Text game is useful and has its place. The problem is that many guys try to use text game as a crutch and that they way overdo it and get to gamey over text.

The key to having great "text" game is to have great real game. For example, lets say you approach a hottie during the day. Both of you vibe really well and even go on a insta-date. You both walk around the city hitting up the water front, a small cafe, then back to a hill to sit and talk and during the whole process you create a super strong emotional connection with her.

The next day when you send her a text shes probably going to respond even if your opening text is very simple and plain. "Hi" would work extremely well here. Once she text you back you would simply have to set up logistics and that be it. Problem is most guys would get gamey here and start trying to build attraction and shit. Its overkill and in this suitation it can hurt you.

Now lets picture you go out the next day and meet a chick. She is cold distant to you right away. You find out she has a BF and you ignore it and try to build some sort of emotional connection with her. After about ten minutes you decide to part ways and meet a better girl but you throw out the suggestion to change numbers anyways. "What do I got to loose?" you think to yourself. Unbeknown to you, shes a little down today and could use a validation boost so shes gives you her number.

I don't care how amazing your "text game" is, that girl is going to flake. Shes most likely not even going to answer your first text and even if she does, shes just going to try and suck some validation out of you.

Most guys use texting as a crutch. They go out and just do the bare minium to get a number and think its okay because they will just "generate attraction" over text. Then they come on here and post a bunch of questions on why she flaked. He will be given a bunch of anti-flake text by some KJ and he will try those but still have no success.

Of course, I'm in no way saying text game is useless. I'm simply saying that most guys either get too gamey or use it as a crutch. Solid text game can be used to great success on women who sorta want to meet up with you but is unsure. Its also great too use for women you met online. In those cases you can really amp up the flirtatiousness over text and get her super excited to meet you.

Text game has its place, most guys just dont understand what that place is.

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I don´t like this texting and text game thing, most probably because I suck at it. I´m also a very efficient minded guy. Thinking of good texts, what to text and when to text just costs me too much energy and it makes me too much invested in her, while I want her to be more invested in me. I also don't want to seduce her in texts or on the phone, I use it to arrange dates, to make her a bit more comfortable and as reminders; I leave the seduction part for real life interactions.

Like Chief said, there is much room to fuck up. That is because the one who talks the most is the one who qualifies him/herself. If you keep on texting her and think of good ways to text her, then you are just qualifying yourself.

And also, I think it´s too feminine to text (too) much. I don´t spend 10 text messages a day with my best friends so there is also no reason to do that with girls. Most girls know that a lot of guys don´t text much or only to meet up with friends, so they won´t find it weird that you don´t text them a lot.
A bit of feminity in your texts, like warmth, showing that you´re interested and a normal guy and not some kind of freak, can be compensated by male attributes like being short, not reaction seeking and efficient. That´s how I do it though.

If you are good in text game and sexting, when it works for you and it gives you a great deal of good results, then by any means just continue doing it! I only say that it's possible to arrange a date with a girl even if you only text her 3-4 times in 8 days.

I also prefer texting over calling because there are times and places when calling is not convenient. A text message is subtle, can be read any time and you can text back whenever you want. If she sees that she got a missed phone call she might not call back because it might be too much investment.
I normaly use texting to arrange dates and meetings. If she doesn´t text back I think it´s not because she didn´t like it that I didn´t call her instead, but because she is shy, busy or not interested. If she likes you though or is not affraid to date a guy she met in just a few minutes, then she will agree to go on a date with you anyway.

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I agree and disagree on text game. while I agree that it may create a confort layer for pussies and establish just this relationship layer, it has practical uses that are having been pointed out by other members (skills, 666man).

I opened a 2 set HB8.5 with a real time constraint (on her part) because she was literally walking to get a cab @ 4am after clubbing, and having cold approached after the 2 minute walking convo I got a facebbok-close (shouldn't this be included in the closes nowadays with 20-ish girls?).

Went from fb messages to SPAM (smartphone chat application) to effective D1, D2 k-close etc (couldn't f-close D3 for logistical reasons - I fucked that up).

What I'm saying is that it's true... If you haven't had enough time with the HB to get to comfort levels and are still trying to establish attraction, texting (o chatting) can work like a drawn out convo where you can use many of the convo methods if you get your timing and know how to convey intonation. The attraction was definitely there and txt helped me build comfort for the D1 and establish C&F and my general wit (and it took a long sunday chat where the girl started opening up, and then I transitioned to a D1)

Girls nowadays love to chat and they see it as talking to potential suitors.... You still need to be able to maintain control of the frame though... Just my 2 cents.

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What I'm saying is very simple. Your impression on the girl should be that good and your connection with the girl should be so strong, so when you take her number and seed a meeting all you need to do is to set up the "date" (preferably at your place). There shouldn't be any "gaming" at this point. If you still need to game her so she would agree to meet you - then you didn't properly take her number.

If you took the number and now you're "text gaming her" - then you fucked up the number close. You're now in "damage control"

Of course texting can be used as a tool but I rather not hide behind my phone, it's not the man I want to be and I don't think it's the man that you should want to be.

The same goes for internet game, I know it's super easy and I've done it before, but I want to be out and communicate with people face to face, not hide behind a computer at my desk. It's lame.

