Don't over think your opener. It's important to open but it is the least important part of the pick-up.

-Open Immediately. Observe the 3 second rule.
-Have no other option but to open. Don't under estimate the power of simply opening.
-Open over your shoulder and at an angle. Showing your chest to someone immediately shows that you are seeking rapport.
-At a night club, your value is automatically lowered because you are opening. Women assume that a man who is approaching them is hitting on her.
-Calibrate after you open, not before.
-Put yourself into a talkative state before you open. Imagine yourself acting the way you want to act.
-Be loud. Make it socially awkward for people NOT to pay attention to you. Talk from your chest.
-Don't ask to ask a question. Always say "Hey guys!" Never say "Excuse me." or "Hey girls"
-Smile when you open. Emotions are contagious. If you are smiling, the set will be smiling too and more receptive to you. Practice your smile in the mirror. Don't look creepy.
-Make PIERCING eye contact. Don't be afraid.
-Don't EVER lean into a set. Once you lean in, you're out.
-Keep your feet in and your body out.
-Don't do anything that could be mistaken for hitting on her.


Attraction does not start when you open. Attraction starts once you reach the social hook point and the group wants you to stay.

Understanding proximity will help you approach without feeling anxiety. Proximity has to do with our subconscious desire to align with someone. As humans, when we are naturally attracted to someone, we will position ourselves near that person.

The women with her back to you is the one that wants you. You can open her and she will be receptive to you.
Take the initiative and don't was an opportunity you get to open. If she wants to communicate something to you you have to give her the opportunity to.
If a woman keeps making eye contact with you, she wants you to open her.
You can also steal an adjacent set by paying attention to proximity and the buying temperature that was raised by someone else (another guy) in the adjacent set. If you hear the girls giggling or laughing in a set next to you, open. Steal the set.

Openers are simply shortened stories that are non-threatening and interesting enough to get the attention of a group. Don't stay on an opener for too long. Don't circle a group either and come off as a predator. Make sure you are able to transition from the opener, otherwise it will come off as you trying to pick her up. Good transitions will come with better conversation skills.

Opinion Openers-

This is my favorite type of opener. It offers little to no chance of rejection as well as an easy ability to transition into a normal conversation.

Subjects for Opinion Openers

-Dating
-Gender Differences
-Friendships
-Music and Pop Culture

Examples of Opinion Openers-

Jealous ex- girlfriend--- Who lies more?--- What do you think about tattoos on women?--- What do you think about girls who get implants?--- Which cologne do you like better? (used at the fragrance counter at the mall)--- What's your second favorite drink?--- Spells opener

-Using a false time constraint, rooting, and having the attention of the group are key to a successful opinion opener. Don't make your opinion opener sound like you are taking a survey.

Situational Openers-

-It is very difficult to come up with an original situational opener that has not been heard yet or will not sound "tacky" like you are trying to pick the girl up. Don't get caught using a pick up line.

-Must be spontaneous. Don't hesitate with a situational opener.

No Opener-

Go directly into a story.
Best used in a very social environment when you are already in a talkative state and have demonstrated pre-selection.
Direct Opener-

Forces a woman to determine in a very short amount of time, whether or not she wants to get to know you.
Body language and tonality must be PERFECT for a direct opener to work.

Screening Opener-


-Cold reading
-Assume interest and move directly into qualifying.
-Best used when you are receiving IOIs before you open the set.

-Functional Opener-

-Related to something in the surroundings (Like asking for directions)
-Very difficult to transition from but doesn't give her a chance to say no.
-Mostly used during day game.

People go out in groups. If you are out by yourself, get into a group of girls within the first 10-20 minutes. Talk to guys if you have to but don't be seen alone. If you approach a group immediately and lock yourself in, you can create the image that you are now with that group.

-Girls, especially beautiful ones, will be with her friends when she is out. Engage the whole group and win the group over, not just the girl.
-Win her friends over. It is better to be known as "that cool guy" instead of "the creep you were talking to in the corner" on the way home.
-Women want what they can't have. Work on winning the group before you win the target.
-At first, act as if you want nothing to do with your target. Make sure the group understands your intentions. ---Don't let anyone in the group feel left out. This is where your social skills will show.
-Be the creator of interesting conversation.
-A single woman's friends will be encouraging you to chase her. Especially if they are saying good things about her.
-Groups move through out the night. Getting the approval of the group will make it easier and more comfortable for her to stay with you if they move.
-Don't ever let yourself get locked out of a set. EVER.

-A false time constraint is best used as you are locking into the set to make it appear as you are not going to stay very long, but also gives the image that you are already a part of the group to the rest of the room(not by yourself), plus will allow you to disarm an interrupt that may enter into the set after you. (i.e. a friend of hers coming back from the bathroom)

-You want to lock yourself into a position where YOU can see the rest of the room. Make it appear as you are already the "King" of that group. One way of doing this is by stealing her seat or her position against the bar or wall.

