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PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 3:35 am 
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I think some making negative comments about your original post missed some words like "for instance" in your first paragraph and words like "might" and "may" in you last paragraph. Words like that are supposed draw less critical responses.

I took the WWI example as just one example like you could have replaced it with The American Civil War or WWII, and it would still be true. You could also replace it with Bobski's marriage, that looked a lot better at the start too. If I'm going to take issue with something in the first paragraph it would be the soccer comments. But I would just add to it saying (because it is awesome) and (because most Americans didn't grow up with it).

I can't agree with your comment "like pussy is the sweetest joy" If pussy isn't please tell me what is!

You lost me a little on the women want the prize stuff. I think they want both, they want the prize and they want to be prized. Some want the prize more, some want to be prized more.

Re; "Most women aren't used to men kissing their ass...." Sadly that is not as true as it used to be. But I get what your saying, they didn't grow up having their asses kissed by their fathers and brothers. It's really changed a lot just in my lifetime. When I was young the women did all the cooking then did all the cleanup while the men played cards and drank beer. It's not that way anymore.

But mostly I think you were trying to say don't be too much of a nice guy, that isn't what most of them want. I can't disagree with that. I see a big difference between a nice guy and a good guy. I'm not sure all of those slamming your post do. I'd consider myself a good guy but not necessarily a nice guy. The way I differentiate the two is; a nice guy will open your car door and may or my not cheat on you. A good guy may or may not open your car door but will not cheat on you.
Thanks for your response.

I see a good guy as having integrity, devotion to a principle. I see a nice guy as just being pleasant to be around. I believe the more value a woman sees in you the more she is willing to give and put up with to get you. You can be so valuable that kindness doesn't even matter. Most guys even like being around a guy they think is cool. Jocks are jerks yet they still are so popular. Why? Value.

If you have a passion for something then that is better than pussy. A hobby you're really into for instance.

World War I really stands out as an example of romanticism on its own. There were actually celebrations in the streets and joyous parades for the start of World War I. I can think of no other War in the past 300 hundred years where this happened. People literally where enthusiastic about war. All Quiet on The Western Front deals with this where the protagonist is urged to enlist by his teacher in school.

The Civil War was brought on by slavery. World War 2 was brought on by Hitler. No other countries really wanted War besides Germany and Japan. Yeah there is Italy, but Germany was crazy about this shit and this was because the country was crippled by WW1 and was hungry for revenge and expansion. However, if you look at the French's early surrender that is because they didn't want war any more like in WW1. Also, if you look at Chamberlain's policy of appeasement that is because Britain did not want war either. However, these cuntried were enthusiastic before WW1.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 8:27 am 
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In the hunter and gatherer days woman protected themselves in the same manner they do today going to the bathroom with numbers. Again go read some evolutionary theory. Men would disappear for days or sometimes weeks for a hunt. Most of the time hunting is done together... so only the elderly, young, or weak were left behind to protect a little.

It's important you realize while technology has pressed forward our evolutionary design hasn't moved forward at near the speed... in other words it applies immensely to our hard wiring and animal like behaviors such as sex and courtship... or communication... or anything since humans are animals.
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I find you to be really rude by the way.
I find it rude when a poster lies to other readers.

I find it rude when a poster says I'm being insecure when I point out ignorant uneducated remarks.

I find it rude when I provide an element for a debate (such as our previous one) and it is ignored for the sake of ignorance.

Deception around this board is inevitable but lying about history is unacceptable.

Enough of your thoughts dude... go learn something... I'm going to be rude to a liar... that is just how it is if you were my family it would be no different.

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You call me a liar? You call me uneducated? You call me Ignorant? Because I disagree with you? You haven't said anything convincing so I don't believe you. You keep saying I'm wrong but you provide no convincing basis.

I think your Evolutionary theory is irrelevant and outdated (you have not made an argument for why it isn't by the way). I don't want to read it and you haven't given me a reason to want to read it. However, you keep talking about it as if it is Gospel.

The things I say you can prove with common sense and you can apply them to your life.You think you are right and I am wrong. You think you know. I am not telling anyone they are wrong. I am not ridiculing anyone that has not ridiculed me. I am just making an argument for what I believe given my personal experience. You sound like a guy that does not trust his personal experience.

These are my points. Accept or Rebut them, but stop the name calling because that is childish

1.) Women don't like feminine men. Men that are emotional and inconsistent, timid, and who look for sympathy like mommas boys. If you are that way well tough luck.

