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Nothing is immoral - my enjoyment is all that matters.
I derive enjoyment - by hurting others emotionally.

Where is the problem ? So long as no one is being forced, or coerced women enjoy hurting men all the time. PUA is just another method of training for battle.

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Nothing is immoral - my enjoyment is all that matters.
I derive enjoyment - by hurting others emotionally.

Where is the problem ? So long as no one is being forced, or coerced women enjoy hurting men all the time. PUA is just another method of training for battle.
could it be this is the reason why you're here?


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PUA is bullshit. Game doesn't exist.

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PUA is bullshit. Game doesn't exist.
hahahah...im startintg to think about it....
Yeah its good to know something,but......but......but?????


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PUA is bullshit. Game doesn't exist.
http://justinwaynepua.com/category/just ... y-reports/

and don't tell me it's because he's good looking cause he is not.


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PUA is bullshit. Game doesn't exist.
http://justinwaynepua.com/category/just ... y-reports/

and don't tell me it's because he's good looking cause he is not.
Actually, the guy isn't half bad looking. He's not gaming any of those girls, he's simply using nature to his advantage (increasing sexual tension to get into their pants). He does exactly what I do.

I would say that game exists but I don't say it because the word is tainted by bullshit definitions for the majority of the community because people think game means something else than what it really means. It's misleading.


He's just being direct and having balls. None of the pussy ass shit most of you on here think is the way to get women.

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He's just being direct and having balls. None of the pussy ass shit most of you on here think is the way to get women.
and what exactly is "pussy ass shit" in your understanding?


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He's just being direct and having balls. None of the pussy ass shit most of you on here think is the way to get women.
and what exactly is "pussy ass shit" in your understanding?
-Push/pull
-fools mate
-wing man
-Cocky/funny
-DHV stories
-Alpha male
-NLP
-freeze outs
-cat string theory
-alpha male
-pea cocking
-routines/lines
-negs
-social proof
-money
-looks
-workshops/boot camps
-text game
-phone game
-internet game
-indirect game
-kino
-witty
-sarcasm
-smiling/laughing
-frame control
-rapport
-high energy
-highly animated body language

Keep in mind some of those are helpful and vaguely included. For example, rapport is helpful in the sense of exchanging names and a few bs questions. Not the definition that most people have in their minds. Most gurus/so called PUAs are playing the boyfriend role. People put way too much emphasis on those with the least amount of emphasis on one and only one thing: ESCALATION. The majority of people in the community aren't here to seduce, but to get good reactions out of women.

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I read the article which was linked to in full. As with most articles by shrinks (or people who are fascinated by psychology as this guy clearly is) I thought it would be worth sticking with as he does make some good points about the many deeper unresolved issues that many of us have.

For those who didn't read it here are the notes I jotted down while reading. These were just for my own memory originally so they might not make all that much sense.
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Good points on deeper issues

Good points on men who fail to improve through PUA then being troubled by issues from the past. It is as if we set ourselves up for failure through not being able to conquer game and get attractive women. It is then like we have failed twice. It is a big pressure if you think about it.

He also makes good point on PUAs not going for sex (prostitution) but preferring the validation of women through PUA. Game the stripper, but don't bang the hooker kind of thing.

Even if Mystery might be a narcissist if you choose to do game to get laid what is the problem? You are playing her ego, but that doesn't mean you have to become the person who interacts with her ego.

As self improvement it might not be representative of healthy behaviour - but then author doesn't seem to outline the answers - only his doubts on PUA.

Dubious on application of term narcissist and forgets we are all conscious beings. He said co dependents are conscious, but then goes on giving the impression that people who read too much PUA become "PUAs" and take on different personalities.

Good points on Evolutionary theories excusing women's behaviour (women have an evolutionary reason to give guys a hard time when approached, but they should be held responsible - just as men are held to account for rape or aggression which might have evolutionary purposes).

He is right to say PUAs blame themselves for failures while excusing her shitty behaviour on the basis that their game was not good enough.

Shit tests might be an egotistical thing that we are trying to get around. What is wrong with that? "I have a boyfriend" might or might not be a shit test if she gets hit on a lot. The author makes out a shit test is always a calculated test by the woman. Probably not true.

