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hey, thanks for doing this, its real nice to pick at your brain cause i imagine youve got some game.

1. do you use passive role play(talking about the roles in the future, ex: your gonna come over and bring me gifts and make me dinner...) as part of your game? if so whats the best way to transition from a norm convo to a role play without sounding too weird?

2. how do you make conversations more and more sexual while having her actually participate in it as well

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Hey Ryan I got a question for you..

I started gaming a few weeks ago after I read MM. I would mostly go to bars/clubs but I recently attempted daygame and have run into this problem...

I will open a set on my college campus, neg the target, then get a conversation going. Sometimes I will number close but I can almost never get a 2nd date when I do close.

When I go to bars on the weekends I find it much easier to build comfort with girls because I have more time to spend with them. In the daytime people are busier since they have places to go, things to get done etc. So it's not like I have 30 mins to build comfort with a girl. How do I get around this?


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hey, thanks for doing this, its real nice to pick at your brain cause i imagine youve got some game.

1. do you use passive role play(talking about the roles in the future, ex: your gonna come over and bring me gifts and make me dinner...) as part of your game? if so whats the best way to transition from a norm convo to a role play without sounding too weird?

2. how do you make conversations more and more sexual while having her actually participate in it as well

thanks
Good questions!

1. I would call what you described two things - it's sort of role play - although role play for me would be slightly more far fetched and sexual (e.g. dressing her up a certain way and spanking her, etc.) but it's also future projection. In answer to that, I will use future projection a lot. In the initial pickup I'll try to find out stuff she likes and we're both into, so then I can ask her, has she been to X place or heard Y music or eaten Z food, if the answer is ever "no," then it's easy to say - holy shit we gotta goto this place it has the most amazing X, and then set up a potential day 2 right there based on that, or at least have a REASON to be getting her number and contacting her again, even if you don't end up doing that specific thing.

2. The question game http://www.sashapua.com/blog/the-question-game.html is a great day 2 little technique that you can turn sexual within the first few questions. I've gotten almost every single girl to talk about sex without batting an eyelid or thinking anything of it. In normal conversation, and on the initial pickup, using sexual innuendo when you're bantering and teasing her is the simplest, most effective way to sexualise the conversation in a normal, fun, playful and socially acceptable and calibrated manner.

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Hi Ryan! Thanks so much for taking the time out to answer our questions.

I'm a recovering BAFC and have been out gaming over the past couple of months and have been amazed at the progress I've made simply by changing my body language and getting my inner game right. What a difference an alpha state of mind can make!

Anyways, I wanted to ask you a question about a target from my AFC days who had an interesting reaction to the "new" me.

I had quite a big crush on her for a long time and tried the usual AFC tactics to win her over but to no avail. After a lot of reading and soul searching, I realized I was developing oneitis and did what most folks suggest to cure it: cut her off, move on and keep gaming other girls.

A few months went by and she messaged me out of the blue asking why I never talk to her anymore or ever want to see her. I didn't want to needlessly waste any time or effort on what I considered a lost cause at that point, so I immediately asked her out to see a movie with some friends and I and she flaked at the last minute. I left it at that and kept it moving.

A few weeks later, I saw her at a friend's birthday party. I knew she was going to be there, so I made sure my frame was rock solid and got myself into a good state of mind before going out. This resulted in some unsolicited female attention at the bar and all round good times. In short, I had a great night! But here's the thing... She was pissed. So much so that she left while I was at the bar ordering drinks about an hour after I got there. After she left, mutual friends told me she was furious that I had been ignoring her and left because she couldn't stand it anymore. I had been more than cordial that night and friends told me I was being awesome and that whatever the problem was it was with her and not me.

She clearly wasn't interested when she first caught my attention but since I've cut her off and focused on making myself a better person, she has been acting like a jealous ex-girlfriend. What troubles me most is that she ran around telling all our mutual friends that I was ignoring her and that I never want to see her, even after I invited her out when she originally messaged me.

I haven't let this slow me down and I've made sure to keep gaming other girls to ensure I don't relapse to my old AFC thinking. But this sort of thing hasn't happened to me before and I'm unsure what to make of it.

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Hey Ryan I got a question for you..

I started gaming a few weeks ago after I read MM. I would mostly go to bars/clubs but I recently attempted daygame and have run into this problem...

I will open a set on my college campus, neg the target, then get a conversation going. Sometimes I will number close but I can almost never get a 2nd date when I do close.

When I go to bars on the weekends I find it much easier to build comfort with girls because I have more time to spend with them. In the daytime people are busier since they have places to go, things to get done etc. So it's not like I have 30 mins to build comfort with a girl. How do I get around this?
I don't think building comfort is really the issue here.