2.) Habits and attitudes from your parents are passed on to you. A woman's parents thought and behaved as if men should be manly so subconsciously women feel the same way without even realizing.

3.) Because it makes money society encourages men to put women on a pedestal based upon the appearance of women. This is contrary to how women want to be treated subconsiously.

4.) I never said treat women as inferior. Women just don't like the idea of being superior and wearing "the pants in the relationship."

5.) Traditionally men did not put women on a pedestals. Men were valued more highly than women. This explains men having multiple wives. This explains the female abortions in other cultures. This explains women being denied power and high paying positions.

6.) The purpose of this post is for guys to have manly qualities like emotional consistency, self-confidence, decisiveness, maintaining a strong bearing and not looking for sympathy, and self-discipline when it comes to dealing with women.
Yes I call someone who lies a liar... just like my cousin yesterday... just like I've said to my Uncle... Just like I said to my sister. As I said I treated you no different then family.

Yeah you are uneducated however I said your remarks are uneducated... you say stupid shit which shows a lack of education. Not difficult to understand how I drew that conclusion.

What how did me bringing up hunter and gatherer where I explain women traditionally have been more valuable to society based off of that era?

1. As ovulation studies have proven with the exception of the 2 days during ovulation where hormone spikes create a strong libido they appreciate a more feminine man the rest of their cycle. They don't want a girl you are correct on that however studies show a woman prefers men with more feminine faces most of their cycle.

2. Habits and behaviors are also genetic and hardwired. This goes again back to what? OH YEAH EVOLUTIONARY THEORY. Personalities and behaviors have shown to be both a part of Nature and nurture not either/or.

3. Society doesn't place women on a pedestal as previously pointed out... Yes women are sexy... but us showing women off as sexy is more degrading to women in most people's opinion. This is merely your perspective mentioning 40 year old virgin and American Pie where both movies proved it easier to get laid then each of them made it shows nothing.

4. You referred to all of this as putting women in an inferior role. You said we are more valued so what does this make women? LESS VALUED which means what? They are in the inferior role. Now you're back tracked with your awful argument.

5. Traditionally men and women had 2 year relationships until a child was old enough to be able to eat and walk on his own. That is tradition as proven during the hunter gatherer era. This is a fucking huge point you keep ignoring. Traditionally women chose the men. Female abortion in only the Chinese culture buddy.... what's with the plural? So if they are forced into an inferior role with society... how is this equal? How is it they are put on a pedestal... It's like you have no clue what the fuck you said.

6. Then why not write that.... No disagreement on this but you saying all that other bull shit that is untrue doesn't show anything but ignorance and honestly reflects very poorly on you. You certainly didn't display your point.

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Yes I call someone who lies a liar... just like my cousin yesterday... just like I've said to my Uncle... Just like I said to my sister. As I said I treated you no different then family.

Yeah you are uneducated however I said your remarks are uneducated... you say stupid shit which shows a lack of education. Not difficult to understand how I drew that conclusion.

What how did me bringing up hunter and gatherer where I explain women traditionally have been more valuable to society based off of that era?

1. As ovulation studies have proven with the exception of the 2 days during ovulation where hormone spikes create a strong libido they appreciate a more feminine man the rest of their cycle. They don't want a girl you are correct on that however studies show a woman prefers men with more feminine faces most of their cycle.

2. Habits and behaviors are also genetic and hardwired. This goes again back to what? OH YEAH EVOLUTIONARY THEORY. Personalities and behaviors have shown to be both a part of Nature and nurture not either/or.

3. Society doesn't place women on a pedestal as previously pointed out... Yes women are sexy... but us showing women off as sexy is more degrading to women in most people's opinion. This is merely your perspective mentioning 40 year old virgin and American Pie where both movies proved it easier to get laid then each of them made it shows nothing.

4. You referred to all of this as putting women in an inferior role. You said we are more valued so what does this make women? LESS VALUED which means what? They are in the inferior role. Now you're back tracked with your awful argument.

5. Traditionally men and women had 2 year relationships until a child was old enough to be able to eat and walk on his own. That is tradition as proven during the hunter gatherer era. This is a fucking huge point you keep ignoring. Traditionally women chose the men. Female abortion in only the Chinese culture buddy.... what's with the plural? So if they are forced into an inferior role with society... how is this equal? How is it they are put on a pedestal... It's like you have no clue what the fuck you said.

6. Then why not write that.... No disagreement on this but you saying all that other bull shit that is untrue doesn't show anything but ignorance and honestly reflects very poorly on you. You certainly didn't display your point.

