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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 7:52 am 
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Hey guys, been reading this forum for a while and never posted anything until now, which is obviously me seeking help on a specific topic :P .

The thing is, I've met this girl since we were little kids and although we always treated ourselves mutually well, no stronger friendship or relationship has been developed between us.

Two years ago, and I really can't explain how, this girl kinda joined my "larger group of friends" and consequently, I started to talk to her a little more and it developed to a small crush. In the meantime, a good friend of mine actually fell madly in love for her and told her what he was feeling, and she told him she only saw him as her friend.

We've met a couple of times recently on parties and my small crush has developed to stronger feelings, and I don't know what should I do, as this girl is pretty cool with everyone around and this friend of mine already got dumped after telling her what he felt, it's hard to understand what she is feeling towards me.

Last couple of times we met she did send me all kinds of body signals I could read as interest (and are listed on that incredible Body Language thread), but as we know each other for such a long time, it could mean she is just comfortable around me, I don't know.

Right now I'm trying to be as subtle as possible and also trying not to "hunt" her too much(which I'm actually failing lately, as I'm not being able to hold myself back if I see her name online on IM). This is a girl who is cool to everyone and treats everyone nicely, and even if I get stuck being a friend, would be better than not being anything.

Now, what should I do?! I'm lost!
Should I just wait? should I wait for a while and ask her on a date specifying it's a date? or should I ask her to hang out and seek more signals? or else?!

Thanks in advance guys. And sorry for any english mistakes.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 8:08 am 
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I remember seeing something in my collection that might help you, this will put you
on the right path to tell if she would welcome getting romantic with you.

Here is the FIRST KISS TEST...


The secret of getting the first kiss is so simple that, once you understand it, getting it
will be a trivial risk rather than a huge event. The secret is the pre-work. By the time you go
for that kiss you must have her so ready, so prepared, and so desiring, that kiss that she is
more than ready to go.

It's like lighting a camp stove. If you just lunge at the stove with a lit match, of course it
won't light. If the stove doesn't light, the problem isn't with the match you are using, how you
are holding it, or the way you struck the match on the box. It's not a defective camp stove and
it doesn't hate you. You just haven't primed it properly. If you focus on thinking that you are
doing something wrong during the lighting stage, when the problem is that you haven't primed the
stove properly, nothing you do will work. You need to realize that lighting the stove itself is
trivial if you have primed it properly.

Before going for the first kiss, you must have done most if not all of the flirting moves with a
woman. These are the bare-bones basics. If you haven't done most of these things, don't even
consider the first kiss. Go back and do them more. Get the basics handled, then move on.


TESTING HER READINESS FOR THE FIRST KISS


Touching Test

You can test her readiness by gauging her responses to casual and romantic touching. Casual
touching is simple and fast. It's when your fingers touch her when you give her a cup of coffee,
or when you touch her arm or back to guide her to the table you've selected. Casual touching is
ambiguous; you might be touching her as a friend, or you might be touching her as a potential
lover.

Romantic touching is more intrusive. If you are touching and holding her hand, or rubbing her
arm, or keeping your hand on any part of her body for more than a few seconds, you are touching
her romantically. You want her to welcome longer and longer periods of touch from you. First,
touch her casually, and see how she responds. More than likely, she will have no visible response
at all. If she pulls away at all, keep your touching extremely brief, and keep up your romantic
conversations. If she continuously shrugs away from your touch, consider getting rid of her and
moving on. There's no reason to stay with a woman who is cold, unresponsive, and doesn't want to
be romantic with you.

If she does respond positively, touch her for longer periods of time. If she gets more relaxed
and animated, if her skin flushes, or her eyes get shiny and reflective, these are all signs of
positive response. If she responds positively, move to putting your hand on hers for longer
periods. Don't make a big deal of this, just let it seem to happen.


The Hug Test

One way to learn about how a woman feels about you is to see how she responds to being hugged.
Like casual touching, hugging is something you can usually get a woman to accept just by doing
it. When you hug a woman and don't make a big deal out of it, much of the time she'll just assume
that you are a guy who hugs, and not make a big deal out of it either.

We usually recommend avoiding hugging a woman much before you are having sex with her. Hugging
is a friendly thing to do, rather than a lover-ly thing to do. If she gets use to being in your
arms without kissing you, it's easy for her to resolve the apparent incongruity by telling
herself that you are simply a friend.

Also, hugging is a time when men who are starved for touch accidentally show some desperation.
They grab a hold, get caught up in how good it feels to them (rather than to her), squeeze too
hard, and don't let go. The first rule of hugging a woman that you are dating is that you keep
it short. Short, short, short. Use it as a test of her readiness, not as a chance to get your
sexual or touch needs met. You'll get enough of that later on.

