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PostPosted: Mon May 31, 2010 1:16 am 
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On Saturday night I went out with 4 of my mates and my brother.

Background about myself, I am 24, married, being with the same woman for 7 years (since I was 17) and have recently been introduced to the PUA lifestyle.

My intentions as a "PUA" you might say is to be an awesome wing man (help my fellow mates K and even F close, and do Wingman objectives and teach them), sarging is my favourite, and to build up the Alphaness.

This is my story of how it went:-

My best friend, Bob knows the game as much as I do, we are both confident in ourselves and are Alpha. He is about 1.90cm tall and I am 1.69cm tall, so yeah, kind of like Danny Devito and Arnie in twins hahaha!!!

As soon as we walk in, I walk the alpha walk, in the sense of walking with a slight smile, walking towards the destination with determination and the flow of relaxation. It was a masquerade party, so at the front there was a stand in which you could buy a mask, so I bought one that looked like Zorro, and because I have a Mo, (mustache) i looked like him :P

So I saw 2 HB8's standing there, and I asked them:-

Quarius - "Do i look like Zorro?"
HB8(1) - "OMG yeah!"
HB8(2) - "That's hot, what about mine?"
Quarius - "It's alrite, but would look better on me :P"
HB'S - (Started giggling)

I then gave them a wink, and continued on my journey to the toilet as I needed to pee, I planted the seed with those 2, tell you about it later.

When walking to the toilet, I started shaking hands with random guys, and saying hi to some staff members, mind you I have no idea who they are, but wanted to experiment with something, looking like I knew these people, especially the workers and bar tenders, and see how people would see me, more about this later >:D

The boys and I went to the VIP section, and sat down. I was leaning against a pillar on a chair sitting with one of me legs on top of the knee (ankle touching my knee), hands relaxed and I was exposing the following 3 important "Alpha" elements:-

1. Throat
2. Heart
3. Groin

Behind/beside me was a guy with his girl, she was a HB7.5, so I started to talk to the guy and just said hi to her, me and the guy spoke for a few mins and was more comfortable, so far I have said hi to about 8 people.

There was a live band playing, pretty loud, so conversations were a bit of a challenge. I then noticed in front of us was a table full of girls, mostly chubby, :/, not my desired women, but was still good to make eye contact and remain alpha, which proved to be awesome because I felt like I was being eye raped :P. You see my intentions are not to pick up girls or cheat on my wife, but more than anything, it;s the challenge of the game that excites me, teasing women and knowing they cannot have me is awesome.

Later, I made more friends with the bar staff and then they knew my name and I knew theirs, and when I went to the bar, I was hi-fiving the staff and the guys and girls would be looking at me, not in a weird way, but in a way that portrayd, "wow this guys know all these people", it was a good vibe and I had 3 separate girls, as I was walking back to our table, try and dance with me, and I simply said:-

Quarius - Sorry ladies, i'm taken, I don't dance with strangers in a smirky tone, then put my hands on their hips to move them to the side.

My confidence kept growing, and I could feel my energy improving and people gravitating towards me. PLEASE NOTE i am not a douche and trying to talk my way up, I am merely expressing what I experienced and hope it may assist members.

I then sat down on a couch with my mates to have a drink, then a chubby HB4 sits next to me, she was a very confident woman I must say, and we spoke, she kept giving me IOI's and I kept teasing and then told her I need to go to the toilet to use the little girls room, for some reason, some girls find this funny!!! (i use it a lot).

Again, walking to the toilet, on my way I had people saying hi to me, who I had said hi to in the beginning, and I felt the social proof was increasing, and the 2 girls, I initially spoke to in the beginning, regarding Zorro mask, asked me to dance with them, I said no, but thanks for trying :P

We then went to the dance floor, and I was just standing on the side, with my drink in hand, below my waist, and portraying the Alpha stance which I had learned, and it worked! I had a HB8 MILF (you can tell) who kept dancing around me with her friend, giving me the eye contact, which I kept staring until she looked away. I could tell she was waiting for me to come up to her, but as I was teaching one of my young friends, who just turned 18, I told him that I am the prize, and if she wants it, she needs to earn it. He started laughing thinking I was joking, and I then taught him how to stand "Alpha" and he thought it would not work, to his surprise, it drew people to be around him.

For the next 30mins, the HB8 kept dancing around me, giving me the eyes, IOI, and I kept on "teasing". Eventually my friend noticed her and said:-

Bob - "This chicks been dancing around here for a while looking at you"
Quarius - "I know, im just experimenting with a few things"
Bob - "Seems to be working"
Quarius - "Ohhh yeah, hey take over if you want, she's yours :)"
Bob - "Done :)"

He then approached her with openers and then started talking and found out she had an 8 year old child, and asked about me a few times, I then walked over and intro'd myself and the music stopped, and I started dancing alone, and she started laughing, nice IOI, I didn;t want to block so I left and we waited otuside for Bob to come back. He told me he stuffed it up because he didn't #close or K-close.

