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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 6:02 pm 
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Unless they're blasted ...
That's the dividing line for me...

Buzzed = banged.


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This forum is a virtual beer with the boys so there's always a bit of PU muscle flexing and self awarding of style points. . . but really, isn't the point to have fun?

Sometimes you go to a cocktail party and enjoy a few. Really? So in this situation, are you going to hit on that one girl who is allergic to alcohol to award yourself +2 points in some self-imagined pick up contest? You're going to stand around with your hands in your pocket while the entire crew is toasting champagnes? I get it, you're a really, really, really cool PUA with high moral values and you've got the really, really, really high skills to pick up sober chicks. And you follow your "principles" so you never buy drinks. When's the last time some of you took a shit?

*Unless of course if you are a recovering alcoholic or have experienced alcoholism in your past. In which case, staying far away from this crap is the best thing . .

In regards to the initial post:

Unless they're blasted, being tipsy is a great excuse to exercise behavior that might seem socially risque for some. They'll display the same behavior to you without the 'I'm a bit drunk" clause if prying eyes aren't around and if you've earned some trust.

^ i have been and known a lot of people in that situation, no big deal... Tyler durden doesn't drink for example, it is not big deal if you treat it as no big deal...

Hb: do you drink? or how come you do not drink?

me: i do not drink, i do martials arts but i don't mind if you do, then i change the subject... Actually if you tell a girl you do not drink it looks like you are not trying to come up with the right answer, or trying to impress...

I never had a problem with my not drinking... What if everybody does coke, are you gonna do coke to fit in??

I do agree with the having fun part, a lot of guys here get caught up in the whole pick up thing like a job, instead of having fun...

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This whole conversation is like being back in HS where my best pick up line was (put arm around HB with a big smile) "Do you want to be my drinking partner?" Not much skill but good times!! Then I grew up... or they did and I adjusted.


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I don't think "buzzed" or "tipsy" are the issue here. Adult women lowering their inhibitions with a couple glasses of wine or what not is of no moral consequence.

Sloppy drunk is unattractive!

Having sex with anyone unable to make a conscious decision is criminal.

This is not hard.

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I don't think "buzzed" or "tipsy" are the issue here. Adult women lowering their inhibitions with a couple glasses of wine or what not is of no moral consequence.

Sloppy drunk is unattractive!

Having sex with anyone unable to make a conscious decision is criminal.

This is not hard.
I couldn't agree more.

There's nothing wrong with anybody enjoying a drink, it's just a small minority of people who I'd like to think wouldn't set out actively to do it but end up dancing on tables and falling off, end up summoning chunks in a corner - Its not attractive behaviour and its these people who feel invincible when they are actually at their most vulnerable, all because don't know or fail to understand their limits.

I typically have 2-3 pints and a couple of shots on a night out these days, as opposed to probably at least 3 times that when I was AFC and didn't understand how to talk to women. Its a choice and an etiquette I now follow.

I can't get the results I'm after if I'm slurring my words, bad frame, making an ass of myself and just all round sloppy, so I really do need my head on my shoulders as I talk to women - I'm not ashamed to admit that.

My friends still take the piss out of me, calling me a light weight because I don't pack away pint after pint like they do anymore, but I don't cave in to their pressure.

All in all I still have a great night regardless, have some fun along the way with some amazing women and there's also the health (and financial) benefits of not binge drinking like I used to - Not to mention waking up with a clear head the next day :P


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If you people have tried to pick up some drunks girls, how would you do it? You just see the girl drunk, and you just go over to her, do or say something to get in her pants

What you usually do or say?


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I don't think "buzzed" or "tipsy" are the issue here. Adult women lowering their inhibitions with a couple glasses of wine or what not is of no moral consequence.

Sloppy drunk is unattractive!

Having sex with anyone unable to make a conscious decision is criminal.

This is not hard.

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What if everybody does coke, are you gonna do coke to fit in??
Thanks for the "what if everybody jumps off of a bridge" lesson but this is why I don't partake in bridge jumping parties or coke snorting parties for that matter.

If you have a personal reason for 'no drinking', this isn't a big deal but night life culture tends to revolve around it.


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If you people have tried to pick up some drunks girls, how would you do it? You just see the girl drunk, and you just go over to her, do or say something to get in her pants

What you usually do or say?
I really wouldn't know what to say ahead of time, it would be have to be a situational opener (something that’s happening or has just happened), but like I said I don't usually choose this type of target.

Success will all depend on whether they can even comprehend what your saying or what is even going on around them.

