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From my experience of going out in the city I live in these are the type of girls I see out.

1. Party Girls w/ large groups of friends
2. Girls with extremely high bitch shields that do not talk at all (girls with family background ethnic italian/greeks) - Also extreme believers in not being a slut
3. Couples
4. Tourists (very rare)
5. Looking back over the past 3yrs of going out a very small percentage of ONS girls either that I didn't approach or I failed to pull because they refused to even though they were horny.

Numbers 2 & 3 are not possible. 1. Escalation and isolation required IMO, 4. Best chance of getting laid, 5. Very rare and hard to spot

I have tried Stelar's pattern only one night so far.

Firstly .. this question is directed mostly at Stelar but anyone who feels they can answer it. If I can't spot any girls looking for ONS do I use the same line using the word "fuck" but then get the number? and if I am only talking to them for a few minutes how will they remember me? Or does the baldness take care of that?

Secondly if I am using this pattern will escalation help your chances or hinder them for a ONS, Or has no effect? Example below

A week and a half ago I used this pattern on a girl interested in me but she wasn't ready to leave the club yet at 1am and wanted to stay with her friends. I left because I was tired after 3nights out in a row HOWEVER she had agreed to fuck me, I did not read between the lines + ready to go home.

I didn't escalate and didn't kiss close (is this bad?) and I now find it impossible to meet up with this girl. I have tried twice and she has been busy plus she does not contact me its only me contacting her and I have decided to stop contacting her now because I feel like I have fucked up something that was guaranteed initially.

Thirdly can I recover from this situation with this girl?

3questions in this post I hope someone can answer them.
If she is not there to fuck , change the "fuck you" part with "know you".

I keep repeating myself.

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If she is not there to fuck , change the "fuck you" part with "know you".

I keep repeating myself.

Look up my posts , I have covered everything.
But then you are just complimenting her and there's nothing bald in what you are saying? I agree this works to get numbers but won't majority of the time be a flake if all you are saying is "[insert line]... and I want to get to know you what is your number?"

And seriously no escalation??? I thought this would help your chances no?

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What you failed to do is realize it was maxed out and enjoy it anyways. The resistance became the focus point.
It's funny that you wrote this, I actually came to the forum now to write something along the lines of: because she didn't let me bang her we ended up making out / talking for about 6 hours straight. If we just did it, we would probably be finished in 30 minutes and just fall asleep right afterwards. So it really wasn't that bad at all maybe even better. She was highly erotic, we just kept playing with each other for hours on hours... penetration would have killed it.
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If she is not there to fuck , change the "fuck you" part with "know you".

I keep repeating myself.

Look up my posts , I have covered everything.
But then you are just complimenting her and there's nothing bald in what you are saying? I agree this works to get numbers but won't majority of the time be a flake if all you are saying is "[insert line]... and I want to get to know you what is your number?"

And seriously no escalation??? I thought this would help your chances no?
After I say I want to "know her" I actually ask questions about herself and get rapport. no routines needed + but on the same time you are being sexual.

If i wanted to fuck her then i would use the "fuck" word. ONLY IF I WANTED TO FUCK HER. SPECIALLY AFTER 3 AM.

I ESCALATE IN BOTH OF THEM. YOU ARE TAKING IT VERY LITERALLY. GET THE ESSENCE.

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Thanks that makes sense I was taking it too literally. I think that if they react well to my number close I will push escalation as far as I want it to go and always end on a note of "I am not going to apologize for what I want but i won't force you to do anything whatever your comfortable with."

The basics as I understand it of SNL would be before 2-3am, Get number in opener EDIT: (i think this will stop you wasting time if shes just being friendly + you won't miss chance if she ejects back to her friends and you forgot to number close) .. stay in set with her and escalate and build rapport as far as you want. After 3am switch up to shock n awe and use the takeaways, and being bald.

@phangan - If you create this post please include concepts to avoid the day2 flakes because not everyone lives in areas where women are looking for ONS straight up. e.g. can escalating too far in a club create flakes because they are drunk or has no effect? + your thoughts on why women flake as this all relates to ONS even if it is a day2.

My understanding is that its either
1. You did not escalate, she cbf meeting you, she was drunk and only partially remembers you, no rapport.
2. You escalated too far in a club (way past k-close) and did not give her the feeling that she can leave your side anytime (safeness). I would perform this when I'm hit with any resistance to avoid it blowing up in my face.

Saying something like "I don't want to do anything your not ready to do but I will continue unless you tell me. SO make sure you mean it"

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A day2 flake means you didn't spend enough time making a real connection, she hasn't invested enough time with you or flat out you simply didn't impress her enough and she's not interested. I can't imagine spending 30-40 minutes or more with a girl and she would flake.... never happened to me. I'd say never go for the number before you spend at least 20 minutes talking, unless you or her must leave and there is no other option. I'd say that if you makeout with the girl then you should put more time before you take the number, so she doesn't feel like you "used her". So if you don't makeout - taking the number after 20-25 minutes minimum, but if you makeout heavily, I'd wait at least 40 minutes before taking the number.

TO REDUCE FLAKES:

1) After you take the number - ALWAYS stay there for another 3-5 minutes, so it doesn't seem like all you wanted is the number and now once you have it, you want to leave. Take the number, STAY IN for 5 minutes, then leave.

