I laughed because you were actually right. I keep hoping the guy would stop linking everything to this anti women stuff but you're right. It's fruitless. Dudes are hooking up with girls at college, many guys aren't though but the way joe tells it, college campuses are feminist central and anti player. Which doesn't make sense if girls are riding this cock carousel in their early twenties lol. Maybe they're hooking up with just the alphas and making feminist placards on their off days. Haha it just never makes sense. We get it...feminism is everywhere to screw you over.

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Quote me once where I said OP should change his looks. Quote me once where I even assumed anything about OP's looks. Where I said OP's priority should be his looks. I've listed social skills, discipline, looks, creepiness, awkwardness over and over, and you keep coming back to looks.
You're all over the place, hence I can't even respond with logic. When I said I'd done a gangbang, you said you considered that gay, then went to post a video of a gangbang. Why the fuck would you even have that video or be concerned with watching that shit? Is that to prove that Dave was a fun guy during sex so he got laid? Kinda the chicken or the egg thing. Please post something where his personality got him laid, before showing his personality while getting laid.
You have all these vids and memes or gifs or whatever they are. If Zyzz or dave got girls from anything besides looks, just show a vid or something, heck even a FR of where they fucked a girl that didnt come easy. Not saying it didn't happen, I highly doubt it though, but I youtube searched and could find nothing else but them showing off their bodies to get girls. So if they didn't just show it.

I get it Joe. If I say I'm in relationship, you say I don't do PU so screw my opinion. If I say I'm single, you'd have said well I can't get a girl so my opinion doesnt matter. If I was Zyzz, you'd say I can't relate to the OP. If I was like the OP, you'd say blind leading the blind. If I had awesome infield, youd say I paid actresses. f I were Tyler, you'd say I was misogynistic so it doesnt matter. I shouldnt give advice because I get laid easily, but Zyzz who you said gets laid easier than I do, should give advice? You change your criteria everytime to suit your anti women/marriage rhetoric. Heck, when I posted a pic of a lay in the old thread, you said it was my girl and I had no respect for her or some bs. When I was ready to post multiple pics of different chicks, you said you posted one that no one saw. When I said I was in my late 20's you changed being in your mid 20's to say you were older. When I say I've been in a rs for 6 months, you say things have changed...yet go on to talk about decades old books with knowledge, and dudes who have died. So if shit has changed so much in 6 months, fine, then at least only quote month old "updated" material. That's like telling a man in his 40's he cant tell you about women because things have changed, then you go on to quote your grandpa's player lesson. It's like arguing with a ghost or a child. I can argue with V or fudge because they have some kinda structure, you'll just change the goal post. Ironically, all the anti woman stuff you say, this is how women argue. Without logic and changing criteria. Logic would say if a guy who gets laid shouldnt offer advice, Zyzz shouldnt. That's at least a fair logical statement.

And please, stop quoting me talking about social skills and responding with looks talk. Then asking questions like am I saying my gf will pick a better looking guy. I never said looks were everything. I never said girls ride a cock carousel. I gave advice on social skills and argued against the cc myth so why ask me questions you know I don't agree with.

You can't have it both ways. You say women are selfish and men have to feed into female privilege. That's your view, but even by that logic, you're the one closer to saying then OP would have to change something right? Can't say women just want to fuck the alphas (aka cock carousel) and then say the guy has a chance by just approaching. That's your logic, not mine. I dont share your negative views about women or the world, but at least know what you're about and what criteria you have before arguing something. You've admitted to being confused about dating and women, so thats why you're all over the place logically.

He's all over the place because he just wants to get an opposing stance to you in order to write walls of text on a forum that he calls useless. Guys who think they are above people that are doing something while participating in the exact same action they are bashing people for amuse me. It's like they don't see it.

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You both should get a room with all that you have in common. Interestingly, neither of you do PU. One has not left his apartment in 2015. The other is in a relationship and states his skills has not declined because he flirts with his gf. Too funny.

The "one who has not left his apartment" spent the last 26 days mastering online business, and now probably makes more money than you while he does nothing. He also now has unlimited income potential and a bright future ahead of him which will include going out cold approaching and if you read what he put on the "why day-game fails" thread you can't even consider what he does in field as a "cold approach".

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That same "one who has not left his apartment" offered to have girls hang out with you on his behalf on a contingent that you bring girls with you so you aren't trying to game his girls of give them a bad time, and you refused citing ridiculousness and magic carpets, when in fact I believe you refused because you can't get a girl to hang out with you, and/or keep the women I send your way entertained because all you know how to do is screen for women who are already interested in you.

