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First off, just a quick intro. (you can skip this paragraph if you like) I'm an Aussie uni student and my summer break's just begun about a week ago. Before now, I've been using the PUA material to improve my 'social-circle' interactions, but I have done very little cold approaches. This means my social circle's strong, but isn't really growing. Feeling that I've kind of plateued with what I can use PUA for while being lazy, I want to game some chicks I don't know. That's great, except that I simply don't do it. I want to do it, I try to do it, but I just don't. Now that I'm free for about 3 months, I want to improve myself over the summer. But the main reason for this change is that I've got a roadtrip with a bunch of (admittedly, AFC) mates coming up in about a month, and I want to do everything in my power to make sure I have the biggest 'I don't give a fuck' attitude possible. I will need to be the 'leader of men' on this trip and I know that if I don't open some females on this trip, noone else will and it will be a week long sausagefest, instead of a week of the beach, alcohol and girls :P (Plus I already shotgunned the queen bed, and it would be an awful shame to let that go to waste)

Now, since I've heard good things about it, I'm doing Lucas West's Demonic Confidence "course" ( www.demonicconfidence.com/ for the official website), and here I will be posting a log of my daily challenges.

As selfish as it sounds, I'm really putting it here for my benefit. If this helps other people, great, but that's not my primary reason for posting. (Brutally honest ;) ) I know that if I put it up publically, I've got more incentive to force myself through any hesitations that will come up.

If you wish to do demonic confidence yourself, you probably shouldn't read this thread because you're not supposed to know the challenges before you actually go do them. I also ask that you do not spoil any future challenges that I have not yet done (if it's not posted, assume I haven't done it)

Introduction/Preparation Week
I started this the exact day I finished my final exam, which is perfect because DC tells you to free up your schedule as much as possible.

So I got myself a journal for DC (78c excersize from supermarket on my way home from my final uni exam haha) Now, I had to write down my goal, which was exactly this: "To be able to approach any girl, make no excuse and start any conversation I desire. Be able to make a sexual intent clear, and act on it when I want to, despite who she is, where we are or who we are with."

Next is an interesting one, I had to write down any and every excuse that I could think of, why I shouldn't approach a girl I'm interested in. This was full of standard stuff like "She's listening to headphones.", "People are watching." as well as 'lying-to-yourself' excuses like "She's not hot enough."

Finally, over the week, I had to do 3-4 things that I've been putting off. These were (in order):
1. Get my phone network-unlocked.
2. Clean my room.
3. (a bit random, but something I've wanted to do for a while) Find a beat online and write a rap verse or two to it.
4. Get a haircut.
And (wasn't on my list, but I had been putting it off, so I did it also) do some 'manscaping'.

Now, exactly 1 week later, I must begin. :)

Demonic Confidence spoilers begin here, stop reading here if you plan on doing the program yourself

Day 1 Challenge - 11/11/2010
Today's challenge was to approach 30 women and ask them for the time. No sweat, mainly. (except for the fact that it was bloody hot today and I was dressed for the cold morning, but anyway)

I took a bus to a nearby shopping centre (or mall if you're from the states) and as soon as the bus stopped, I asked a cute islander looking girl the time. I was off. :D The first 5-10 or so came through pretty smoothly as I just wandered around the shops asking random girls I saw for the time. Then I got the only negative response of the whole day, a girl simply replied "No" with a my-shit-don't-stank look and walked off. Wow, rude. Isn't it funny how you forget all the good interactions and the bad ones stick with you? (Although I do remember teasing a girl who was with her friend and took like 2 minutes to find her phone in her bag haha. Pretty sure that's technically flirting with a stranger :) )

After I got to about 15 or so, I had exhausted most of the places in the centre, and found myself walking out. I decided to walk to the univeristy across the road where I met an interesting issue. This uni has a huge international student population, mostly from Asia, and some of these girls look seriously fucking scared if you speak to them. And it's not even like I'm scary :P As time went on though, people were giving me better responses, so either I approaching at a better place in the uni or all the super-timid ones ran away already. I got to 30 approaching a bunch of very cute girls at the university, and exchanging a smile with any girls who offered one. (I heard these two girls giggling as I walked away, after exchanging a smile with one of them. Good feeling.)