The best ways to make your day 2s more solid are

(1) Get her to invest more in the initial interaction
(2) Make your follow up unique and interesting


(1) The ways to get her to invest more are:

(i) Using qualification effectively - use screening questions, banter, teasing, storytelling and questions-as-statements to try to bring out the qualities in her that you find interesting and attractive, and then give her a sincere compliment about the ones you actually like.

(ii) Set up the date before you get the number. If you've done (i) effectively, then you should have hit upon at least one common interest that you guys share. That's a perfect opportunity to say that you guys have to meet up soon for the purposes of sharing the enjoyment of that very common interest, whether it be going to a wine tasting or cooking class, checking out the new raw vegan cafe in your local area, seeing a great band perform live, or playing pool in a quirky dive bar. You don't even have to end up doing that particular thing - the important thing is that you're future projecting, so she's imagining herself doing things with you, and she feels much more committed to meeting you at a certain place and time to do something, than just agreeing to "meeting for a drink sometime."


(2) Following on from (1)(ii), if you don't get the chance to establish a common interest and set up the date based on that, then you've become just another guy texting her trying to get her out, regardless of how fun your initial approach was. That means you have to continue to hook her with unique and interesting shit until you get her out. You can choose to CALL - if you can have a fun conversation with plenty of banter and a funny story or two, then you can build more of a connection and get a day 2 towards the end of the call. OR, if you don't like the phone (a good idea is to practice so you ARE comfortable on the phone anyway!) or you're just too busy, then just make sure your initial texts GIVE value and ask for nothing in return. Just something random and funny initially. When she gets back to you, then is the time to invite her to something NO OTHER GUY is asking her to:

– Invite her to an open mic night at a local bar, where you challenge her to a poetry slam and have to read out a poem each and see who gets the most applause. Loser buys the round of drinks

– Take her on a "re-live your childhood" adventure where you go to an amusement park or arcade, followed by ice cream or frozen yoghurt

– Go on a walk around an area you love and know well, hitting a cafe, park or little gem or attraction that's not particularly well known.


Most of these ideas are free or relatively cheap, but they're fun, involve at least some movement, social interaction, the opportunity to "DHV," and, most importantly, are memorable, interesting, and will pique her curiosity and spike her emotions.


Combining (1) and (2) together should really help solidify your numbers, reduce flakes, and make the first few times you spend together memorable enough to ensure you can successfully close and hopefully date the women that you desire - let us know how it goes!

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Hi Ryan! Thanks so much for taking the time out to answer our questions.

I'm a recovering BAFC and have been out gaming over the past couple of months and have been amazed at the progress I've made simply by changing my body language and getting my inner game right. What a difference an alpha state of mind can make!

Anyways, I wanted to ask you a question about a target from my AFC days who had an interesting reaction to the "new" me.

I had quite a big crush on her for a long time and tried the usual AFC tactics to win her over but to no avail. After a lot of reading and soul searching, I realized I was developing oneitis and did what most folks suggest to cure it: cut her off, move on and keep gaming other girls.

A few months went by and she messaged me out of the blue asking why I never talk to her anymore or ever want to see her. I didn't want to needlessly waste any time or effort on what I considered a lost cause at that point, so I immediately asked her out to see a movie with some friends and I and she flaked at the last minute. I left it at that and kept it moving.

A few weeks later, I saw her at a friend's birthday party. I knew she was going to be there, so I made sure my frame was rock solid and got myself into a good state of mind before going out. This resulted in some unsolicited female attention at the bar and all round good times. In short, I had a great night! But here's the thing... She was pissed. So much so that she left while I was at the bar ordering drinks about an hour after I got there. After she left, mutual friends told me she was furious that I had been ignoring her and left because she couldn't stand it anymore. I had been more than cordial that night and friends told me I was being awesome and that whatever the problem was it was with her and not me.

She clearly wasn't interested when she first caught my attention but since I've cut her off and focused on making myself a better person, she has been acting like a jealous ex-girlfriend. What troubles me most is that she ran around telling all our mutual friends that I was ignoring her and that I never want to see her, even after I invited her out when she originally messaged me.

I haven't let this slow me down and I've made sure to keep gaming other girls to ensure I don't relapse to my old AFC thinking. But this sort of thing hasn't happened to me before and I'm unsure what to make of it.