Yeah, this is definitely my last post in this thread. The OP is already taking steps and I will help him 100x more than you are capable of.

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and demonstrate to all of us what’s really possible. I learn what those few
extraordinary individuals do that’s different from everybody else, and then emulate
them.

I will follow your advice, be single like you, have one itis over a chick I met one time and then when she doesn't pick up my calls, give bad advice online while idolizing Tyler and X guru. I'll say forums are shit, yet know about every forum out there. Fudge made you an offer, you sidestepped it. I challenged you and posted pics, you sidestepped that and werent even man enough to keep your word. All this PU talk and you dont even have a picture to prove anything nor would you let fudge show you. You'll find a girl one day, first stop following Tyler, and stop being jealous of guys who have a girl while you try to find one yourself. The dudes who hate women like you do are the dudes who have none. I sincerely hope you get laid and become happy. Don't hate me because the chick you wanted to be monogamous with didn't take. There will always be more women out there.

Could you post one of these? Because I've watched about ten, and none of them are even close.
Want to see this as well.

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I'm subbed. There's a new one titled almost got stabbed or something

^ I'm just interested in seeing what Fudge is saying are near misses. All I've seen are sinking stones that never had a chance.
That was THIS kid, lol
Because he was being creepy and telling people he's into black magic and casting spells on them.

The problem is you read too many hand wringing MGTOW and MRA screeches about how fat chicks are keeping them down. Living primarily in the Midwest and South, I have literally never even MET an activist feminist in my time going places where there are women. I have met just a couple from work travels. But it would be literally impossible for one to cause any issue with me, as they aren't even present where I'm active.

Feminism is a boogie man, like Al Qaeda and ISIS. They are not a threat to almost anyone in America. Yes, they claim an occasional victim, but it's a long, long shot. It would be like being crippled with fear every time you eat, because hundreds of people die every year from food poisoning.

I'll never understand why some guys have bizarre fantasies about battling feminists and defeating them. These things don't actually occur in real life. No one deals with them, and neither will you.

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Nah. I got into a relationship, I flirt with my gf so, my game wont go down. Wait wut?

Yeah...it looked all bad to me too.

To Joe's comment since it can help other guys...Your game shouldnt go down in a relationship. Picking up girls is not a difficult task for most guys. It's approach, be somewhat cool, don't be needy, be attractive, make moves and be good at escalation/sex. The difficulty comes for most guys in that they don't look at what's not working and adjust accordingly. Instead of working out, most stay slobs. Instead of working on basic social skills, most focus on more routines and more approaches. Where guys lose skills in a relationship is when they make the girl the center of their lives. The lose the simple skills that got the girl in the first place so it's harder when they leave one. They stopped dressing nicely, they stopped doing the fun things they'd do with friends, they stop being aggressive in bed so as not to offend her. Hence, when the girl is gone, all the little things have already withered away months ago.

Every rs you get into, should make you better when you leave it. If you got a 7 and were fucking her, you should be accustomed to 7's and only attracted to 8's and aboves now. Your less impressed by 7's, they feel this, so they're easier to get. Even something as simple as style, a good gf will want you to be your best. Chicks have taught me how to dress better, so even when shit doesnt work out, I'm getting more compliments on my style and its easier to get the next one. I look back at the gf I considered a 10 years ago and she's a 7 now. It's like if you were learning guitar, would you learn more if you practiced on a guitar at your friends place 4 times a week, or if you had your own? Some guys may not like relationships, and that's fine. Do what makes you happy. But don't be afraid to lose your skills if you do it right and never forget who's number one...you. Every guy who says they lost skills after a relationship, can admit that it wasnt being in a relationship that did it, it was because they neglected parts of who they were. As a side note, if you are new to PU, my advice wouldnt be to jump into a rs. Learn how to interact with women to the point where you have some REAL options, and then keep being that attractive guy, not for her, but for yourself.
I've never met one. And that's midwest, south and east coast. Girls are more passionate about recycling that feminism imo.

I agree. There's this thinking that you get worse while in relationships. I think this may be somewhat true for spam approaching and SNLs. Or if you find yourself in a relationship where she becomes your world and you lose social ties.