If you want a more structured routine, I'd say something like "Wow *slight giggle*, it looks like 'you' really know how to party" (and sit down if they are sitting) and try to hold a conversation with them, judge their level of engagement and take it from there.

If they seem responsive enough then try running some game, light kino and just constantly testing the water.

Within the first few minutes you'll establish what is gonna happen and what isn't just remember just because she’s drunk a 'no' still means 'no'.


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I keep hearing people saying "Get the girl drunk, then you will get laid"

I never have been drunk before, I don't even drink that much when I go parties due to gym and boxing that i go to. So I have no idea. How do alcohol effect people and espically with girls? Will they be easier to pull than a regular girl?
get drunk one time, you will understand, fully aware of what you are doing, but your nervous system is depressed and you lower your inhibitions (less self conscious/caring about what people think of you)

when girls say, ''I was so drunk I don't remember'' that usually just means they did something they do remember, but don't want to take responsibility for, most people no matter how drunk they get, can remember what they did unless they have succumb to alcohol poisoning, how ever you are prone to making choices you would not otherwise make when you have not been drinking excessively (for example dancing on a table in front of a bunch of people and ripping your shirt off for no other reason then WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO PARTY TIME!!) this sort of thing might be less appealing when you are sober, because you might think... hmm that would make me look like an ass, when you are drunk, that thought just might not cross your mind, instead you might just think WOOOOOOOOO PARTY TIME!! *rip*

how do you pick up a drunk girl?, same as picking up a sober girl, she just might care a little less if her friends know about it, or care a little less if you aren't perfect (a drunk guy might never want to touch a girl he deems lower then a hb7, get him drunk and horny and he might just fuck a 4-5 just to get it out of his system cause he doesn't care what other people think about him, and he only actually has that rating standard to being with because he is self conscious of what others would think of him to not be with a ''hot'' girl)

once again playa, you won't figure out some secret trick that you have been missing this whole time, there is no magical thing to do or say, just stop being afraid go talk to some girls, and try to kiss them, if you are nervous just ask them, that simple, once you have a girl that is up for kissing/making out, get her to spot alone where the two of you can have sex, and proceed to feel her up and get naked

if you want to know ''how'' it works, its really simple, you go up to a girl, and she either thinks you present yourself well and are high in status among men (good looking, smelling nice, and confident, possibly has cool friends, possibly has money), or she doesn't think you presented yourself well, based off this and how open to the idea she is of meeting someone at that current time, as well as how nervous she gets around new people will dictate the type of response you get initially, the more positive the impression generally, the more into you she probably is to begin with, the more negative, the more work it will take on your end (but you must screen for compliance because some girls are just always social and friendly with everyone, and some girls are always just bitchy and anti social with everyone), there is not some secret thing to say, a girl that thinks you are utterly hot and the perfect image of what her dream man would look like, she may be hoping to make out with you without a single word being spoken, all you need is the courage to do it, and some girls no matter how you look just need some time to get to know you because they are just not that comfortable getting intimate with someone they don't know, and a girl who thinks your are butt-fucking ugly, will not want to kiss you no matter what you say or do with her, and if you get to know her well, she may want to be your friend but she won't offer up compliance that falls within a sexual frame that simple, if you are physically passable to that girl but not quite her definition of perfectly hot man, she may be more on the fence and in that case, just get up on her, make it more your fault then her fault, take all the risks, offer some value to the interaction so she likes you as a person (aka generates some feelings of attraction towards you), the more she likes you as a person the more likely the idea of making out with you will become more appealing, and if it is an ego thing for her and she just doesn't want to be seen making out with a guy that isn't the perfect definition of a 8+/10 in regards to looks, don't let her take responsibility for kissing or anything, just do it, that way her ego can't get as involved because you are not asking anything of her, you are just doing it, and if she likes it there is nothing to say no to, it's just fun, and it feels good to her and she didn't get much of a choice but to enjoy it, but if she isn't into you, she won't be having fun when you try to do anything, she will show you with her body language and everything else she does that she is not interested, it's that easy man, the more she thinks of you and respects you and sees good qualities behind you, the more she will be into it, and remember this doesn't mean spending 2 months demonstrating qualities to her, all that demonstrates to a girl is you are afraid and she doesn't mean enough for you to take a risk....