What gives?
You already know the answer because you actually said it in your post - she's jealous! As an "AFC," you gave her a lot of validation very easily. Although she may have turned you down, she still liked the attention you gave her so freely, even if she didn't want to reciprocate it. Now, she sees you getting attention from other females, and you've stopped giving her that validation, she wants it back, and wonders what those other girls have that she doesn't. If you were ever interested in dating this girl, now would be the perfect time to do so. At the next party you see her, simply give her back a bit more of that attention, throw one compliment her way, and then banter, tease, and flirt like you would any girl, whilst not focusing too much time on her, and also talking to others, especially girls, and the likelihood is, she'll end up chasing and trying to isolate YOU. From there it's just a matter of escalating and you should be fine!

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Hi Ryan! Thanks so much for taking the time out to answer our questions.

I'm a recovering BAFC and have been out gaming over the past couple of months and have been amazed at the progress I've made simply by changing my body language and getting my inner game right. What a difference an alpha state of mind can make!

Anyways, I wanted to ask you a question about a target from my AFC days who had an interesting reaction to the "new" me.

I had quite a big crush on her for a long time and tried the usual AFC tactics to win her over but to no avail. After a lot of reading and soul searching, I realized I was developing oneitis and did what most folks suggest to cure it: cut her off, move on and keep gaming other girls.

A few months went by and she messaged me out of the blue asking why I never talk to her anymore or ever want to see her. I didn't want to needlessly waste any time or effort on what I considered a lost cause at that point, so I immediately asked her out to see a movie with some friends and I and she flaked at the last minute. I left it at that and kept it moving.

A few weeks later, I saw her at a friend's birthday party. I knew she was going to be there, so I made sure my frame was rock solid and got myself into a good state of mind before going out. This resulted in some unsolicited female attention at the bar and all round good times. In short, I had a great night! But here's the thing... She was pissed. So much so that she left while I was at the bar ordering drinks about an hour after I got there. After she left, mutual friends told me she was furious that I had been ignoring her and left because she couldn't stand it anymore. I had been more than cordial that night and friends told me I was being awesome and that whatever the problem was it was with her and not me.

She clearly wasn't interested when she first caught my attention but since I've cut her off and focused on making myself a better person, she has been acting like a jealous ex-girlfriend. What troubles me most is that she ran around telling all our mutual friends that I was ignoring her and that I never want to see her, even after I invited her out when she originally messaged me.

I haven't let this slow me down and I've made sure to keep gaming other girls to ensure I don't relapse to my old AFC thinking. But this sort of thing hasn't happened to me before and I'm unsure what to make of it.

What gives?
You already know the answer because you actually said it in your post - she's jealous! As an "AFC," you gave her a lot of validation very easily. Although she may have turned you down, she still liked the attention you gave her so freely, even if she didn't want to reciprocate it. Now, she sees you getting attention from other females, and you've stopped giving her that validation, she wants it back, and wonders what those other girls have that she doesn't. If you were ever interested in dating this girl, now would be the perfect time to do so. At the next party you see her, simply give her back a bit more of that attention, throw one compliment her way, and then banter, tease, and flirt like you would any girl, whilst not focusing too much time on her, and also talking to others, especially girls, and the likelihood is, she'll end up chasing and trying to isolate YOU. From there it's just a matter of escalating and you should be fine!
My man... Thanks for the detailed breakdown. :)


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What is you're favorite fruit and why ?

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What indirect openers work the best? especially on UK stuck up girls!
I have tried direct openers and it has only got about 60% pass rate..

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I don't eat that much fruit because I try to avoid all forms of sugar and carbohydrates. However, blueberries are rich in antioxidants and delicious too, so I'll go with those. Excellent question by the way :wink:

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What indirect openers work the best? especially on UK stuck up girls!
I have tried direct openers and it has only got about 60% pass rate..
First off, if you're getting a 60% rate going direct, then you're definitely doing something right because that is pretty high! In general, direct isn't so much about making sure every set opens - it's about filtering away the girls who aren't interested quickly, whilst massively spiking the attraction levels of those that are. There are some girls who would never sleep with you, regardless of how you open. Opening indirectly just means they might continue to talk to you politely for a while before eventually rejecting you anyway. Opening directly means they have no choice but to reject you immediately, saving you time to open a girl who IS interested in you.

If, for some reason, you still feel opening indirectly is a better thing to do, then the most natural indirect openers are either something situational, or just "hi."