You want to get laid? Go out to the street and walk up to each girl you like and say "hey, you're cute, I'd like to meet you. What's your name?". Do this 1000 times until you meet a girl who would agree to go out with you on an "instant date". Then sit with her somewhere, then take her to your apartment and bang her. That's "real men game": http://vanofvictory.com/instant-date-instant-pull/

All else is rubbish.

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See those are your mistakes, if you think you suck, she will think you suck, you are trying to impress, as i have been saying bring her to you and your awesomeness, without TRYING TO IMPRESS...
On the contrary there is less room to fuck up.. Qualifying yourself???is cause you are doing it wrong.. the things are highlighted are limiting beliefs, they are not facts, i have a heavy latin accent, i use text too my advantage, since verbal game is a weakness for me, plus i have a gf and other shit to do, texting is very efficient, and like the sexman says you can get naked pics, and build the sexual tention, most guys including experience guys 60 yoc, chief etc...Do not agree with texting, but that is their opinion is not factual, there are many way to put pipi in warm hole... There is a dude here vick something that does online to sex.... correct...
The key is like wm said is to make sure she is a solid lead(during the interaction) instead of getting a number for getting a number(flakes) NUMBERS DO NOT MEAN SHIT...

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Chief's post is VERY solid.

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What a waste of time and resources is not EFFICIENT...Dude stop with the ignorance, seriously..

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I want to meet people face to face and have REAL communication. I want to see the girl I'm seducing , I want to make her blush, I want to dance with her, and smell her hair and see how she smiles at me.

" " DOES NOT COUNT.

You want efficiency? call an escort. And nobody said I have to do it 1000 times. My close rate, at WARM approach (girl smiles at me) is maybe 80%.

(P.S - still love you bro)

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Dude lets say i meet a girl, i go out at 11 pm, go up to 3 girls and get 1 of them to use the instant date, that you are talking about... then i fuck her...( spend the whole night with her)

vs.(my style)


Lets say i go up to 3 girls, get one, invested, heavy make out, grouping, the whole night yards, emotional connection whatever...I get her number 11 to 11.30 or 12.00 am... And get her number since she is probably not ready to go home yet for that i would have probably stay with her from 11.30 to 2 am or 3 am or even later(my wing those this shit drives me crazy) stuck with one girl the whole fucking night...What if after that around 1 am i go up to maybe 3 other girls, do the same process till 2 am, lets say, and makeout, heavy grouping, emotional whatever, then GET HER NUMBER... Then from at 3 am i got another girl same process, at 4 am i leave the club with her...

I will most likely fuck 3 girls(one that night, 2 on text game) while my wing instant dated fuck 1....

Now which one is more efficient... 3 girls vs 1 girl...that is on 1 night, same process the second night and maybe a third night...

i have 6 most likely fuck(follow ups and they will fuck) while i had 3 one night stands... vs you gooing out 3 days lets say only 3 girls...


Again you can do both, combine text game, with ons(instant date or whatever)...

In my opinion being stuck with a girl is just extremely boring for me... I actually have fun, texting, trolling fucking with them, is entertaining...Plus i fuck them...you can do both, one does not have to be exclusive of the other... Phagan, this post is ignorant, i will challenge you to learn how to properly learn text game, ask the sexman, he is really good at it... Just try it, but no the stupid ass community vin dicarlo bs. actually sexting...

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This is well said. You should take her number when its "ripe" and not just ask when they are not ready for that.
Thats why I do not relate to people saying "numbers does not mean anything, second dates is what is important".
For me getting a number is almost guaranteed 2nd date, because I take the number when I know that she likes me enough for a date.
I do not ask for numbers after few phrases and no connection as other people do (thats why they say numbers don't mean shit, because they take almost random numbers)

So I can understand what OP means by you just need to set up date via text, its because at least 90% of those numbers are "closed deals" (so no need to "overclose" it by even more "text game")

How about this. Lets say you have SUPER TIGHT GAME. You go out, talk with three girls an hour, each 20 minutes, taking their numbers and setting up a date the next day without "text game" WHATEVER THAT MEANS, and you do this 3 hours a night, that's 9 solid numbers.

What the fuck man.......

the point here is that there should not be "text game" there should just be "man game" get the number and then meet the chick. Texting is what girls do with each other, and what teenagers do.

LOOK AT YOUR FACEBOOK WALL - how much of it is girls talking junk and posting shit, and how much is it GUYS doing the same?

Real man don't text. Period.

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How about you give and example of this "SUPER TIGHT GAME" , go more in detail on what it is what you do(and please tell me is no the video i saw with you on a bicycle)... And please help me become a real man, what steps can i take to achieve being "a real man that does not text"???????I mean am i getting "punk on mtv forum" where is Astoon cusher or whatever his name is????? This is just ridiculous...

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Sorry man but if I can transition text 2 fuck, then I'm not a real man??

Come on that's just stereotyping, like saying we all have to have our varsity jackets on, come on....

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If you "transition text 2 fuck" then when you took the number you did a good enough job.

skills - start up a company at 21-22, travel the world for 5 years, speak four languages, have an awesome life - and you won't need "text game" at all.

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