and encourage them. They might invent new, more satisfying dreams for their lives than ever would have appeared under the pressure of my controlling presence.

Whenever I find myself struggling with the impulse to step in and begin trying to manage another life, or solve his or her problems, I find it helpful to review the four points just presented. They strongly motivate me to remain lovingly detached.

Now, how about the ways loving detachment benefits me?

How detachment is loving for me

1. I am relieved of the strain of attempting the impossible.

By carefully reviewing my experiences of trying to control other people's physical behavior, sobriety, health, learning, emotions and opinions, I have come to one conclusion. The only thing I might be able to control is a person's physical behavior that requires that I possess enough physical strength and am willing to use it. If I accept my powerlessness to control the other things, the inner lives and wills of others, then I relieve myself of the stress and strain of attempting the impossible. This is a primary way for me to create more serenity in my life. In fact, if I practice this process deeply enough, I sometimes reach the point where I form no opinion about what another should do. This is a truly liberated and refreshing moment for us both.

2. What other people)think of me can become none of my business.

If I am powerless to control the thoughts, perceptions, values or emotions of another, then I can liberate myself by accepting that their opinions of me are none of my business. Accepting this as fact, I not only free myself, but the other person as well, because I cease my attempts to control their inner workings.

3. My attention and energy are freed to focus on improving my own life.

I have plenty of problem areas in my own life. Obsessing about another life can help me avoid the pain within mine. But the time and energy I spend obsessing about another life I don't spend on mine, and if I do this enough, my life stays at its current level of unmanageability or gets worse. Loving detachment gives me the opportunity to invest my energies in my life.

4. I can express my love or caring in ways that bring me joy and satisfaction.

When someone I care for is struggling with a problem, or feeling some kind of pain, I usually want to be supportive or helpful. But, I want to offer the kind of help that would bring me joy to offer and them joy to receive. One of the ways that I have developed a picture of what this help could look like is to recall the times when caring friends or others have offered me assistance in ways that I enjoyed. What did they do? While showing no sign that they felt responsible for solving my problems, they offered me four things:

* Their compassionate, empathic understanding of how I perceived and fell about my situation.

* Their experiences and learning from similar situations for my consideration.

* Their genuine optimism about my abilities to work through my struggles.

* Their willingness to help, on my terms, in ways that were congruent with their needs. To be offered understanding, companionship, encouragement and assistance, but not interference, is the most satisfying help I have known. Offering this to others increases both the joys in my life and my self-esteem.

Looking at the eight ways that I see detachment as being loving, I conclude that the most basic reason for practicing it is to provide an opportunity for people's lives to be improved. The lives of those I love may be improved because I respect their powers of self-care enough to let them have a chance to reap the potential benefits of struggling, learning and succeeding on their own. My life is improved because I avoid unnecessary distress, retain energy I might have wasted, and offer caring and support in ways that bring me joy. In these ways loving detachment plays a powerful and rewarding role in helping me to both live and let live.
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