Ok so I decide to OFFICIALLY get into the game about a two weeks ago. I always had interest in the area but never took the time to study and read books to improve my sarging skills. My first time sarging at a 21 and over bar was last saturday. My usual game is daygame and parties. by the way I'M 18. A college freshman.
The night started when i arrived back to campus, I hit up my wingmen, brake and pistol. Pistol, 23, tells us that he'll get us into a 21 and over and tells brake and I to follow him. When we get there pistol immediately said "what's up" to the bouncer at the bar and got us in with no trouble.
when we go inside we see a pretty good amount of HBs. 6s,7s, and a few 8s and 9s.
I immediately noticed that i was restricted by my AA, which I thought was not too bad when i did daygame. i believe i was intimidated by the fact that i had to approach 3,4,5 sets with guys and girls, instead of the one on one approach that usually takes place in daygame.
Pistol, the most experienced PUA out the three of us, forces me to begin the night off by approaching a 3 set with two guys. I just say "what's up buddy" to one of the guys and he said "hey whats up buddy u got a joint." haha and we kept the conversation going by talking about raves. that's when pistol came in to join our conversation and he slowly started negging the girl that was in the three set. thats when i decided to leave the set and let pistol take over. I looked around for a set to approach but my problem was that i waiting for the perfect moment to enter. so i would stand around a set and hover and of course break the 3s rule and dlv myself.
when pistol came back in to give me a few tips, i knew i had to just enter the set confidently and right away.
my first set:
three set with hb 6 and hb 8 and a guy. they were doing a funky dance to the music so i entered doing the exact same movements they were doing saying
Me: (smiling) What r u guys doing? trying to dougie?
Guy:we are just dancing having a good time.
I continue engaging the guy talking bout school and his life and completely ignore hb 8 (my target).
then the hb 8 says
"hi im natalie, whats ur name?"
im thinking in my head thats one ioi, she asked for my name
Me: Hey i'm %^##*
I thought to myself that i should ignore her if i wanted to get her attention so i started talking to the guy.
she interupts again by smiling at me and starts to touch my face (obviously had a few drinks).
Me: whoaa what r u doing? (trying to play it cool)
another ioi
she leaves the set as soon as i said that
what i should have said was something totally different cuz she thought i was completely serious.
I lose a golden oppurtunity to close the girl even when i got ioi's

Second set
I try to forget the first set and move on, brake and i see a three set with hb 6 and hb 8 with a guy who is the hb 6's bf.
I open by moving the chair out taking a seat next to them and introducing myself to once again the guy. but only a minute after i open the guy leaves saying that he has to go get the car. brake engages the hb 8 so i engage hb 6. she tells me the guy is her bf. i try to close after some small talk and by using bf destroyer by saying
me: so how is he? Im sure he's a perfect bf for you. (sarcastically)
hb: yea he is, see he just left to go get the car.
as i was thinking how to respond to that comment to my bf destroyer, her bf came and took the two hbs away.

so my first night sarging at a 21 plus bar was an experience i would never forget, although i left with no closes. i felt that my game was far improved then how it was when i entered.
It seems like i can easily close when im already isolated with the target, thinking back to my hs days and my last few weeks of doing daygame. (nclosed 6 girls in about an hour in past two days of daygame). but its isolating that seems to get me into trouble.





So last sunday, the day after my unsuccessful first bar sarging experience, i went to a party. again started the night off with AA, seems like my first approach of the night always seems to give me AA. I finally decide to approach after about 45 min.
Me: What r u doing texting at a party, have some fun like the rest of us.
Hb 7: haha im texting my friend to get my car keys.
me: what so u wanna leave now the party is just getting started
Hb 7: no im gonna stay a little longer.
i end up number closing the girl and tell her i had to go catch up with my friends because she tells me shes gonna leave soon.
i also opened another set that night with brake with hb 5 and hb7.5 but had difficulty isolating our targets since we were trapped in the kitchen due to the numerous number of people coming in to refill their drinks and take shots.


Although it had only been a day since my bar experience and the party, i felt that my game was very rapidly improving. if you read my other post about my daygame FR experience, you will see that i have certainly come a long way in only five days.

ANY ADVICE? what can i do to improve??

I think you did awesome and are on the right track.

It sounds like you AA is the biggest thing slowing down progress. The best advice I can give is to breakdown your AA by asking yourself one important question. "How important is any 1 opening?" If you blow it you learn something. Don't take life to seriously because none of us are going to survive it anyway.

On the technical side I would say that instead of saying "whoaa, what are you doing?" to neg when a girl touches you I prefer the MM "whoa, hands off the merchandise" I am on a Anti-question kick and I just think the second option is much more playful and cute.

Also don't tell her your name when she asks. Make her guess. I use some kino in that since it is such an obvious IOI. Grab her hand and lift it up (take note as to whether there is any resistance and if there is toss her hand away) Tell her (don't ask her) to lift 3 fingers up. Say " You have three guesses" Every time she get's one wrong push a finger down. When all the fingers are gone just say "Oh well, I guess you'll have to buy me off" This has worked well for me in the past.

I never tried it but I suppose you could use this as a chance to isolate her if you have already disarmed her group. Maybe just say "I never have this problem because I have ESP. Let's go over their where it's quite cause I am going to prove it" Tell her friends you're borrowing her for a bit. Play an ESP game with her. Whether it works or not you can kiss her by saying either "My ESP is totally telling me to do this right now *SMOOOOOCH* or "I think my ESP was out of whack when I kept feeling like you wanted me to kiss you... Let's find out *SMOOOOOOCH"

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