When saying hello or good-bye to her, you can often simply take her in your arms and hug her.
If you keep it short, it won't scare her, and you'll be able to gauge her response. Does she
press into you? Does she seem to want to really hang on? That's a good sign, and you might want
to move to kissing her right then. If she seems to want to get away, then you know you have more
work to do in making her feel romantic feelings.


The Face Kiss Test

Along with hugging, you can try face-kissing. This is when you kiss her cheek, to see how she
responds. If she leans into the kiss, and smiles, she's into it, and will be receptive to your
lip-kiss later. If she pulls back, or winces, then it's back to the drawing board. She most
certainly won't be receptive to a lip-kiss if she won't take one on the cheek willingly.


Enthusiasm Test

You can also gauge a woman's level of interest by her level of enthusiasm. Her enthusiasm will
be shown in her overall demeanor, but it's best shown in the time between one activity and the
next. It's between the activities that you do together, rather than during them, that she has
the best opportunity to claim she is tired and needs to go home. Between activities, watch her
level of interest. After the movie, is she eager to go out for coffee or a drink, or does she
seem reluctant? Does she seem to be looking for a juncture at which she can end the date, or is
she up for partying with you all night long? It's these between spaces that will tell you her
level of interest.


Pretend Kiss Test

This test also primes the woman for your kiss. You begin by moving towards her, as if to kiss
her, at some point "change your mind," and back off again. If, as you move toward her, she backs
away, she probably doesn't want to kiss you. If she stays still, or moves slightly forward, she's
probably interested. The pretend kiss can "seal the deal" for the kiss later. If she hasn't
moved away, then you both have acknowledged that a kiss in inevitable, and it's only a matter
of time.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 3:24 pm 
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Hmm, good info there leprechaun.

But how should I invite her out without scaring her in case she is not actually interested in me?


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If ya'll are familiar with each other, and still hang out together, just tell her that you
are going to catch a movie later on in the day and you have an extra ticket you asked
another one of your friends, but they already seen the movie.

It's not too "intrusive" to her if you have an "extra ticket" on hand. It's just a friendly
gesture.. you have an extra ticket and you thought of her ONLY after your other
"friend" had seen it already.

She thinks to herself, "hmm, he invited someone else BEFORE me, so he did not think
of me first, he is not trying to get me.. why not? .. well I'll go out with him to the
movie, and see if he makes a move.. this might be fun"..

And after the movie (don't make any moves in the theater, too cliche').. tell her that
you are hungry so she has no choice but to join you.. now, when you two are the
restaurant and got your food, just do a little LIGHT conversation.. you can ask her
a question, and then shut up and let her talk. Have a BLANK look on your face, do
not NOD or make uh huh sounds.. do NOTHING.. just stare at her and listen.

When she is done answering.. PAUSE for 3 seconds before doing anything else.
REMEMBER.. do not make it awkward for her by making this DATE seem like an
interview by asking her 20 questions...

When the check arrives.. pull it to you (like you are going to pay for it) BUT.. pretend
that you can't find your wallet, and tell her, "you're not gonna believe this... but I
think I lost my wallet in the theater." PAUSE for 5 seconds starring in her eyes..
and if she looks mad or is slightly smiling (like she thinks you are joking), tell her,
"I'm not kidding.. d*mnit.. where is my wallet.."

And when she starts asking you WHERE it might be, or asks if you are sure you
lost it in the theater.. just smile at her and say.. "nevermind, it was here the whole
time.." (SMILE)..

And now you have fulfilled a few KEY factors that are attractive to women..

1. You were not NEEDY by asking her to the movies (because she was your 2ND choice)
2. You DID NOT make any moves on her in the theater. You have CONTROL.
3. You and she went to dinner and it WAS NOT weird.
4. You showed her your HUMOR (joking about wallet)
5. You showed her that you are not TOO poor (paid for dinner.. could be good/bad
it's a toss-up these days)

Now, when you take her home, tell her that you had fun tonight.. you like seeing
her have a good time.. but more importantly.. you like being the one to show her
a good time..

From here, you are on your own by HER reactions, body language, etc etc..

BUT.. it's EASY to tell if a woman wants to be kissed by you.. all you have to do is..
use the KISS TEST'S described above and/or use a method called THE TRIANGLE GAZE..

TRIANGLE GAZE:
Look at her LEFT EYE .. then her RIGHT .. then look at her LIPS .. rinse and repeat.

If she DOES ANYTHING with her lips.. go ahead and KISS HER. Do NOT wait, do NOT
hold back, do NOT ask her if you can kiss her.. JUST DO IT...

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