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PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 9:28 pm 
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I've been reading Magic Bullets lately and decided to use a screening opener. Generally this type of opener is described as a higher risk, higher reward opener.

Status: Currently 2nd year medical student.

Place: Dance club in India

Event: An Annual Medical Student party involving 1st, 2nd and occasional 3rd year students.

Scenario: I saw a cute first year student who was running for the Fresher Queen title (basically prom queen for that year) and she unfortunately didn't win. I finally got a chance to slip in an opener outside the club doors (she was with a friend and was entering the club again).

I just went straight up to her and said
"you're from california? are you friendly?" the are you friendly is a mentioned screening opener used in Magic Bullets.

She said "yeah why?"

Me: Well you know Californians and you didn't win

Her: *Laughs* I know (she prolonged it in kind of that bratty self disappointed tone)

Reason: I attend an international medical college where US students are the minority and so I had a perfectly good reason of asking. After this however, she just entered the club with her friend and didn't bother to ask me my name, though I never asked hers either.

Body Language: I stood up as straight as possible and kept my voice deep, eyes fixed on hers. I'm only 5'5" though so I suppose height has an effect after all, still she was only about 5'2"

Please let me know where I need to improve, I haven't had a girl friend yet (yes I'm 20) and I'm absolutely sick of not being able to improve. I've been reading this stuff for 2 years now and I still don't see any result even though I implement it.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 9:47 pm 
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Hi dude!

I read this, and basically you're fine. You've opened a set which is great, opening while alone is a great feat, since you have more pressure on you.
What you could've done is take it somewhere, understand that the opening is only to get her to talk to you, that's why my opener is basically "Hi".

I think the main reason why you can't progress in pickup is because you just think too much and analyze the situation around you all the time.

Once you've opened her and got her to laugh just smile and introduce yourself and talk to the girl. Be confident and glad to have met her. Attractive men don't hit on girls, they talk to women. So just talk to her and smile, do't think too much about what's going on or how she thinks of you, just listen to her.
Learn how to hold a good conversation, ask questions and make statements, read Gambler's Natural Game, he explains it great there.

Next time, after you open, try to neg her or introduce yourself or whatever feels right, don't worry about the outcome, it what makes you attractive: don't give a fuck :)

-Kem


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 3:33 am 
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Hi dude!

I read this, and basically you're fine. You've opened a set which is great, opening while alone is a great feat, since you have more pressure on you.
What you could've done is take it somewhere, understand that the opening is only to get her to talk to you, that's why my opener is basically "Hi".

I think the main reason why you can't progress in pickup is because you just think too much and analyze the situation around you all the time.

Once you've opened her and got her to laugh just smile and introduce yourself and talk to the girl. Be confident and glad to have met her. Attractive men don't hit on girls, they talk to women. So just talk to her and smile, do't think too much about what's going on or how she thinks of you, just listen to her.
Learn how to hold a good conversation, ask questions and make statements, read Gambler's Natural Game, he explains it great there.

Next time, after you open, try to neg her or introduce yourself or whatever feels right, don't worry about the outcome, it what makes you attractive: don't give a fuck :)

-Kem
Dear Kem,

A sincere thanks for the response. First, I'd like to mention that the opener was rather spontaneous and seemed unnatural now that I think about it. I mean who just goes up to some girl in the face and asks "you're from X?" Also, you said attractive men simply talk to women... however, this lands me up in the friend zone by experience, any further input would be great. Time to go read some pathology.

-ID


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 2:54 pm 
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You're welcome for the response buddy. :)

The opener is just to break the ice, it doesn't matter what you say, and she won't even remember it. Who the hell goes up to a girl and asks "Why do you think pinguiens are playing voleyball?". Remember that a pickup artist is the exception to the rule. While other guys might come over and ask her what's up, or how's she doing, you're going to blow her away with a random yet interesting question. Understand that your opener should be something you're comfortable saying.

Next, talking. You need to know what things you talk about and what not. When a woman meets a new man she immediatly thinks of him as her potential suiter. So no matter what, she's already though of you in a sexual way. Once you start talking she wants to see that you're someone she can talk to, who's fun, outgoing, with lots of firends and a good energy around him. If you break it down, you'll see that routines were made up to convey that exact thing. When you demonstrate value with a DHV story you're talking to her and you interest her. When you teach her something new she views you as an interesting person. Know what to talk about without sounding boring or arrogant.

I'll give you a nice tip: The most interesting story for anyone is himself. So talk to ther girl about her, and about what she likes to do, and know not to ask too many questions. Tell her interesting things you've read, use routines if you must, but know to have fun and enjoy whatever you do.

Hope this made things clearer.

-Kem


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