-Lock in as soon as you can.

-Your false time constraint can also be demonstrated through "body rocking." Make it look as almost if you are "dancing" and it will give the appearance that you are "on your way out" otherwise it can be said. (i.e. I've got to get back to my friends in a second)

-It is an abnormal feat for two people who just met to be normal around each other.

-Good transitioning skills come with good conversation skills. (If you are in an "anti social" career, make even more of an effort to be around people. There is no other way to improve conversation skills except by practicing doing it. See how long you can hold peoples attention for.)

-Once the conversation hooks and you transition into a normal conversation, attraction will start to happen.

-Observational transitions work very well if you are quick and observant of your surroundings.

-If you prefer to transition into routines, the phrase "This reminds me of..." before your routine will make the transition feel normal. People usually don't care about how topics relate to each other as long as they are entertained.

-Don't dip back into the opener. Talking about the same thing during a conversation telegraphs interest because it seems like you are trying to keep the conversation going.

-Don't stale out a set by just standing there. At this point, you can ask the group "So, how do you all know each other?" or eject if the conversation hasn't hooked.

A neg is like a pebble in your hand. (Not a boulder. Don't be a dick.)

A neg is a playful way of knocking your target off her pedestal. Beautiful women learn at a very young age that rules do not apply to them. A neg is a way of saying that you are not going to put up with her shit.

Being nice to someone will not make them like you.

A neg is used when you approach the set and also through out the interaction to keep control of the relationship. Be careful not to over neg, otherwise you will look like an asshole.

The only people who talk to her this way are her dad and her boyfriend. (the people who won't put up with her shit.)

Make sure a neg or your dis-qualifier is not something that you can't overcome and make sure it is done playfully. If you aren't making her laugh, you aren't doing it right.(i.e. Don't say "Too bad you're a tad overweight because I am only into skinny girls.)

Thanks great post! I applaud you sir.

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No problem bro! I kinda forgot about this thread lol I'll add some more notes today

Banter is playfully teasing someone, also known as flirting. It is a way to have fun conversation and disqualify the girl you’re speaking with in order for her to take down her "bitch shield". It lets her know that you are not going to chase after her and you’re simply hanging out and having fun. You know when banter/flirting is working when you are both laughing and having fun in the back and forth exchange of playful teasing. (if you both aren't laughing, you aren't doing it right.)

The whole point of "banter" is getting her to let her guard down and sticking her into the position where she will be chasing YOU! She will feel more and more confortable around you and start to have more feelings of attraction towards you. It's like tennis. You take a shot... she will take a shot right back. You volley back and forth and make her work for you in order to win you over. This is KEY for building attraction. This will show her that you are there to have fun. You are being you. She can join in or choose not to... but either way, you are having a blast with or with out her.

The goal is to hold someone’s attention while building attraction, displaying confidence, personality, and get her comfortable enough to open up to you and go into rapport. The important part about banter and flirting is that it is playful and not to be taken seriously (again, if you both aren't laughing, you are doing it wrong.) So, if you didn’t get her the first time, and she happens to be around you again, you just throw some more playful banter around again and you have the opportunity to hook her that time.

These are some things you want to avoid when using banter and flirting:

1. Using banter when trying to break rapport and building comfort. The last thing you want to do is ask her what her dreams are and what she is passionate about, she tells you, and you make her feel like a dumb ass by using banter! You don't ever want her to open up to you and then tease her for it.

2. Not smiling. You don’t want to just tease her and not have a smile on your face. You want to show her that this is FUN. If you say ignorant shit seriously and don't smile... She will just think you are an asshole.

3. Moving to breaking rapport too quickly. When you move too quickly into building comfort you are displaying too much interest, you’ll lose her. Make her WORK FOR YOU. Keep the conversation light and fun until you get her comfortable and engaged. When you have her hooked in the interaction, then you can go into building rapport.

Bitch Shields

Women are bitches at first (especially hot ones) because they have to be. They want to test your frame. They need to see if you are weak or if you are truly the alpha male. These "shit tests" are usually given pretty early in the interaction but can also be given later on to keep you in check. She is testing the strength of your inner confidence to see how you will react when someone challenges you.

When a girl has her bitch shield up and gives you a shit test, it is also an IOI. She is checking to see if you are a potential mate.

To get around a shit test... Stay happy and positive. Throw a neg at her if you have too. Really just remain non-reactive.

Stop being a pussy and don't be afraid to say NO! WHAT THE FUCK IS A 130 pound girl going to do to you if you disagree with her?

