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PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2013 8:20 pm 
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This is what I do...

Before I even go into the bar (as I am walking from my car) find a group of 2 or 3 girls and say "Hey guys, I'm not from around here but I wanted to check out some of the bars/clubs in the area. Cool if I tag along with you all until we get inside? I'll buy you your first round of drinks for being so friendly." (most girls don't mind having a guy with them because it keeps other guys from hitting on them. Girls don't go out to get hit on... They go out to have a good time. Just be friendly with these girls. It's AFC as fuck but they aren't your target.)

Now you have created a scenario for yourself where you are seen walking into the venue with 3 girls and have already created a set you can return to and backwards merge with or if you happen to not find a set to approach (you are there with "friends" now)

Buy them their first round of drinks and hang out for a bit just keeping friendly, fun conversation and you will notice the IOIs start to FLY at you due to preselection and social proof...

Or...

When you first get to the bar... Ask to speak to a manager. Tell him you are looking to throw a party sometime soon (make some bullshit up... Sell it. Tons of people with money. Lots of girls. Whatever you wanna say...) and ask him for a tour of the place. Buy him and yourself a beer... Next thing you know... You are now seen walking around the bar/club with a manager. People have no idea what is being said or what you are walking with the manager for... They can only make assumptions based on what they see. You will be seen as a high value guy.

Both work very well for getting IOIs from all over the place and truly becoming "THE MAN" in the room.


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PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2013 8:28 pm 
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paramount.. you're clearly posting way to much on this forum. It's obvious that you're cumming inside your head, and that's it.

These posts give you some kind of high and you're like "Yes I'm going to do it" blablabla and you never do... then you make a new thread.

Shut up and man up bro. Da fuck is wrong with you?

You think Amita Bachan got where he is by being a fucking lame posting online?

You think his kid fucked Aishwaria by being some lame constantly posting online over and over again not taking action.

C'mon bro, just shut up and man up.
You really need to pipe the fuck down.

This is a help forum... not a dick measuring contest. Negativity isn't necessary.

Now go put your nose on the wall and watch wrestling.


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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2013 10:18 am 
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paramount.. you're clearly posting way to much on this forum. It's obvious that you're cumming inside your head, and that's it.

These posts give you some kind of high and you're like "Yes I'm going to do it" blablabla and you never do... then you make a new thread.

Shut up and man up bro. Da fuck is wrong with you?

You think Amita Bachan got where he is by being a fucking lame posting online?

You think his kid fucked Aishwaria by being some lame constantly posting online over and over again not taking action.

C'mon bro, just shut up and man up.
You really need to pipe the fuck down.

This is a help forum... not a dick measuring contest. Negativity isn't necessary.

Now go put your nose on the wall and watch wrestling.
This coming from one of the most quarrelsome and disrespectful members to roam the forums. :roll:


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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2013 11:01 am 
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Before shit kicks off again (which it invariably seems to do in paramount's threads - and that's not always Paramount's fault!), I think flex may have a point. It's just that his usual brash and rather aggressive persona comes across slightly more insulting and meat-head affected than it needs to. I do think that you have asked a lot of these questions before paramount, and have gotten fairly similar answers. How do you get social proof? You've had a thread specifically about getting social life/proof in college where you got plenty of ideas about building up your social circle. And in the 'how bad is life after college' thread you also got some advice on social life/social proof both in and out of college from various posters on the board.

Now whilst I agree with majikal that it is a help forum and you are of course entitled to ask for help whenever you want, I do feel that had flex portrayed his opinion in slightly more prosaic language, it would probably have been the most helpful post for you to take notice of.

It seems to me that you are asking questions, getting answers, and then either failing to act upon those answers, or you are just waiting for the "right" and "easy" answer. It's as though you're waiting for an answer which will get you instant results with no hard work, where you won't have to put yourself out there. It's as though you see answers which require hard work and which may leave you open to some sort of rejection and you ignore them. It's as though you're more scared of the rejection and hard work than you are motivated to improve yourself.

Like I've said before, sometimes you need to grab hold of your balls nice and tight and just take the jump. Go and try some of the stuff you're being advised about on here. If it works then great, you won't need to post so many question threads because you'll have sorted your problems. If they don't work, then you might have had to suffer a little bit of rejection. Get over it, come back, let us know what you've tried, and we can try and see why it went wrong for you.

You're doing it the wrong way. Improving your game/pick up should be in this order; 1) theory to give you ideas of how to improve. 2) Lots of field testing of those theories. 3) Theory to fine tune any problems you had during field testing. 4) Field test the fine tuning. 5) Repeat stages 3 and 4 ad infinitum.

You seem to be doing 1) theory to give you ideas of how to improve. 2) Not a lot.

Just take some of the ideas off here and actually do them. Asking similar questions, or even completely different questions, over and over isn't going to help you. The only way you get anywhere is through actual real life practice.


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paramount.. you're clearly posting way to much on this forum. It's obvious that you're cumming inside your head, and that's it.

These posts give you some kind of high and you're like "Yes I'm going to do it" blablabla and you never do... then you make a new thread.

Shut up and man up bro. Da fuck is wrong with you?

You think Amita Bachan got where he is by being a fucking lame posting online?

You think his kid fucked Aishwaria by being some lame constantly posting online over and over again not taking action.

C'mon bro, just shut up and man up.
You really need to pipe the fuck down.