All in all, this is basically a less intimidating version of the newbie mission (the fact that you have a reason to speak to people makes it much less threatening personally). A lot of people seemed so in their minds that they were almost shocked out of their own little realities (mainly in the mall), a vast majority were happy to help, a handful were extremely happy to help, 1 was rude, and one instinctually said no after I approached her in the shops, then said "oh wait, yes" and gave me the time lol.

(It was also interesting seeing how wrong some people's clocks were.)

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Cool man, look forward to seeing the rest. For a few reasons, first its good to see other people at the same stage as me progress. And second i get to basically see what the course is for free. :) (I'm not cheap, just innovative :P)

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'sok Florg, I tend to be rather "innovative" myself as well :P

Day 2 Challenge - 12/11/2010
The first thing you need to do for day 2 is go back to your journal and open up the big page of excuses. You then need to categorise them in your own categories. I ended up with 3 main categories, "Social Norms", "Lying-To-Myself", "Situational Problem".

Social norms held things like "I have no excuse to alk to her" and "I'm on a bus/train and no one talks." Lying-To-Myself held things like "She's probably got a boyfriend" or "I'm not dressed well enough today." Situational Problems held things like "She's got headphones on", "She's studying".

So I had to analyse these groups of excuses, and then form a page of new beliefs as to why all these excuses are rubbish. (In the audio, West uses the example "I'm too fat", then goes on to prove the excuse wrong by saying that fat guys get laid all the time, all women are not shallow and not all women are attracted to thin men.) I found that I have the least variance of "situational problems", but I tended to use them the most, while I also used social norms and "lying-to-myself" to avoid approaching. I then made my page of new beliefs.

So onto the practical bit! Today's challenge - very similar to yesterday - ask 30 women for the time again, but this time either have a watch on or be holding your phone. Don't make an excuse about the watch/phone unless they ask.

Today I had a job interview (training is tomorow, woohoo) so I was out and about early. I found myself in a different shopping centre to yesterday at about 10.00am. It was quiet, and mostly populated by old people. How sad. However, I pushed through, finding a bunch of girls to approach over a couple hours. As I reached the 20 or so mark, I started seeing the same girls over again, which kind of spooked me because I didn't want to ask the same girl the time twice in like a 15 minute block :lol: That slowed me down, taking me a while to get to the 30.

People were, in general, more friendly today, I'm not sure why, although I didn't get a lot of the super-friendlies from yesterday either. However, noone noticed (or cared about) the phone in my hand, which I thought was a bit of a disapointment. There still was the occasional person who assumed that a random coming up to them in the shops was after something, one girl responsed "No actually I d... oh wait the time? Yeah it's xxx" Funny how we all have our autopilots on as we go about the day.

Hopefully training tomorow won't take the whole day, so that I can get day 3 done without issue :)

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Just got home after day 3

Day 3 Challenge - 13/11/2010
I almost didn't go and do day 3 today. I got home from training at about 3.30pm (picked up by mum as well, so it's not like I could have just gone on myself lol), the shopping centre closes at 5. I thought, "I have a good excuse not to do this, I can postpone this." Then I remembered that Lucas West said to treat this as the most important thing in my life, for the next 3 weeks. Fuck he's right, so I pushed through and drove to the shopping centre from yesterday,

I listen to day 3's track "Ask another 30 women the time" and I'm like bloody hell this is getting boring. This time though, I had to do it while pointing at my phone. Still, no one seemed to care about it, and everyone just told me the time straightaway, except 2. 1 of them said sorry and kept walking (too far into her little world I assume) and the other one was about to tell me the time then looked at my phone and is like "Dont you have a phone right there?" I replied something like "Yeah, it's not working" or some other bullshit lol, before she told me the time. I probably should have gone c/f or something, but I didn't.

An Indian female friend of mine told me this once "Don't ever, ever speak to an Indian girl if she's with her parents, unless you want to get chopped into little pieces." So naturally, when I saw a cute Indian girl with her mum, I went straight up to her and asked the time :lol: And there's a lot more where that came from, self-limiting taboos! ;)

So in the past 3 days I've asked 90 women for the time... wow. I'm not supposed to reflect as of yet, but I don't think these excersizes are very beneficial to me yet. In the past, I've not had much problems speaking to people with an excuse, then leaving, like you do when asking the time. I think these will be more useful later when I'm asked to do something a little more adventurous.

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Day 4 Challenge - 14/11/2010
Phew, today's one was tiring. I had to ask 30 women for directions and then afterwards, try to keep the conversation going if possible.