how you get from point A to point Z is dependent on you, people can give you all the tricks in the world, won't work if you sit on your ass and do nothing asking the same questions on this forum for months when it is evident you never test any of them out or make any attempts at all to use any information

if you need some sort of ''right thing to do'', just pick a pick-up e-book, read it one time, then go do what the book says, THE KEY HERE BEING, GO DO IT, knowledge won't get you laid, it can help improve your chances, but it doesn't make them, going out and trying to get laid will get you laid, no book or article on a forum is going to turn you into a pimp, no magical words will change your situation and suddenly have girls flocking to you, if you stay the same and don't change your habits, your life will stay the same

escalation buddy, if you never move things forward, neither will girls, your abs won't help you, and if you hate your face, that is not the reason girls are not all over you, it is simple, girls do not escalate, this is obviously what you want, some magical way to get a girl to escalate on you so you never have to risk being rejected, but it doesn't work like that, you take the risks, and possibly see a reward, higher risk, higher chance of reward, girls reward courage and confidence in the face of fear, guys that can calmly walk into the unknown like there is no risk at all, it is attractive, it's why guys that can do amazing and scary things, are amazing themselves, the more value a girl sees behind you, the less your looks will matter, but she has to at least be willing to see past them to begin with (this is what screening is for, looks are subjective so you must figure out how well she screens, if she doesn't screen well, onto the next one)

just talk to some girls and kiss them dude, come back and ask more questions after you have made out with a few girls, until then, all your questions will be useless for you, making a change to what you do will make more of a difference to your life, then making a change in what you know

if you want to be a player who never dates any girls, the first step is talking to alot of girls, and failing with alot, so that you also succeed with alot, the more you succeed, the more options you will have

GOOD LUCK


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What if everybody does coke, are you gonna do coke to fit in??
Thanks for the "what if everybody jumps off of a bridge" lesson but this is why I don't partake in bridge jumping parties or coke snorting parties for that matter.

If you have a personal reason for 'no drinking', this isn't a big deal but night life culture tends to revolve around it.

^ Night life culture revolve around drugs as well... As i said it does not affect your social interactions, in my opinion...

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If you people have tried to pick up some drunks girls, how would you do it? You just see the girl drunk, and you just go over to her, do or say something to get in her pants

What you usually do or say?

First i am gonna talk about the real world and how it works,90%of the time, if a HOT girl is drunk, she will have an army of girls protecting her, or dudes, or the bouncers may kick her out of the club. The real issue you have to worry about is that if the girl tells you "i am drunk" most of the time is bs, is a dtf girl, that tells you she is drunk for a justification of her sluttines = translation i want you to fuck me...

Player you need to stop with the mental masturbation, and multiple questionS, you have asked on and off the forum every possible question known to man, plus you have read all of the books... Like pumpington says is time to go on the FIELD... I am giving you tough love because that is what you need do... You need to get out there.

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Chicks are often easier to root when drunk.

A 'leg opener' is a drink that is called so for a reason.


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The real issue you have to worry about is that if the girl tells you "i am drunk" most of the time is bs, is a dtf girl, that tells you she is drunk for a justification of her sluttines = translation i want you to fuck me...
Kudos Skills, that is ABSOLUTELY the truth, whenever a woman has told (whispered) she is drunk, was for her own moral justification! they are not even "saying" it to you, they are saying it to themselves!

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^ Night life culture revolve around drugs as well... As i said it does not affect your social interactions, in my opinion...
Night life "revolves" around drugs? Even in South Florida, in this era anyways, you don't order cocaine at every bar and club. Even in mafia owned private clubs in Hong Kong you don't see drugs in every room. On the other hand, at any bar, any club, any where in the World, people order alcohol in bars/clubs. I didn't create this culture, I'm just reporting on it as it is. Nigh life revolves around alcohol. Drugs play a small role. . . just as orgies, basketball, poker, and knitting could play 'roles' in night life.

However, I do not go to orgies and tell them, "Sorry, I'm just hear to watch." I don't go to basketball games with my friends and tell them, "Sorry, I'm just going to hang out at concession stand." I don't go to poker nights and tell my buddies, "I'll play with you but I'll do it with pretend money." I don't go to knitting night with 60 year old ladies so I can tell them, "I'll just sit here and watch you knit."

Everything that you do or say affects your 'social interactions'. You keep telling us that you experience positive social interactions and and that you have policies and principles. . . and you're a kung fu master of no beer pick up. I get it. When the guys who run this forum come up with virtual Pick Up Champion trophies, I'll be sure to award you with one.

*Again, I have nothing against people who do not drink. And as skills reports, you could certainly PU in clubs completely sober for the rest of your life . . but this is not the point of my post.


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