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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 12:53 am 
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[quote=""The Gift""]It has wound me up. Some manipulative bitches out there.
Why? No offense, but we PUA's often do the same thing to them, just with sex. It's the pot calling the kettle black.

I don't feel sorry for any man or woman who gets played, if anything, it'll help them wise up.[/quote]PUA isn't about manipulation tho let alone sexless prostitution. Plus we aren't taking anything from these girls but their time, these girls take money and gifts in return they give these guys a bit of attention.


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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 12:56 am 
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These are the types of bitches that make me wish I had the ability to lead them on and actually make them attracted to me then crush them. Taste of their own medicine.

Unfortunately, that's not possible because they are far too stuck up.

Would rather an ugly fatty to marry me then one of these girls.
The thing is they will get a taste of their own medicine tho, but it will come at a later date when they find they are no longer as attractive anymore and they have to compete with younger hotter girls and they be single and basically broke.


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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 11:18 am 
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Yeah, I live in Brum at the moment as I am at uni, but I am from Doncaster, so nearer sheff, but will still go both, not fussed either way


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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 11:37 am 
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They are probably like that because they got manipulated for sex in the past.

And the guys who they have manipulated for money will manipulate other women as well.

Its the ironic sad circle of life. For example, the kid you save from an abusive father will eventually grow up and do the same thing to his/her children.

I dont think they should be overly stigmatized as a lot of men do the same thing for sex. But if one sees signs of a gold digger, you better run like Forrest.

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bunch of losers. imo this topic doesn't even belong to this forum.


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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 12:17 pm 
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I've not seen the full documentary yet, however I am fully aware of the financial domination / money slavery world, where women 'financial dommes' have been known to take hundreds of thousands of dollars from male 'slaves'.

The men who take part in this usually have very low self-esteem and poor social skills, they are just the type of men who should be on this forum, men who need to improve themselves, their self-respect and self-confidence, especially around women.

The findommes are experts at manipulation and 'brainwash' men into serving them. They employ similar tactics and psychology used to create cults and suicide bombers. Just like the cult/suicide bomber, the findommes look for the type of person who has a psyche/mindset that is easy to mold, that has characteristics conducive to their purpose. They tend to prey on men with low self-esteem, men who are depressed, men who are isolated and have little or no friends or social life. The men are also usually addicted to femdom porn and tend to be submissive sexually.

Most men stumble across financial domination completely by accident in their pursuit of porn. They may have been searching sites like 'clips4sale' for ass worship/femdom/tease and denial clips, and the clip they download, unknown to them at the time, also had a theme of financial domination inside it. Even though it was categorised as 'ass worship' or 'bikini' or 'Tease and denial' or 'female domination' or whatever, it may have those things as a main theme, but will also have a theme of financial domination, which contains a series of suggestions, often NLP/hypnotic, to induce the man to serve the findomme financially. The embedded commands, often very blatant and overt, carry much more effect in a video that arouses high levels of sexual desire. This is an altered state of consciousness in itself, and when watching such a clip one can enter a trance state very easily, which makes the subconscious mind much more susceptible to the commands given. Remember also that sex energy is the most powerful state to induce action (according to Napoleon Hill in Think and Grow Rich). The combination of the trance state, embedded commands, a sexy video that induces lust and the transmutation of this sexual energy (for the findommes goals, not the guys) and you have a dangerous combination for the person susceptible to its influence (i.e. one with the submissive nature, low self-esteem and social isolation the findomme preys on). Most 'regular' men would just ignore it, but if this appeals to her 'target market', then the hidden seed is given water and sustenance and starts to grow. At this point the guy may start buying up more of her clips, visit her website, blog, etc regularly and eventually contact the findomme. Usually when he initially contacts her its NOT to give her his money (unless hes been 'converted' already), its usually for a secondary service, such as orgasm control or chastity, etc which is something which the findomme uses to lure men/prospective slaves in and to get them addicted.