But if you continue to have a social life and don't live and breathe game... no. Much like you, my girls have only helped me along the way. Being with just a few girls over a longer time span, has actually made me more dynamic. I have a first date template that is somewhat flexible, but doesn't vary much. It's effective, but I can't say I grow much, when using it. Seeing the same girls? That forces a lot more change. We need to go to new places, do new things, have different conversations. I would get bored to death of them, doing those few things all the time.

I can't even begin to tell you how much better it made me with sex. Had I been doing a string of ONS, I barely would have improved at all. Getting to know several women, very intimately, and really learning how to turn them on, and get them off, eventually leads to you being able to pick up very quickly with any woman. But it's not something I ever would have learned outside of extended sexual relationships.

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The environment you live in does not happen to have many feminists but, this does not negate the facts. The facts remain, any large city has a high volume of people, and with that comes feminism. I posted a few links that warned security of areas with high volume of PUAs. One kid mentioned being kicked off a college campus. The advice he got was to do PU at a black college. Serious, wtf?
Well, tell that to anybody in Canada, the Uk, Australia, and a variety of other areas trying to do a rsd boot camp or free tour. On campus, it is predominantly females paying for rubbish college programs with no jobs to follow (make up and nails lol). Therefore, college security is enforcing the protection of their cash cows.
Honestly, the majority of guys posting in this thread do not go out, think game is maintained because they "firt with their gf," another has not left their home this year, and others are delusional despite an entire PU company being prevented from entering more than a handful of countries. Of course, feminism had nothing to do with anything there, and it must be a figment of the imagination.

Tell that to the rsd accountants and book keepers. JB world tour... pretty much consists of America and a fee European countries that will allow his entry.

Almost as ridiculous as the guy talking about not leaving his apartment while going off topic on random tangent with his two cents on game.

Lets put it this way Neo; if your girlfriend cheats, dumps you, you "mutually breakup," she shows up to the bar you are at; guaranteed, she is getting more attention then you. This is not even debatable. Women do not drop in ability to get guys until they worry about their biological clock and get desperate. Even if she packs on weight, men will still be showing her more attention then women will be showing you.
And yet, here you are Mr monogamous. That is the thing with PU. Everyone has their two cents. Nobody is putting up vids like Zyzz or Yaboydave. People in PU on forums never do that or they put up stuff that is not comparable or even close to Dave or Zyzz and everyone attacks the guy in the video with their two cents. Lets assume V still goes out. The other two do not go out; one does not leave his home and the other thinks game is flirting with his gf. What?
That is like me saying my game went up because I flirted with a fwb. The one thing I can agree with you is that most guys do not stick with this consistently be it work, college, monogamous relationship no diss, and a variety of other excuses. Most guys become weak once in the company of a relationship and their feelings take over.
it should but, this is not the way of things most times. After a breakup, are you always better off because you dated her or spent how much of your life with a specific woman? What I tend to do is just enjoy it for what it is. Acknowledge that the time is fragile, it is not necessarily forever (even if you were married or to spend the rest of your life with someone till you die). After a failed marriage, would you say men are better off?
I know what you are saying but, I disagree. I was never about chasing down just looks. If you are going to settle down with a girl, she should be 10/10 on the inside first and foremost. In terms of looks, if you are attracted to her, who gives a fuck what anybody else thinks. If you dropped a woman who was better looking than your girl but, she was not 10/10 on the inside, even if she was a 10 in looks, you would have downgraded. This is the case with "trophy wives."
Its cool women may want to talk a bout fashion or style but, I never let that dictate or change what I am about. Its different if they get a gift or buy me an outfit.


Anyway, this is pointless. We simply do not agree. Contrary to the unpopular opinion I provide, i would rather wing with 007 than the three I have responded to because of his ambition to get better. Its cool you have a gf but, if you are not going out, I do not see how you would even maintain it. Even if you did, you have something to lean back on for security. If you are single, you have to do that and pursue regardless.

This shit stopped being funny now. It's scary. This sounds like serious brainwashing.

Joe the thread you are referring to none of that happened. The kid was asked for ID by an officer because some girls reported him, not for hitting on them for talking about black magic. He was never kicked out. No one in the thread told him to go to a black college. This was blatantly changing the events that happened to the kid and in the thread. This is the problem with your advice, it's not based on facts. You completely changed the reality of the kids situation. Please man, jokes aside...stay away from that mgtow stuff. It's one thing to see it in everything but to actually change events in your mind to make their argument? Wtf... Don't know about anyone else but that shit is scary and I seriously hope you're just trolling