2) of course while taking the number you can / should also ROOT a future plan, "we can do this and that" or whatever, so when you contact her you already "made plans" for something specific.

Of course, there are always exceptions, you could makeout with a girl within a minute, take her number after another minute, and she'd still meet you... but generally speaking I think the above applies.
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From my experience of going out in the city I live in these are the type of girls I see out.

1. Party Girls w/ groups of friends (MAJORITY)
2. Girls with extremely high bitch shields that do not talk at all (girls with family background ethnic italian/greeks) - Also extreme believers in not being a slut
3. Couples
4. Tourists (very rare)
5. Looking back over the past 3yrs of going out a very small percentage of ONS girls either that I didn't approach or I failed to pull because they refused to even though they were horny.

Numbers 2 & 3 are not possible. 1. Escalation and isolation required IMO, 4. Best chance of getting laid, 5. Very rare and hard to spot

I have tried Stelar's pattern only one night so far.

Firstly .. this question is directed mostly at Stelar but anyone who feels they can answer it. If I can't spot any girls looking for ONS do I use the same line using the word "fuck" but then get the number? and if I am only talking to them for a few minutes how will they remember me? Or does the baldness take care of that?

Secondly if I am using this pattern will escalation help your chances or hinder them for a ONS, Or has no effect? Example below

A week and a half ago I used this pattern on a girl interested in me but she wasn't ready to leave the club yet at 1am and wanted to stay with her friends. I left because I was tired after 3nights out in a row HOWEVER she had agreed to fuck me, I did not read between the lines + ready to go home.

I didn't escalate and didn't kiss close (is this bad?) and I now find it impossible to meet up with this girl. I have tried twice and she has been busy plus she does not contact me its only me contacting her and I have decided to stop contacting her now because I feel like I have fucked up something that was guaranteed initially.

Thirdly can I recover from this situation with this girl?

3questions in this post I hope someone can answer them.
Forget about this girl.... you should have waited and spent time with her, and then take her home from the club. Going out 3 nights in a row? I've done 30 nights in a row dude.... haha.

Every club has these chicks. If you can't find any - find the one that dances the most, or drinks the most... just make it a habit to always be doing it at the end of the night, before leaving, even if just for practice.

if you shock and awe a girl and she refuses, I wouldn't go for the number... I don't think it will work but on the other hand, you have nothing to lose... from the few times I tried it a few months back before doing it again on Saturday, I actually transitioned the conversations and I would keep talking with them for some time. Once after a girl refused to come with me, her boyfriend came over and set next to her, and both of us behaved like "nothing happened" and we just talked about general stuff, and then we exchanged details and she invited me to come and visit them in Australia :-) haha... 10 minutes earlier I was offering her sex.
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PHANGAN , I'll say this ... today is the 13.02.2012.

If you don't post a lay report in a month's time , SA911 , Skills and I will be deeply disappointed.

You have the biggest potential of any of the people in this forum.

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PHANGAN , I'll say this ... today is the 13.02.2012.

If you don't post a lay report in a month's time , SA911 , Skills and I will be deeply disappointed.

You have the biggest potential of any of the people in this forum.
haha, are you kidding me? one month? Dude I've been with 5 girls last week, 2 were new... :-)
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PHANGAN , I'll say this ... today is the 13.02.2012.

If you don't post a lay report in a month's time , SA911 , Skills and I will be deeply disappointed.

You have the biggest potential of any of the people in this forum.
haha, are you kidding me? one month? Dude I've been with 5 girls last week, 2 were new... :-)
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PHANGAN , I'll say this ... today is the 13.02.2012.

If you don't post a lay report in a month's time , SA911 , Skills and I will be deeply disappointed.

You have the biggest potential of any of the people in this forum.
haha, are you kidding me? one month? Dude I've been with 5 girls last week, 2 were new... :-)
NICE.
But I do put a lot of effort, going out almost every night. Now I need to get better so I can go out just 2-3 times a week, even that going out meeting new people / dancing / drinking is something that I really enjoy doing anyway. In 2-3 days I'm leaving Krakow and will be on the road "hosteling" again for a couple of weeks, before we (me and wing) settle down somewhere else for a month. After that, during the spring-summer, we will be spending 3-10 days in basically every major city in Europe, until September... Next winter we'll do Brazil and South America :-)
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Maybe we will see each other. Share ideas and maybe get drunk (on your money).

Bring cash.

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OK so I spoke with the chick on FB, following SA911 advice I started asking girls questions about our interaction so I can learn more about what was going on in their head, so I asked her why she didn't let me bang her:

"ok I'll tell but don't laugh, I had planned brazilian waxing for today, and I felt uncomfortable in bed before that "

hahaha... totally not my fault :-)
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OK so I spoke with the chick on FB, following SA911 advice I started asking girls questions about our interaction so I can learn more about what was going on in their head, so I asked her why she didn't let me bang her:

"ok I'll tell but don't laugh, I had planned brazilian waxing for today, and I felt uncomfortable in bed before that "

hahaha... totally not my fault :-)


oh so i was right, her mind was somewhere else i said nervous(uncomfortable) lack of inmersion:

3.- Her mind was all over the place(, she was nervous etc..(she thought this dude is a player, he wants to use me(and you failed to address those issues)

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Did I fail to address anything?

I'm working on my travel plans... anybody wants to meet at the Olympics in London for some day game? :-)
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