The most common approach is to control the guys orgasms, and only allow them a release/orgasm after he has paid a 'cum tax'. Once he has made this transition, the findomme knows she has a 'live one' and works to convert him into a slave she can milk. She then exploits the 'foot in the door' technique by progressively increase the amount the guy pays to have an orgasm. Over time, with the guy only ever having an orgasm when he pays the women, and the price increasing progressively, this effectively creates an anchor like Pavlov's dogs where spending money on the findomme is linked to orgasm. Once this connection is made, spending money on the domme is pleasurable, even if the slave doesn't actually orgasm (due to the positive anchor created) and the slave also becomes desensitised to spending money, all resistance to parting with money breaks down and this is how slaves have been known to part with tens or even hundreds of thousands of dollars. Whenever the slave spends money (especially large amounts), he is often mentioned in his findommes blog or in a video. This recognition of the slaves efforts gives the slave attention, and also induces social proof and competition among other slaves, who may follow his lead and/or try to outdo the slave by spending more. This competition to be the number 1 slave, and the desire to be noticed and blogged about by the findomme can get very expensive. All that started with $50 the slave paid to have his orgasm controlled. Little did the slave know this was the starting point of financial ruin. It doesn't stop there though. Over time the 'slave' can develop a condition similar to porn induced erectile dysfunction, where he cannot orgasm without actually parting with his money. This means the slave is effectively stuck, and any other porn or sexual stimulation does not interest him any more. The only sexual outlet is to spend on his 'findomme'. Normal sex with a real life women does not interest him, even HB10's. The slave doesn't want sex anymore, he wants to spend his money on his domme so he can have an orgasm. These men have been conditioned to become addicted to giving money to their findommes.

Financial domination is a sickening practice that ruins lives, it's almost like a cult even. The findommes obviously have distorted value systems/morals and they manipulate men to their advantage, men who at first don't even know they are on the path to ruin.

Are those men losers? I'd say they are more the victim of a womans evil manipulative scheme. Obviously the men who undertake this are responsible for their actions, but when in the addictive fog that financial domination can induce, its very hard for a slave to say no to a findommes demands, especially when he has been conditioned so well to comply with her every whim.


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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 2:57 pm 
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I've just finished watching the documentary, and it riled me. These women are evil, selfish and manipulative, rotten to the core.

The ones in the documentary were not quite the same as the findommes that I know of (who are solely online based, and are actually more manipulative than those in the documentary) but you can be assured they will likely have the same thoughts and attitudes.


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I've not seen the full documentary yet, however I am fully aware of the financial domination / money slavery world, where women 'financial dommes' have been known to take hundreds of thousands of dollars from male 'slaves'.

The men who take part in this usually have very low self-esteem and poor social skills, they are just the type of men who should be on this forum, men who need to improve themselves, their self-respect and self-confidence, especially around women.

The findommes are experts at manipulation and 'brainwash' men into serving them. They employ similar tactics and psychology used to create cults and suicide bombers. Just like the cult/suicide bomber, the findommes look for the type of person who has a psyche/mindset that is easy to mold, that has characteristics conducive to their purpose. They tend to prey on men with low self-esteem, men who are depressed, men who are isolated and have little or no friends or social life. The men are also usually addicted to femdom porn and tend to be submissive sexually.

Most men stumble across financial domination completely by accident in their pursuit of porn. They may have been searching sites like 'clips4sale' for ass worship/femdom/tease and denial clips, and the clip they download, unknown to them at the time, also had a theme of financial domination inside it. Even though it was categorised as 'ass worship' or 'bikini' or 'Tease and denial' or 'female domination' or whatever, it may have those things as a main theme, but will also have a theme of financial domination, which contains a series of suggestions, often NLP/hypnotic, to induce the man to serve the findomme financially. The embedded commands, often very blatant and overt, carry much more effect in a video that arouses high levels of sexual desire. This is an altered state of consciousness in itself, and when watching such a clip one can enter a trance state very easily, which makes the subconscious mind much more susceptible to the commands given. Remember also that sex energy is the most powerful state to induce action (according to Napoleon Hill in Think and Grow Rich). The combination of the trance state, embedded commands, a sexy video that induces lust and the transmutation of this sexual energy (for the findommes goals, not the guys) and you have a dangerous combination for the person susceptible to its influence (i.e. one with the submissive nature, low self-esteem and social isolation the findomme preys on). Most 'regular' men would just ignore it, but if this appeals to her 'target market', then the hidden seed is given water and sustenance and starts to grow. At this point the guy may start buying up more of her clips, visit her website, blog, etc regularly and eventually contact the findomme. Usually when he initially contacts her its NOT to give her his money (unless hes been 'converted' already), its usually for a secondary service, such as orgasm control or chastity, etc which is something which the findomme uses to lure men/prospective slaves in and to get them addicted.