This is a help forum... not a dick measuring contest. Negativity isn't necessary.

Now go put your nose on the wall and watch wrestling.
This coming from one of the most quarrelsome and disrespectful members to roam the forums. :roll:
I have nothing but respect for him, you really need to leave my threads. Now time to get back on topic.

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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 2:47 am 
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This is what I do...

Before I even go into the bar (as I am walking from my car) find a group of 2 or 3 girls and say "Hey guys, I'm not from around here but I wanted to check out some of the bars/clubs in the area. Cool if I tag along with you all until we get inside? I'll buy you your first round of drinks for being so friendly." (most girls don't mind having a guy with them because it keeps other guys from hitting on them. Girls don't go out to get hit on... They go out to have a good time. Just be friendly with these girls. It's AFC as fuck but they aren't your target.)

Now you have created a scenario for yourself where you are seen walking into the venue with 3 girls and have already created a set you can return to and backwards merge with or if you happen to not find a set to approach (you are there with "friends" now)

Buy them their first round of drinks and hang out for a bit just keeping friendly, fun conversation and you will notice the IOIs start to FLY at you due to preselection and social proof...

Or...

When you first get to the bar... Ask to speak to a manager. Tell him you are looking to throw a party sometime soon (make some bullshit up... Sell it. Tons of people with money. Lots of girls. Whatever you wanna say...) and ask him for a tour of the place. Buy him and yourself a beer... Next thing you know... You are now seen walking around the bar/club with a manager. People have no idea what is being said or what you are walking with the manager for... They can only make assumptions based on what they see. You will be seen as a high value guy.

Both work very well for getting IOIs from all over the place and truly becoming "THE MAN" in the room.
Well what is the long term effect when the manager finds out that you have actually BSed him about the party?

What do you do in that situation?

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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 2:38 pm 
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This is what I do...

Before I even go into the bar (as I am walking from my car) find a group of 2 or 3 girls and say "Hey guys, I'm not from around here but I wanted to check out some of the bars/clubs in the area. Cool if I tag along with you all until we get inside? I'll buy you your first round of drinks for being so friendly." (most girls don't mind having a guy with them because it keeps other guys from hitting on them. Girls don't go out to get hit on... They go out to have a good time. Just be friendly with these girls. It's AFC as fuck but they aren't your target.)

Now you have created a scenario for yourself where you are seen walking into the venue with 3 girls and have already created a set you can return to and backwards merge with or if you happen to not find a set to approach (you are there with "friends" now)

Buy them their first round of drinks and hang out for a bit just keeping friendly, fun conversation and you will notice the IOIs start to FLY at you due to preselection and social proof...

Or...

When you first get to the bar... Ask to speak to a manager. Tell him you are looking to throw a party sometime soon (make some bullshit up... Sell it. Tons of people with money. Lots of girls. Whatever you wanna say...) and ask him for a tour of the place. Buy him and yourself a beer... Next thing you know... You are now seen walking around the bar/club with a manager. People have no idea what is being said or what you are walking with the manager for... They can only make assumptions based on what they see. You will be seen as a high value guy.

Both work very well for getting IOIs from all over the place and truly becoming "THE MAN" in the room.
Well what is the long term effect when the manager finds out that you have actually BSed him about the party?

What do you do in that situation?
It doesn't matter. The likely hood that a manager would remember your party is slim to none. If anything, you go to a different fuckin bar. You are over thinking things lol


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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 4:50 pm 
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thanks, going to try this soon

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PostPosted: Sat May 18, 2013 5:14 am 
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This coming from one of the most quarrelsome and disrespectful members to roam the forums. :roll:
I have nothing but respect for him, you really need to leave my threads. Now time to get back on topic.
You have no respect for him? You really need to leave my threads? Were you referring to me or him? At any rate, shit won't work for you because you keep asking for advice and not implementing shit. Lack of implementation always leads to failure. How about you stop asking questions, pick some advice, and stick with it. Then maybe, just maybe, you'll see some results.


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PostPosted: Sat May 18, 2013 7:26 am 
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This is what I do...

Before I even go into the bar (as I am walking from my car) find a group of 2 or 3 girls and say "Hey guys, I'm not from around here but I wanted to check out some of the bars/clubs in the area. Cool if I tag along with you all until we get inside? I'll buy you your first round of drinks for being so friendly." (most girls don't mind having a guy with them because it keeps other guys from hitting on them. Girls don't go out to get hit on... They go out to have a good time. Just be friendly with these girls. It's AFC as fuck but they aren't your target.)

Now you have created a scenario for yourself where you are seen walking into the venue with 3 girls and have already created a set you can return to and backwards merge with or if you happen to not find a set to approach (you are there with "friends" now)

Buy them their first round of drinks and hang out for a bit just keeping friendly, fun conversation and you will notice the IOIs start to FLY at you due to preselection and social proof...

Or...

When you first get to the bar... Ask to speak to a manager. Tell him you are looking to throw a party sometime soon (make some bullshit up... Sell it. Tons of people with money. Lots of girls. Whatever you wanna say...) and ask him for a tour of the place. Buy him and yourself a beer... Next thing you know... You are now seen walking around the bar/club with a manager. People have no idea what is being said or what you are walking with the manager for... They can only make assumptions based on what they see. You will be seen as a high value guy.

Both work very well for getting IOIs from all over the place and truly becoming "THE MAN" in the room.
Good advice! im going to try that sometime


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