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someone that takes what women say (rather than what they do) at face value, just does not know women very well.
"Anyone who says he can see through women is missing a lot." - Groucho Marx
People hide their intentions, and for PUA's that means they have to figure out what girls are thinking, even if they won't say it up front, agreed. But that's a different issue to re-interpreting the word "no" to satisfy a sense of sexual worth. (Which is often what bad PUA's do in order to protect their egos)
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women are not men. their minds work very differently to ours. also, cultural norms play an important role. what type of girl is she if she verbally consents to having sex with a stranger? this is the power of non verbal escalation. she's not a slut if you did'nt say you want to fuck her and she did'nt say yes. it just happened, right? in her mind it is.
"it just happened". that's what you're aiming at. and many women will say that after a snl with someone they just met. it's their way of justifying what went on. needless to say, we all need to be very careful. bounderies get blurred and not everything is black and white. this is human interaction after all.
Granted men and women are exposed to different social pressures and many girls in public will be uncomfortable with open displays of sexuality (depending on where you are in the world) but in private a woman SHOULD be comfortable expressing herself with you. If she isn't, then I argue that you've failed to do your job as a PUA.
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rape is forced. sex is consentual. that is the divider (even legally speaking) and i think most men know the difference very well. and a girl that had a great time, went home with you, had multiple orgasms and gave you a kiss before she left is not thinking "rape". hahahahaha
It's kind of obvious that a girl who enjoys herself wasn't being raped, but I disagree with the premise that most men know the difference very well. A big problem in our society is our inability to spot and deal with rape, it's massively under-reported and misunderstood and its something that people are now trying to fight against and educate people on.
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guess what, 90% of women will give you some form of resistance at every level of escalation. if you react to that in any way, you're already disqualified and the chances that you will NEVER have sex with her exponentially increase every time.
I don't know what girls you've been hanging out with, but I've found as I've gotten better and better with women resistance has gotten less and less. Sure you get girls who are nervous about going home to your place because they don't know you, or don't want to sleep with you because they don't want you to think less of them. But these are real problems with real solutions. Don't ignore them, just listen and adapt.
AFC Adam did a brilliant video on just dealing with problems rather than ignoring because they are shit tests.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6TGBKaR76c
He starts talking about "Problem solving" at 20:30 of the vid. Really worth watching. I think he's also spoken about this else-where though.
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at some point, no really means no. but most people know when that moment comes. but let's be clear, a girl is not coming to your place to watch a youtube video, trust me. unless she's mentally retarded, in which case anything you do will be considered as rape lol. it does not mean, she has comitted to having sex with you (and that would be stupid to think), but it means she has an intent to eventually do so.
Assuming as a PUA you've made sure that she understands what you're all about.
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at this point you use your better judgement about what you can and can't do, and how far you can go. generally, if she's pushing you away and looks like she's not having a good time while saying "stop", is when you should just stop.
but if you're waiting for her to say "yes" before you start undressing her, and your actually using the words "come on", i don't think your bed is seeing much action really.
Agreed. Though I still drop "Wanna Fuck?" before I have sex with anyone. Having something like that can help the heat of the interaction through dirty talk etc and ensures you are both on the same page without being too formal.
Come to think of it. "Wanna Fuck?" is an awesome phrase.
CHAT
(which she definitely isn't.. I got a deep-troath BJ from her lovely mouth in a state park a few weeks ago 
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