The most common approach is to control the guys orgasms, and only allow them a release/orgasm after he has paid a 'cum tax'. Once he has made this transition, the findomme knows she has a 'live one' and works to convert him into a slave she can milk. She then exploits the 'foot in the door' technique by progressively increase the amount the guy pays to have an orgasm. Over time, with the guy only ever having an orgasm when he pays the women, and the price increasing progressively, this effectively creates an anchor like Pavlov's dogs where spending money on the findomme is linked to orgasm. Once this connection is made, spending money on the domme is pleasurable, even if the slave doesn't actually orgasm (due to the positive anchor created) and the slave also becomes desensitised to spending money, all resistance to parting with money breaks down and this is how slaves have been known to part with tens or even hundreds of thousands of dollars. Whenever the slave spends money (especially large amounts), he is often mentioned in his findommes blog or in a video. This recognition of the slaves efforts gives the slave attention, and also induces social proof and competition among other slaves, who may follow his lead and/or try to outdo the slave by spending more. This competition to be the number 1 slave, and the desire to be noticed and blogged about by the findomme can get very expensive. All that started with $50 the slave paid to have his orgasm controlled. Little did the slave know this was the starting point of financial ruin. It doesn't stop there though. Over time the 'slave' can develop a condition similar to porn induced erectile dysfunction, where he cannot orgasm without actually parting with his money. This means the slave is effectively stuck, and any other porn or sexual stimulation does not interest him any more. The only sexual outlet is to spend on his 'findomme'. Normal sex with a real life women does not interest him, even HB10's. The slave doesn't want sex anymore, he wants to spend his money on his domme so he can have an orgasm. These men have been conditioned to become addicted to giving money to their findommes.

Financial domination is a sickening practice that ruins lives, it's almost like a cult even. The findommes obviously have distorted value systems/morals and they manipulate men to their advantage, men who at first don't even know they are on the path to ruin.

Are those men losers? I'd say they are more the victim of a womans evil manipulative scheme. Obviously the men who undertake this are responsible for their actions, but when in the addictive fog that financial domination can induce, its very hard for a slave to say no to a findommes demands, especially when he has been conditioned so well to comply with her every whim.
What a great in-depth post, really has opened my eyes to exactly what they're doing...which makes it even more sickening, and me even more angry. These guys need help, I just wish they would join a forum like this, or some experienced PUA guru would be able to help them out

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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 4:19 pm 
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It is all game! If a guy falls for the exploits of a woman and has the means to financially support that approach and most importantly "He is happy" I say go for it. I make a pretty decent salary and enjoy pleasures in my life, but I will not buy girls gifts unless they are a LTR etc...If I choose to take the HB9 with me to a music fest or on a cruise, well that is something I am doing for me! She just benefits as well...Great discussion tho!


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Whilst I detest the manipulative bitches on this program, it's not that different to what some people in te PUA community do. Whilst the majority of PUAs start out as awkward, socially inept people you can use the methods to your extreme advantage. I personally have had many women to the point that they WANT (keyword) to, say bring me takeout at 4am after a night out. Women that will pick me up from clubs when I'm drunk or whatever. I don't see anything wrong with what I do as the girls are happy and I'm happy. I must say though the program has made me think if what I'm doing is right


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