Thanks Zip for the replies, some intresting new things, i certainly learnt from it.

Naturally Sean Connery is the best.
Im 18 too btw so its not like im some sort of sick pedophile lol. Yup you didnt tell me anything i haddn't already known nice one.
Simplist and best explination I have ever got for this. Thanks this is really excellent and is going to up my game ALOT.
Cool.
Damn gota work on the delivery lol.
In order to be a natural gamer you have to change your values, beliefs. I make pick up a lifestyle not a method for getting women. EDITED by L.A. Tripp. Promoting another forum
Thanks that was not what i was thinking.
Can you elaborate? Pretty please?

9. I'm doing a bit of research on this question before I answer it...get back to you ASAP
Awsome thanks.


One more question.

Music and sex. Good/bad idea? And what genre evokes the feeling of passion, if there is one?

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Ratio theroy...

Okay, for answer number seven, be more specific as to what you want me to answer.

Specific about the best date I've ever been on? Like, you want the play-by-play breakdown?

Music and sex is great, but it's a little weird at first. You have to be the one to ensure that you're into it, and then she'll get into it. I've posted this fact before, but it has been an ultimate goal of mine for like four years to have sex to jock jams once before I die. I just think it would be hilarious.

I haven't forgotten about the one question I didn't answer...I'm consulting on it.

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L.A. Tripp: okay, here's your third chick. She's an actor, cute brunette, originally from Alabama. She's also a smartass, which is why I like her.

1. i would think that i deserve to be the center of attention with the guy and that the girl better back off
i guess i would think may the best woman win, and do something to really get his attention. i don't know...i kinda like the race to get a guy
but i think that maybe the guy should be competing for me...like with another guy, lol

2. ummm...it depends on what i am looking for at the time...but to be honest, sometimes i think that he will change his mind and want an exclusive relationship after he gets to know me. i think that he just doesn't know what he's in for

but i guess i would be a little offended or caught off guard if a guy didn't want to be with me and just me

3. i would have to at least see a picture of this girl.

but if i was at a point in my life where i wasn't looking for a commitment, then i might agree to it for the experience. but it would probably only be a one night thing for me

i would probably feel like a slut if i kept having threesomes over and over, i mean, i'm not attracted to women, so the only reason i would do it would probably just be to turn on the guy, or just to be able to say that i have had a threesome

4. i would probably be really into him for a few weeks but then want someone else
bc when someone gets too easy to have, you don't want them anymore

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Zip, hi sweets! This question is from phenomenal fortunehooks, as the name implies.

Do you think that MM, C&F, and all the routines that they entail are specifically geared towards women of European descent?

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i lust for jessica alba, but now since she is preggers. I am lusting for Nicole!!! It's New Year's Day. It was Ben Franklin who said, "Be always at war with your vices, at peace with your neighbors, and let each new year find you a better man."

Okay, now every girl I know wants to get in on this. This is the last one I will post, because it's from my two best girlfriends who are roommates. They are total babes and total badasses. They tag-team everything, so why not this?

1.
Girl 1: you just gotta win
who doesn't want to be chosen, you play the game smartly to win without being too in his face.
ZIP: can you think of a specific example
or like a hypothetical strategy
Girl 2: umm the night danielle came to the apt last year with tim....she tried too hard and Girl 1 one
also E. and Hickey...you made E. go crazy and you got the hookup
ZIP:
right, I forgot about that one. that was a good year.

2.
Girl 1: umm no... thats just shows someone that can't really commit to something.
or you also just add him as an MLTR and not get too tied in.
Girl 2: Question....are you filling out one of those things on Match.com or something?
ZIP: no. next question.

3.
Girl 1: this guy is sick
Girl 2: do you know this guy, can i date him?

4.
Girl 1: I mean i want to be able to stand on my own and make my own money... but not be the primary source, he is the male
Girl 2: HELL NO, I'M AN ACTOR. I NEED A SUGAR DADDY!

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Short Answer:

C&F. Yes. Absolutely. Incredibly specific.

MM. No, I think there are universal truths here that are non-exclusive.

However, I may not be the best person to answer this. Have you asked guys who have tried these methods on a variety of women? Does it work?

[Later Edit: after doing a bit of research and creating a few different theories, I'm going to concede that I am not the best person to further elucidate on this subject. Awesome question, but I know when to lead and when to follow ]

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LOL, am I getting popular or something? Hmm, good combo . . . total babe and total badass. I like that. And tag-teaming? That could be interesting . . . maybe they could actually keep up with me, since no one else has been able to so far. Play to win. Definitely my kind of girl. LMAO @ Match.com. Add the guys as an MLTR yourself? Hey, I don't see a problem with that. LMAO. She couldn't handle me. Hmmmmm, # 2 just wants a guy that will give her everything on a silver platter. Not for me, but interesting insight. # 1, you're the typical female. Ok, very interesting.

Thanks Zip. Much, much appreciated. Thanks for sharing these insightful posts. Very valuable input here.

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http://youtube.com/watch?v=4ufa-q7DcWM

Got another 2 for you.

#1 How would you feel, when you notice that some guy is really trying to use NLP patterns on you (this is diffirent from what NLP I do! mine goes off automatic and is a lot more natural). I'm really talking about the patterns and him actually using them to get you into bed.