I took a train down to the city, and was pleasantly surprised to find that basically everyone was really friendly and really helpful. There was an interesting breaking of stereotypes going on in Sydney today. Just about every Asian person I asked happened to be a local, while almost all the white girls I asked were tourists. Two interactions that stand out in my mind (after a while, they all start to blend together) were a Japanese girl here on a working holiday who gave me (admittedly, bad) directions to a train station, and a "3-set" who I questioned after one of them said "you go that way, probably." I said something like "Probably? What, did they move the station or something?" then told her that if I got lost, it would be her fault :P

Good challenge today, although tiring because after someone gives you directions, you're pretty much obliged to walk the way they told you to. And a lot of the time, you end up where you were asking directions to, so you need to either think of a new place to ask directions to, or walk back away :lol:

After doing the practical bit, there was a bit that involved positive affirmations, using the big list of excuses I made. Basically, all the excuses that no longer hold true, I wrote down something like "I believe I can approach a girl wearing headphones." and "I believe that race does not matter when approaching a girl." All the excuses that we haven't busted yet, we needed to say that we want to change the belief we have of it, for example I had one "I want to change my beliefs about needing to have an excuse to approach a woman." I now need to either repeat these to myself every day, or record them and play them back every day.

I'm happy with myself right now. I've spoken to 120 people/sets that I wouldn't have otherwise. Bring on day 5! :)

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Its good that you're sticking with it. Keep up the motivation :)

I don't know why nobody else commented on this yet though.

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Day 5 Challenge - 15/11/2010
Today's one was one hell of a task, compared to the others. It shouldn't have been, but this is something for me, that was harder to attack than the previous ones. I had to find another 30 women, and complement them on something completely non-sexual. Something that I would complement my sister or my mother with, according to Lucas West.

Even if you dont do DC, I definitely recommend people try this. It's not easy to force yourself to talk to a girl, just to complement her, but it's rewarding.

To be honest, when I first got started, I cheated a little. I met up with a friend at the shops, and gave her money. She had to point out girls for me to complement, and if I did, I got the money back, if I didn't she kept it. Thankfully, I didn't lose any money today :) She left as I was at about 10 (with 4 or so of those being assisted) and I was left on my own. This is where I really began to appreciate this. People love being complemented, as obvious at it sounds, it really made a few girls really flattered.

The interesting thing about this one is that the really positive responses stand out much more than the negative responses (the most negative of which was an unsure thankyou with some "wtf" eyes). A few that stood out in my mind:
- Approached this cute red-haired girl looking at a laptop with headphones in, in the apple store. I told her I loved her hair colour and she exploded into giggles.
- Another cute girl working in some clothes shop, just folding clothes. I went up to her and said something like "Hey you look really bored folding clothes, so just thought I'd tell you that you look really cool." She said that I'd just made her day, which to be honest, made my day as well :P
- A woman in her 30s who i wasn't attracted to was going up the escalator and I was behind her. I noticed that she had these sparkly little studs in her ear, so I said something like "Hey you've got really cute earings. They sparkle as you go by." She was pretty happy about that and we had a quick convo.

There was a stack more, but this was a difficult, but fun challenge.

Try complementing a stranger!

When it's geniune, it really rings true for them, and makes them really happy. There is something really great about that.

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awesome, Your enthusiasm is motivating


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nice man, keep it up.


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Great stuff man, keep going I'd love to read more.


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Thanks for sharing this. Just had to sign up and reply!

This whole idea is excellent practice. I don't really have trouble talking to strangers so I want to give this a go feeling I have a head start.

Day 5 must be really rewarding. As you point out, the positives are more memorable than the negatives. Going with 30 women, you're naturally going to run into some who are chatty and you will pick up a great conversation if the conditions are right. Can't wait to try this :)


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I'm glad that people are taking value out of my posts. I sugest you guys go out and do some of these excersizes, don't just read things like I did for far too long!

Day 6 Challenge - 16/11/2010
Today was ironic.

I was unable to do achieve the challenge as instructed, yet I am extremely happy about it. Today's challenge?
1. Get yourself into a terrible state: rejection is imminent, rejection is harsh, rejection will hit me if I talk to any women, be very fucking afraid.
2. With that mindset, ask 30 women for directions.