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HI RYAN,

CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR MODERATION POST! PRESENTLY ON THE 150TH PAGE OF "THE GAME". I DO FIND IT QUITE LUCRATIVE ESPECIALLY MYSTERY'S CONCEPT. USING THE SAME I MANAGED TO KISS AND NECK UP A GIRL THE FIRST NIGHT WE MET, AFTER A LONG AND HUMOROUS CONVERSATION. DROPPED HER HOME TO A CAB AND EXCHANGED NUMBERS. SHE MESSSAGES ME THE NEXT MORNING ASKING IF I HAD THE NUMBER. I MESSAGED HER LATER IN THE EVENING ASKING HER TO STEP OUT FOR A BIT OR A DRINK LATER IN THE WEEK. NOTICED THAT SHE SUDDENLY WENT COLD ON ME. I GENERALLY DEPLOY THE 2 DAY RULE OF WAITING AND THEN MESSAGING OR CALLING, BUT IN THIS CASE SINCE I HAD ALREADY BROKE THE ICE, DID NOT FEEL THE NEED TO. SHE RESPONDS THE NEXT DAY SAYING- HI, HAD A FUN EVENING ALSO. I AM BUSY MOST OF THE WEEK BUT LETS KEEP IN TOUCH :-). THAT WAS HER DITO MESSAGE. DO YOU THINK SHE IS BLOWING ME AWAY- I CANT UNDERSTAND, GOOD GOING AND NOW IM SITTING ON THE ROCKS?


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HI RYAN,

CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR MODERATION POST! PRESENTLY ON THE 150TH PAGE OF "THE GAME". I DO FIND IT QUITE LUCRATIVE ESPECIALLY MYSTERY'S CONCEPT. USING THE SAME I MANAGED TO KISS AND NECK UP A GIRL THE FIRST NIGHT WE MET, AFTER A LONG AND HUMOROUS CONVERSATION. DROPPED HER HOME TO A CAB AND EXCHANGED NUMBERS. SHE MESSSAGES ME THE NEXT MORNING ASKING IF I HAD THE NUMBER. I MESSAGED HER LATER IN THE EVENING ASKING HER TO STEP OUT FOR A BIT OR A DRINK LATER IN THE WEEK. NOTICED THAT SHE SUDDENLY WENT COLD ON ME. I GENERALLY DEPLOY THE 2 DAY RULE OF WAITING AND THEN MESSAGING OR CALLING, BUT IN THIS CASE SINCE I HAD ALREADY BROKE THE ICE, DID NOT FEEL THE NEED TO. SHE RESPONDS THE NEXT DAY SAYING- HI, HAD A FUN EVENING ALSO. I AM BUSY MOST OF THE WEEK BUT LETS KEEP IN TOUCH :-). THAT WAS HER DITO MESSAGE. DO YOU THINK SHE IS BLOWING ME AWAY- I CANT UNDERSTAND, GOOD GOING AND NOW IM SITTING ON THE ROCKS?
Your follow up was boring, and the same kind of thing she gets from all the other 245,958 guys who are texting her trying to get her out. She did obviously like you enough to make sure you had her number - that was the time to CALL, and build more of a connection, as well as setting up a solid date over the phone, at a certain time and place, to do something a little bit different and interesting.

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So I been talkin to this chick that lives two house down from me. Everythigs been going smooth tho we haven't had sex yet. I'm in no rush because she's right there. However last time I snuck her over my house( I live with parents) she hit me with major LMR. It was 3 a.m and she was "tired". I followed this up with indifference. And politely told her she could leave. Then she really wanted me bad. I still proceeded to have her leave.

Ever since then she's been texting and calling me like a pyscho. I ignored for a 2 days an kept our convo's short. Just today I texted her something in the morning. She loved it and wrote me back a lot of lovey shit lol. I felt like I gave her too much attention to fast because he text slowly got shorter and shorter.

I wonder if I should pull back a bit again or just plow through by calling her tonight to hang out so she can have the pleasure of fucking me? Her Facebook status also says her parents are outta town for the next few days. So she has open house. Should i just let her contact me?


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So I been talkin to this chick that lives two house down from me. Everythigs been going smooth tho we haven't had sex yet. I'm in no rush because she's right there. However last time I snuck her over my house( I live with parents) she hit me with major LMR. It was 3 a.m and she was "tired". I followed this up with indifference. And politely told her she could leave. Then she really wanted me bad. I still proceeded to have her leave.

Ever since then she's been texting and calling me like a pyscho. I ignored for a 2 days an kept our convo's short. Just today I texted her something in the morning. She loved it and wrote me back a lot of lovey shit lol. I felt like I gave her too much attention to fast because he text slowly got shorter and shorter.

I wonder if I should pull back a bit again or just plow through by calling her tonight to hang out so she can have the pleasure of fucking me? Her Facebook status also says her parents are outta town for the next few days. So she has open house. Should i just let her contact me?
Sounds like you played hard to get just right and she's chasing you. Careful though - too much pushing her away and she could get frustrated or lose interest. I would send her something random, get into a little text exchange, and then if she doesn't spontaneously invite you over, suggest bringing over wine and a DVD to hers or something like that.

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