Interrupts

An interrupt could mean several different things... A friend coming back from the bathroom, from the bar, or even some other guy who is trying to steal your set from you.

You can avoid interrupts ruining your set by making sure you lock into the set as quickly as possible. Win over the whole group and make them want you to stay.

If your set gets interrupted, fill the person who just entered in on the story you were telling and continue on.

Holding the emotion and the attention of the group demonstrates that you have good frame control. This is attractive.

Great advice.

Other guys usually will try and cock block you. It’s the law of the land. Males always like to butt heads in front of females and she fucks the winner.

Dealing with an AMOG appropriately can actually help increase attraction and show her that you really are an alpha male. There are a couple different ways to handle a guy who thinks his dick is bigger than yours and want’s to show it off:

1. Blow him out- Make him look like an idiot. Every shot he takes at you, take it to an extreme.
(example: “NICE SHIRT FAG!” “Thanks man! I actually have another one in blue too! I’m glad you approve!”)
Say that with a stupid, cocky, arrogant smirk on your face and watch the girl become more attracted to you. Remember, it is not about the spot light in the bar… it is the audience. Losing your frame to someone who throws a shot at you is a beta move.

2. Befriend Him- Direct your conversation towards him. Get his attention and teach him something. Explain something to him and allow your target to hear the conversation (not necessarily get her involved.. You want to ultimately get rid of him.) Demonstrating that you are able to make friends with even someone who is trying to make your value appear less will put your targets attraction THROUGH THE FUCKING CEILING. By teaching him something or involving him in YOUR conversation, you are demonstrating your social intuition and your inner confidence by taking authority over his actions while maintaining control of your own.

3. Ignore Him- The straight up, rockstar mentality. This, in my opinion, is the most effective way to show that you truly are the leader of fucking men. Act as if you are smoke and each shot he throws at you is just a rock that passes straight through. What is REALLY cool about this technique… If you maintain eye contact with your target and continue the conversation as if he doesn’t exist, she will sense your strong frame and you can FEEL that emotion coming from her.

Now is when attraction begins. You are going to want to start looking for indicators of interest from your target. Girls will hardly ever just come out and say they are interested in you. However, they have emotionally hardwired responses that will tell you when she is attracted. The thing is, most women (and men too) have no idea that they are giving off these signs of attraction through their gestures and body language.

It is important that we have interest from her before giving her any interest what so ever. Showing interest too early will completely give away the fact that you are trying to pick her up. Logically, women don't want to get picked up. It makes them feel like a slut. Emotionally... different story. They love it.

Some of these indicators of interest to look out for are:

-She re-initiates a conversation with you (This can be forced by inserting a "pregnant pause" into the conversation)
-She giggles or laughs at what you are saying (even if it really isn't that funny)
-Touches you (for fucks sake... you would think this one would be obvious but so many guys over look this obvious sign)
-Seeks your attention
-Tosses her hair (this is a primitive sign of grooming to present ones self at their best in the presence of a potential mate)
-Scratches her face or the back of her hand (again, a primitive sign of grooming)
-Holds eye contact with you... The "anime eyes" are also a pretty dead give away.(This could be from across the room too)
-Smiles at you (again... could be from across the room)
-Asks your name, age, where you are from (any type of personal questions really)
-Compliments you on something
-Playfully challenges you (keeps up with your banter)
-Gives you nick names
-Asks about your girlfriend
-Holds your hand/Squeezes your hand

One side note... STRIPPERS DO NOT GIVE REAL IOIs! I am known amongst my social circle for pulling strippers. I have had several conversations with them about certain aspects of pick up. They are TAUGHT to do these things to make a guy think they like them. (Pulling strippers is a whole different game lol learn to walk before you try and crawl)

Once you start receiving IOIs, you can then start to show interest in your target. The most common mistake that most guys make is showing too much interest WAY too early in the interaction... Don't be easy.

-Be conscious of your body language and other forms of non-verbal communication. If you are attracted to a woman, you will start to feel itchy. Don't fuck with your hat or scratch the back of your head or readjust your cloths... Whatever your nervous "tick" may be, fucking stop it.

-Don't show beautiful women interest because they are beautiful. Treat every woman the same. Have standards for yourself and don't be afraid to look for them. She has to believe that you are attract to her for reasons other than her looks in order for her to sleep with you.

-Again, don't be to easy. Make it kind of challenging for her. Don't start throwing compliments at her right away once you receive a few IOIs. Make her work for you. Make her feel as if she is winning you over but hasn't won yet. Make her EARN your interest. We want her chasing US. If you are more difficult to please, your approval means more.

-Don't start putting her through the "job interview" to show interest in her. Hold off the personal questions until you get later into comfort phase. Also avoid deep topics of conversation... This is a very quick way to creep her out.