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You're a fool. You have convinced yourself that you're opinion is objective truth. Which is fine, but you can't go around calling people liars and uneducated because they disagree with you. That's arrogant. Thats the equivalent of a Hindu calling a Buddist or Muslim a liar.

1. These studies sound like bullshit. You don't even define what feminine characteristics are.

2.) People take on the habits and attitudes of their friends and family. They are also passed on. You have not disproved this.

3.)Some people think sex degrades women. Thats a matter of opinion. What we do know is sex with women is valued very highly in the media and society. American Pie and 40 year old virgin was all about trying to have sex. Society values sex with women very highly and that is putting pussy on a pedestal. Men value sex with women more than they value themselves.

4.) I never said treat women as inferior. I did say traditionally men have been valued more highly than women. You jump to conclusions.

5.) Women are on a pedestal because men value sex with women more than they value themselves these days. I know exactly what I said. Also, these female abortions happen in China,India, Pakistan, Caucasus,South Korea, Taiwan. There's your plural. Yes, you have to allow a female to chose you, but that's makes the man valuable because you aren't the one trying to chase and convince and persuade a woman to like you.

6.) All the other things I said were true and you have not disproved them.


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Yes I call someone who lies a liar... just like my cousin yesterday... just like I've said to my Uncle... Just like I said to my sister. As I said I treated you no different then family.

Yeah you are uneducated however I said your remarks are uneducated... you say stupid shit which shows a lack of education. Not difficult to understand how I drew that conclusion.

What how did me bringing up hunter and gatherer where I explain women traditionally have been more valuable to society based off of that era?

1. As ovulation studies have proven with the exception of the 2 days during ovulation where hormone spikes create a strong libido they appreciate a more feminine man the rest of their cycle. They don't want a girl you are correct on that however studies show a woman prefers men with more feminine faces most of their cycle.

2. Habits and behaviors are also genetic and hardwired. This goes again back to what? OH YEAH EVOLUTIONARY THEORY. Personalities and behaviors have shown to be both a part of Nature and nurture not either/or.

3. Society doesn't place women on a pedestal as previously pointed out... Yes women are sexy... but us showing women off as sexy is more degrading to women in most people's opinion. This is merely your perspective mentioning 40 year old virgin and American Pie where both movies proved it easier to get laid then each of them made it shows nothing.

4. You referred to all of this as putting women in an inferior role. You said we are more valued so what does this make women? LESS VALUED which means what? They are in the inferior role. Now you're back tracked with your awful argument.

5. Traditionally men and women had 2 year relationships until a child was old enough to be able to eat and walk on his own. That is tradition as proven during the hunter gatherer era. This is a fucking huge point you keep ignoring. Traditionally women chose the men. Female abortion in only the Chinese culture buddy.... what's with the plural? So if they are forced into an inferior role with society... how is this equal? How is it they are put on a pedestal... It's like you have no clue what the fuck you said.

6. Then why not write that.... No disagreement on this but you saying all that other bull shit that is untrue doesn't show anything but ignorance and honestly reflects very poorly on you. You certainly didn't display your point.

Peace and Love,

Vic
You're a fool. You have convinced yourself that you're opinion is objective truth. Which is fine, but you can't go around calling people liars and uneducated because they disagree with you. That's arrogant. Thats the equivalent of a Hindu calling a Buddist or Muslim a liar.

1. These studies sound like bullshit. You don't even define what feminine characteristics are.

2.) People take on the habits and attitudes of their friends and family. They are also passed on. You have not disproved this.

3.)Some people think sex degrades women. Thats a matter of opinion. What we do know is sex with women is valued very highly in the media and society. American Pie and 40 year old virgin was all about trying to have sex. Society values sex with women very highly and that is putting pussy on a pedestal. Men value sex with women more than they value themselves.

4.) I never said treat women as inferior. I did say traditionally men have been valued more highly than women. You jump to conclusions.

5.) Women are on a pedestal because men value sex with women more than they value themselves these days. I know exactly what I said. Also, these female abortions happen in China,India, Pakistan, Caucasus,South Korea, Taiwan. There's your plural. Yes, you have to allow a female to chose you, but that's makes the man valuable because you aren't the one trying to chase and convince and persuade a woman to like you.

6.) All the other things I said were true and you have not disproved them.
Yada yada yada.... (Good call on retarded thought on only chinese culture.)

You make some good points... You miss my good points.

Peace and Love,

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