#2 Can you tell if a guy is thinking about the interaction while he is doing it? For example, the guy is thinking about placing his hand on your shoulder or thinking about changing subject in the story. Could you tell that in advance?

oh and as a measuring point to #2
#3 what grade would you give your perceptive abilities compared to other women?

1) What sorts of bars/coffee shops/grocery stores do you most often frequent? Do you find that you're more receptive in clubs or pubs? Assuming the guy has _no game at all_, are you more willing to talk to an AFC in a bar or a mall?

2) AFCs get laid. Most of the time, they're not even accidentally following a Method. What are the very bare essentials to get right? What is the lowest common denominator that links the men you've slept with?

3) The Community Myth says that what a man looks like is unimportant. I personally disagree. To what degree does a man's appearance (apart from grooming; I'm talking about ugly, not greasy) effect the way you receive him?

That's all I can think of for right now. I'm sure I'll come up with more.

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1) why did you join this forum? do you like picking up women or do you like helping clueless guys or is it something else altogether?

2) so a guy i know (ok its me damn it!) has gained a few pounds around the belly in college. does this really detract from him or do women see men for their personality more so it wouldnt matter either way?

3) if someone you knew went to kiss you but you totally rejected it, would you feel completely awkward with the person forever or just accept it for what it is? (this is my biggest hesitation for girls i know)

4) what do you and a lot of your girlfriends find most attractive about guys? (physical or personality wise)

my internet is shoddy tonight, and all the questions I just answered were erased. I'll get to them tonight, but right now, I'm going out sarging in NY with some guys. I'll edit this later.

[edit: tonight was so informative...that I will get to your questions tomorrow...these guys were genius, and now it's 2:34am and I've got a date in twelve hours]

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1. I have no problem with a little NLP visualization used on one's self before a night out. Top athletes do this. I don't even mind if I notice a guy throwing back the same words I've used in conversation or mimicking me. However, if anyone starts running patters or anchoring a saltine in front of me to get me turned on, I will punch him in the face. I have a morality issue with using NLP to get women into the bedroom. I feel like it's cheating. What fun is playing Zelda on Super Nintendo if you've got a walkthrough? Yes, you win the game, but is it a real victory? (if someone can change my mind on this...go ahead and try. seriously)

2. I can always tell if a guy is trying to touch me. I can usually tell if the guy is trying to think about what to say next. This is mostly because I can read his body language and innately feel his physical tension, therefore associating it with what I know about the human mind and its physical consequences. Without all this knowledge, girls are innately able to pick up on this stuff... perhaps just subconsciously, but always be aware. Of course, some girls are so shy/nervous/selfish that they aren't thinking about anything except their own experience... so they'll have no clue you're about to touch her arm.

3. I wouldn't say that my perception is "better" than other women, I've just dedicated some time to studying and researching this stuff, so I'm able to articulate it in a way that is relatable to men. Let's see if my advise helps you guys, and then you can do the grading

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1.) I'm a bar girl. I like bars with either a totally relaxed or exotic SPAM or a bar that is packed, nasty, and spastic. Obviously, I prefer the former when I feel like my verbal game is on. The latter is a favorite when I know I'm not witty so I can get some game on with my physicality. Most of the time, dive bars and pubs are my favorite. Clubs are only for me to fuck around with people. I don't take anything seriously that happens in a club.

Generally, if I'm out shopping, running around during the day, going to a coffee shop...I'm not as easy to talk to because I'm fucking busy. At a bar, I'm receptive (generally.) It takes someone with a bit of panache to knock me out of my day routine.

However, a lot of my female friends are more receptive during the day than at night. They are under social pressure at bars, and therefore have a guard up. At the grocery store or at the mall, they are comfortable, in their element, and more open.

It depends on the personality of the woman, I suppose.

2.) This is extremely personal and probably only relevant for getting in my breeches, so I doubt this will be of much help to you. The LCD for guy's I've slept with is they all have some status in some community. They have social proof, and a lot of it. Most of them are trophies (some pretty gorgeous guys,) and some of them were not lookers. They were phenomenal in some other way. None of these guys have been PUA's, but they all had some sort of natural artistry about them.

Because I know this is an extreme point of view for a girl (I'm Southern and stingy, and it's hard to get in my skivvies,) I'm going to consult my harem of girl friends for their answers to this question.

3.) Okay, on dating websites...I'm not going to even look at your email if I am not attracted to your picture because I have that option. In person...DON'T GIVE ME THAT OPTION.

Honestly. I think looks matter to a degree. I don't hit on anyone who is below an 8. If a guy is approaching me, it doesn't matter how he looks...if he can build some attraction and challenge me...I don't care that he doesn't look like Brad Pitt. With good game, a guy causes my shallowness about appearance to be diametrically opposed to my attraction for him.

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LOL!

Personally, I agree with Mystery, I think NLP is more entertaining than hypnotic (although there’s probably some overlap there). So, I don’t think stimulating a woman’s emotions (especially sexual emotions) via the use of language is really cheating – well not in my book. And, what woman wouldn’t want her neurons blown way, any way?

I’m gonna enter the Two-Minute Attraction Challenge using a combination of NLP and sexual metaphors, should be a laugh... might even try it in the field