The thing is, no matter what, I was simply unable to feel that way. I did ask 30 for directions, and kept trying to mess up my state, but I simply could not do it. I even got the same female friend from yesterday to text me reasons why approaching is bad, and dangerous, and why I shouldn't do it, but my head just wouldn't believe it. It didn't help that every time I asked someone for directions, I was met with only friendliness and good vibes.

Unfortunately (or fortunately?) I've had far too many good interactions over the past week to believe that I will get blown out, shot down, yelled at, beaten up or whatever else the fuck I'm supposed to believe will happen if I talk to the fairer sex. If I wrote the DC course, I would put this challenge yesterday, before the complementing people challenge. Perhaps my mindset is just in a different place then it's expected to be, who knows.

On a side note, on the way home from today's challenge, I was on the train. A cute girl, little bit older, with hot glasses sat in front of me. Normally, I would have done nothing. Not today. I leaned forward, asked her the time (just to get her attention), then told her that her glasses looked great on her. I called her a herd - "hot nerd." She quite liked that :P The old me would have been bothered that the interaction ended there, as she turned back around (ideally, I would have been sitting in front of her, giving me the power to turn, but we know things aren't always ideal), but I really didn't mind. Lovedrop (one of the Mystery Method teachers, very interesting speaker) talks about giving out positive vibes, and getting positive vibes back. This is so true.

I'm so glad I'm doing this.

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I am having to use the Stasis Excersize to postpone DC. Unfortunately work means that I don't have the 2 odd hours needed every day to go and chat to people. Hopefully this won't hold back my development.

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Hey man, you're doing great with your progress. Keep on developing! Seriously, much respect for you dude! Also, it won't hold back your progress, find some other time to do that mission then.. :)

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Thanks for the support Lyrical. I'm back on track now :)

Day 7 Challenge - 20/11/2010
Today's task was like a good version of the previous one. More about state control, this time I had to get myself into a really happy, really excited state to approach. I thought about how good this coming roadtrip would be it put a massive smile on my face. Ready!

I did today on saturday night on a busy city street, so there was no shortage of people to talk to. West recommended I alternate between asking the time and asking directions, so that's what I did. As usual, all of today's interactions were positive and a few were quite fun. I tried acting in a few to keep it fun as well :P

Couple memorable approaches from today:
- Girl sitting on a little fence thing, I ask her directions. She points me in (what I know to be) the wrong way, before saying she wasn't sure. So she's like you should probably ask someone else. I notice some girl like 3m away so I'm like "I'll go ask her instead." Ask girl 2 and she points me the correct way (which is also the direction that girl 1 was at) so as I'm walking back past girl 1 I say something like "Turns out it's this way, you pointed me the completely wrong way, haha it's alright." Had a little moment with her. :P
- Three girls drinking at a bus stop. I ask them the time, one of them say's 5, straight away (it was like 10pm). So I look her directly in the eyes and say "Am or Pm?" I don't know why but it felt really fucking smooth lmao, like James Bond. Anyway, she says PM, then her friend gives me the real time. I thank and leave haha
- I tried doing a few approaches with an Irish accent just for fun. I don't know why it's so fun pretending to be Irish, but it's a sweet accent to fake :P There was this one girl I asked directions in the accent, she replied and I instinctly said "Alright thanks" in my normal voice, haha whoops.

Anyway, once I was done I had to do something a little strange, I had to write a letter to my subconcious telling it why I deserve beautiful women, and asking for its help. I wasn't going to but I've decided to type it up.

Dear subconcious,

You may find it strange that I would send you such a letter, but hear me out. I can help you, and you can help me. What I request from you is the confidence to approach and attract all the beautiful women I desire. It is time we worked together.

I have cooperated with you and myself to change our direction for the better. I have given you positive affirmations to strengthen you, as well as approached over 210 women to tell you that any doubts you had about my abilities with women are unfounded.

Mystery's Method says that the 3 crucial components of a healthy, attractive, well-balanced and high value lifestyle are Health, Wealth and Love.

You know that I am taking steps to improve my health, doing weights and situps almost nightly, as well as trying to increase my intake of food.

I am building up my wealth situation, geting a job to suport my adventures, and thus reducing my parental dependance.

The upward momentum of these two will also force love upwards, coupled with my determination in doing the DC program. I have done a lot of things in my power to allow you to realign in a positive way, and I believe now is the time for you to get behind me, and help me reap what I have sewn.

You know I deserve it. I know you want it. Let's do this now.

Love,
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