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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 2:55 pm 
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I'm a big fan of perfecting direct game (now whether I can always muster the balls to do it in the bar is another question - I do tend to do it pretty well during day game though).

However I've been wondering about using it online - my experience online is that the girls tend, on average, to be less hot, but you can filter more.

However, getting a high conversion rate is tough, especially when whatever matching algorithm a site uses says you're not a good match with a hot, probably easy girl.

Hence, my decision to test the Shock and Awe Online (also, I've not done amazing with this in bars, mostly because I don't think I play the over topness enough, and just come off as horny).

This is more an announcement of my results for field testing.

I tried it last night, using the dating site "OkCupid", on a girl I had a 22% match with, and who I'd give a subjective estimate of about 6-8. Ok face, decent body.

This is a girl I would not typically expect a response from.

First response back, she seems very flattered, says no one has ever been so forward before.

I'm going to continue the routine, try to get to know her. Not sure how sexual I should be online - this is something I intend on testing. I suspect being fully sexual is fine.

The biggest question will be transition - how to transition from heavily, overly sexual to meeting.

I'll eventually gather numbers, alongside match %, keywords used, etc for numerous samples.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 3:06 pm 
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Note, any helpful metrics that people want me to look into, please ask.


Girl #1

22% match
48% enemy
Body Type Listing: Thin
Ethnicity: White
Height: 5'3"
Distance: 9 miles
Subjective rating: 7

So far, one response, stating that she hadn't had anyone be so forward, and how it was a huge compliment.

Only briefly mentioned sex in the message. Going to send a second, equally over the top message, more sexual.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 3:23 pm 
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''shock and awe'' is alot less shocking, and causes alot less awe, when it is from behind a computer screen, there is almost no social pressure involved, it is in private, and you are not even physically in front of the girl to impose your body language, vibe, and tonality

the whole point of shock and awe is to show confidence in the face of something that no other guys have the balls to do, doing this over a computer kind of defeats this purpose as you can be guaranteed you are not the only guy who is forward over the internet when he feels safe (no fear of rejection when you don't have to face it)

way way way less effective, it's like guys telling girls they are cute over facebook vs doing it face to face in real life


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 3:24 pm 
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I hate online, girls are usually ugly left over, what i do is i have a very sexual profile, and i let them pm me if interested, exchange cell phone, i try to keep the convo. trough email texts, sexaddict is very good at online, there is also fling.com where women want to f$Ruck....Here is my profile:

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I am basically a Vin Diesel double without the steroids lol. I HAVE PICS TO TRADE. You'll notice my profile says that I have "private images" to share. You will NOT be disappointed! I have no problem getting girls specially in clubs(I am even writing a book on the subject), but this seems like a better way of finding an attractive open-minded girl.

*** PLEASE READ MY ENTIRE PROFILE before messaging - there are some surprises! ***

ABOUT ME

- 6'1", Built( i do p90x and insanity)
- Tall, dark and handsome
- I love sex but I am not promiscous or indiscriminate
- I love to dance, human psychology, relationship dynamics, reading, martial arts, smart humor, sarcasm, gymnastics and working out.

WHO I'm Seeking

- The ideal girl is someone i can see in the mid afternoon between 10 am and 4 pm, or go dancing with on the weekends.
- ages 24-45, exceptions made for the exceptional!
- She does not have to be a model but there needs to be some attraction, open-minded, respectful, fun girl with a brain.
- LOCAL - I'd like the option to come to you, so Miami & Broward are just not realistic.
- This work really good in my experience for girls that: are in a marriage or a relationship that is dead(or about to be dead, time bomb), Girls that just got out of a relationship, girls that travel a lot, girls in long distance relationships, girls that are dating but the guy is not proven yet(usually the typical nice guy), girls that are busy with school or work(entrepreneurs), or that do not have the energy to focus in a relationship and don't want to deal with the drama, girls that love the hubby or boyfriend but he sucks in bed, girls that want life advise, or workout advise, or relationship advise or learn how to dance.

SEND A MESSAGE ONLY IF INTERESTED, NO IFS OR BUTS, IF I AM INTERESTED AND YOU ARE COOL I WILL SEND YOU MY PICS. Sorry if that seems unfair, but that's how it works - guys with skills that are not needy or creepy looking for non-monogamy are not exactly falling from trees around here.

WHAT I WANT...and what I DON'T WANT

- Someone that I can like, respect, and enjoy
- I am not looking for a hit & run encounter.
- I am not looking for swinging, someone to join a threesome, or someone to "watch".
- I AM seeing someone, but I am NOT cheating, I am in an open relationship.
- I am seeking ONE person to be my "OSO" - "Other Significant Other" for preferably a long-term non-monogamous friendship/relationship free of jealousy & possessiveness. FWB is the closest approximation, since polyamory is uncommon - emphasis on the "Friend".
- can not be or had a history of being clingy, a psycho, or similar behaviors.
- Has to be super discreet, no gossip, no drama.
- someone that is not wishi/washi, is not punctual, or indecisive. I like confident, secure, mature woman that when they say yes is yes, and no is no.

WHY?

I've come to the realization that monogamy is not a sustainable relationship model (for me) and that it's not realistic to swear that you will never want to be intimate with someone else. I think that most people practice serial monogamy, which is not for me. You're just letting go of something which may already be great, often for just a little extra zing...why not explore both with a partner who doesn't want to own you?

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It's fine if you are seeing someone else as well. You may introduce us, or not, according to your situation and comfort level. I would be happy to fill in on weekends or for occasional trips, weekly get-togethers, or more or less often as our chemistry and lifestyles permit. Dinners, romance, and affection are welcome, picket fences and possessiveness are not. I have had successful long-term poly relationships before and have even been friendly with my person's other person!

Couples may approach me but just fyi, I'm not bi or gay and it would be just to meet open-minded friends.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 3:52 pm 
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Yes, I am wondering about how much less effective it will be online - I'm also using this as a test to calibrate what to say - I try to pull it off in real life, and while I can sometimes get a girl very turned on (last week in a club with this one girl, who I basically fingered on the dance floor) - I don't seem to have much staying power with it.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 4:49 pm 
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Yes, I am wondering about how much less effective it will be online - I'm also using this as a test to calibrate what to say - I try to pull it off in real life, and while I can sometimes get a girl very turned on (last week in a club with this one girl, who I basically fingered on the dance floor) - I don't seem to have much staying power with it.
Follow some of my lay reports and the skillls method of texting (a post i made a while back)... that will help you tremendously since all of my communication is none verbal....

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 4:39 pm 
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I'll look that up. I want to improve my text game - I'm already getting better, but I need even more progress.


I'm getting more or less mixed results with my messages online - girls are responding, but I've made no further contacts based on it.


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I'll look that up. I want to improve my text game - I'm already getting better, but I need even more progress.


I'm getting more or less mixed results with my messages online - girls are responding, but I've made no further contacts based on it.


Here:
the-skills-secrets-to-text-game-vt13817 ... crets+text

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