Makes a good point in telling men to value their time instead of being played, but he doesn't spend enough time talking about this kind of value. That would be the interesting article.

Good points on PUAs holding themselves to a high standard - trying to have a smart answer for everything. Is this possible for some people?? Again, setting ourselves up for failure with unreasonable expectations
I thought the article was good, but perhaps the author himself is somewhat egotistical. He is in the habit of diagnosing personality disorders from limited information, and showing little empathy when he does. This is dubious in itself, and is one of the worst traits of mental health professionals who engage in this kind of analysis. I don't know if he is or isn't a professional, but the concept of personality disorders is not set in stone. He seems to refer to them like they are a thorough way of defining and explaining everything.

As with all articles / theories and books on psychology. The article deserving of most praise will be the one which shows you how to fix the deeper issues in yourself - not the article that theorises on other people's issues. Anyone know where that article is?


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and what exactly is "pussy ass shit" in your understanding?
-Push/pull
-fools mate
-wing man
-Cocky/funny
-DHV stories
-Alpha male
-NLP
-freeze outs
-cat string theory
-alpha male
-pea cocking
-routines/lines
-negs
-social proof
-money
-looks
-workshops/boot camps
-text game
-phone game
-internet game
-indirect game
-kino
-witty
-sarcasm
-smiling/laughing
-frame control
-rapport
-high energy
-highly animated body language

Keep in mind some of those are helpful and vaguely included. For example, rapport is helpful in the sense of exchanging names and a few bs questions. Not the definition that most people have in their minds. Most gurus/so called PUAs are playing the boyfriend role. People put way too much emphasis on those with the least amount of emphasis on one and only one thing: ESCALATION. The majority of people in the community aren't here to seduce, but to get good reactions out of women.
Your so called "he's having balls" is called being alpha male in the community. You can call it differently if it makes you feel better, but the essence is the same. As far as indirect goes, that dude does use indirect as well with great success. The point is:whether you comprehend it or not, you and everybody else is doing these things. Some do it consciously others do it unconsciously. I don't see how this makes any difference except for somebody actually taking action in his life while the other one just capitalizes on his luck of being born in a different surrounding with different genes.


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-Push/pull
-fools mate
-wing man
-Cocky/funny
-DHV stories
-Alpha male
-NLP
-freeze outs
-cat string theory
-alpha male
-pea cocking
-routines/lines
-negs
-social proof
-money
-looks
-workshops/boot camps
-text game
-phone game
-internet game
-indirect game
-kino
-witty
-sarcasm
-smiling/laughing
-frame control
-rapport
-high energy
-highly animated body language

Keep in mind some of those are helpful and vaguely included. For example, rapport is helpful in the sense of exchanging names and a few bs questions. Not the definition that most people have in their minds. Most gurus/so called PUAs are playing the boyfriend role. People put way too much emphasis on those with the least amount of emphasis on one and only one thing: ESCALATION. The majority of people in the community aren't here to seduce, but to get good reactions out of women.
Your so called "he's having balls" is called being alpha male in the community. You can call it differently if it makes you feel better, but the essence is the same. As far as indirect goes, that dude does use indirect as well with great success. The point is:whether you comprehend it or not, you and everybody else is doing these things. Some do it consciously others do it unconsciously. I don't see how this makes any difference except for somebody actually taking action in his life while the other one just capitalizes on his luck of being born in a different surrounding with different genes.
Yes yes, having balls is called being alpha male. But let me give you an example where this is silly. A bunch of guys who have recently learned about alpha or when I learned about alpha, it was still pointless. Instead of using cocky/funny to try to be interesting, I was all of a sudden trying to hit "state" with girls. Yeah I'm the man. Look at me. We all know how well that works at the end of the day. The reason that I have such a drastic mentality towards guys who are all caught up in "game" is because they are drastic themselves. In order for them to learn, you have to tell them to unlearn everything about game. You have to tell them that everything is bullshit and to stick with escalation. It's like the Karate Kid. Don't question what's alpha, just paint the fence..you will understand later.

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This article sucked, it sounded to me like a guy who was picked on all his life is going out and considering everyone who is self confident a narcissist. zzzz There's nothing wrong with picking up women and nothing wrong with knowing that you're an awesome person. Let the haters hate, and let them say as they wish..


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