Getting blown out isn't a bad thing. It doesn't cost you money, cause physical harm, there's nothing at risk once you set aside your ego.

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They've done studies, brain scans and stuff like that, and I think they've established that the impact rejection has on a guy's physiology is actual pain he's feeling; just like taking a hammer to the tip of your index finger.

Your brain knows no difference. So yeah, being blown out is a bad thing.

I've never met a guy who actually cares enough to go out regularly to meet women, gets rejected all the time and "has no ego" or has "let go of it" in the Tolle sense.

If a reasonable guy's taking the time to get dressed right, groom himself right, and go out of his way to go out, maybe having to shift to as many as 10 venues in a night, You don't think he's gonna be like "this fuckin sucks shit!" When girls say to him "ummm, no thanks, seeya!"

Get real

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This entire statement explains why you'll continue to have problems. We all get rejected. The difference is how you handle rejection. If you let it get to you, you'll guarantee yourself further rejection. If you brush it off and stay positive, you'll get laid. It's as simple as that.

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[/quote]This entire statement explains why you'll continue to have problems. We all get rejected. The difference is how you handle rejection. If you let it get to you, you'll guarantee yourself further rejection. If you brush it off and stay positive, you'll get laid. It's as simple as that.[/quote]

I don't think you got at all what I was trying to say. You haven't contributed to this thread except this one 1st time. Anyone can make a drive-by "you're not listening!" post. I know I have, when it's clear someone's asking for advice, then we find out what they're doing and they're totally dismissing and working against all of the advice given, even shooting down every pointer and tip.

Yeah, that's not what's going on here. I've accepted a lot of the advice given and have some direction on what I need to work on and avoid.

All I'm saying is going out in and of itself is an investment, and if the night goes south of never even shapes up, it's perfectly reasonable to be peeved. I've never shrugged and walked off from a rejection and gotten laid from that. Or even "well, I hope you have a great night anyway!"

But I'm not looking for ass, I'm looking for a girl (same physical pref.'s apply) who I can connect with.

In short, I'm on here for the reason most guys are, to get a girlfriend. If you can find attraction in a target rich environment like a bar, well, that's grear, and that's why guys are going to them.

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The PUA industry told you, you need to spam approach thousands of women and be rejected by nearly all of them in order to get laid a handful of times.

A lot of guys took that to heart and did exactly that. Because they eventually learned how to handle things better, they now have a much higher success rate. They then think everyone needs to have a 1000:1 approach to lay ratio at the outset because that's "normal". It's only normal if you're following bad process. It's why I'm glad I already knew what I was doing when I found this stuff. So much of it is total garbage that just sets you back.

Work smart, not hard is a foreign concept inside most of the community.

Have you ever read anything from 60YOC or Chase Amante?

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I've heard of 60YOC but not Chase Amante. I thought 60 years is a collection of products/author. Are you referring to a specific book?

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Get good at dancing. Once you have that down, everything else is easy.

Google "PUA going solo". There's a shit ton of articles.

Sort of. I suggest reading any one of 60YearsOfChallenge's books. Doesn't really matter which one. They're all the same book, with slightly different text. Read one, and you've basically read them all. 60 gets to the heart of seduction. Some guys get really good at making women like them, but don't get very good at turning them on or screening for women who are sexually available. And that is ultimately the most important skill. 60 has the most direct product I have seen for this, that I mostly agree with.

Chase Amante's Girl's Chase is the single best book I have ever read on seduction, hands down. He has a free blog, which I would suggest you check out.

Each of the books are like $20-30(I forget). If that's more than you're up for, at least check out Chase's blog. My favorite cheap book is Justin I.P.'s Introverted Seduction. It's good for really getting a total overview of what it takes to successfully have very good female options. It's only failing is that it doesn't get deep into any single topic.

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Your best bet is to go to big clubs solo. You can just stalk around and pull girls..... you might even find some on their own... or that have lost their friends, etc.

If you go to bars alone (or anywhere) open as soon as you walk in the venue, literally the first set you see. This is very helpful. For some reason, any set will open well if you open immediately and it starts to warm you up.

Aside from that going out alone is similar to going out with friends.

I have had the 'where are your friends?' thing come up. My experiences are these:

- If you look very good and act cool, it doesn't really matter
- The type of venue determines the response you get to an extent
- For some girls it can creep them out
- Other girls don't give a fuck and are happy for you to join them

I have been going out alone for more than 10 years, i personally love it, i explain the advantages and disadvantages in my experience here:

http://www.theskillsmethod.com/sarging- ... dvantages/

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Man do I second that (thanks Versalis for the tip), this article eg is like a Christmas present for introverts

http://www.girlschase.com/content/react ... journeyman

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Skills, I read your article a while back, and yes, it does provide some major value in that it gives a lot of guys the foundational common-sense truth about going out alone that too many guys simply don't have.

What I'm talking about is a whole different deal.

I'm being told, "Place / City doesn't matter", but I have yet to meet one credible member of this forum who can speak at length about DC.

Many will say, "From what I remember of my time there 10 years go..."

or, "When I visited, etc etc"

But to my knowledge, there is NOBODY established in this community/forum who could tell anyone d**k about DC.

Striking out walking up to guys socially about playing shuffle board or pool.

Striking out with every girl they approach and getting the backs turned.

Shaking his head and realizing everyone's out in groups of no less than 5??!

This is a unique situation, and while there are some good general pointers in this thread, (eg. "stay out of bars for now"), I think the going out alone thing haunts most PUA wannabe's more than anything else.

Some cities may be tougher or easier than DC.

I just think the guy who has no other options, and HAS to go out alone is being truly underserved by this community.

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How have things been for you in Baltimore? It's like an hour away, so I assume you've been out at clubs there.

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I do hear that Baltimore is more of a casual/blue collar city where people are less pretentious. Evening drives up are an hour, so drinking is out. The honest truth is I havent tried it, but should.

By the way, something I forgot to mention about the DC thing, I came across someone on another forum who said "I've never sarged in DC but from what I hear (again, same deal, can't say sh*t for his own experiences) that views are very mixed in that city. It's either this awesome, amazing place where you can really clean up, or it's the hardest fucking town you've ever set foot in, aside from LA.

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