I then advised of how he could have improved and we both learned something new.

Overall a good night, had a lot of confidence, a lot of social proof, made a lots of friends, who said bye to me when we left and proved a few theories, most importantly, I proved to myself i still got it :D

don't be shy to provide constructive opinions and or questions,

I'm excited!

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 11:14 pm 
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Just to add to my previous post, I went with the intention of trying some theories in which I read about, and the following theories worked:-

Alpha Stance

Whenever I stood with a drink in my hand, I made sure it was below the hip bone, my feet were as follows:-

Left foot facing 11 O'Clock and my right foot facing 3 O'Clock, and standing slightly on an angle with my feet shoulder width apart. This stance actually gravitated people towards me, it was fun and exciting to see this work! Try it out and let me know how you go.

Social Proof

I wanted to see if people would treat me differently, and also if my confidence boosted up by making friends with other people in the bar/club and befriending the staff.

I noticed that it takes courage to do, and believe me, I had AA, but said "fuck it, if it's to be, it's up to me". So I went forward with that and it worked, I gained Social Proof, confidence and overall felt like I was the owner of the place, and it was an awesome feeling.

Alpha Sitting

I also wanted to try the Alpha Sitting position, to see if it attracted people to gravitate, and/or notice me, and obviously doing it without a douche face, it feels powerful, relaxed, confident and just plain good. I leaned back, took up as much room as possible, and had a slight smile on my face, because if I do not smile at least a bit, it looks like I'm giving dirty looks :/

This also proved awesome, my friends felt the energy, saw me relaxed, confident and Alpha, and I am proud to say, it works! even the waitresses were approaching me to ask if I wanted drinks or if my mates wanted drinks.

Alpha Walking

Another theory I wanted to try was the walking, walking with a purpose, with a goal. Every time I would be walking, I would be walking to a certain place, the goal, whether it be the toilet, bar, dance floor, I knew where I was going, and this my friends, is important. If you just walk around for the sake of it, you look lost, and seem Beta, not Alpha.

I walked at a smooth pace, confident pace, and in my head kept saying positive, powerful words such as:-

"I'm awesome"
"I love you" (to myself :P)
"I'm confident"
"I'm powerful"
"I'm Alpha"
"I got this"
etc...

When walking I did not have my hands in my pocket, I did not swing them at an exaggerated pace, just enough.

how to befriend the AMOG

This one I forgot to mention in my earlier post. When I went to the toilet and came back, I sat with my mates, and next to me were 2 girls, in which I asked a few questions, I then noticed a guy coming to the group, and standing there trying to over power me by standing tall, I actually extended my arm and shook his hand, and asked:-

"What do you think about Tats (tattoos) on girls"
"they're fucking hot, bla bla bla...."

In the end we spoke for about 10 mins, he told me about his life and I was interested so we were friends, and every time we bumped into one another, he would shake my hand, or high five me.

It was scary to think that the night went so well, TBH I wanted to experience rejection/failure, but it did not happen, maybe that night was a lucky one, let's see what happens the next time I go out, I shall keep you guys updated.

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I liked the alpha stance/sitting descriptions. Good read.


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This is interesting and good information.

Question: Since you recognized the other alpha and "opened" him, doesn't that make you beta?? What are your thoughts about this?

I think your height will actually help you a lot because you are going to have to compensate for it with extra alpha body language and behavior. Do you feel that way?


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It doesn't make you beta in the least! You show value by being a friendly person, it's not like you're groveling to him. The way you win an AMOG battle is by neutralizing the AMOG. You can either make them look stupid, or make them friendly towards you. He did the second way. It worked.

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Great post Quarius, your detailed overview of the night helps us relate and learn from what you did.

The Alpha stance description throws me off though. You said to have feet at 11 o' clock and 3 o' clock. This stance feels and looks a little awkward to me and is different than the Alpha stance I have learned. If you disagree, maybe you can show some pictures of what you mean.

I use something along the lines of this as a way to stand:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnlSRubL_DE


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Great post!

I especially like the part about hi fiving and greeting people even if you don't know them.

On one hand it makes me think of Austin Powers (if done badly), but on the other (if done right) it reminds me of the scene in Goodfellas when they walk into the club from the back, and Henry knows everyone. Definitely some great social proof there.


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This is interesting and good information.

Question: Since you recognized the other alpha and "opened" him, doesn't that make you beta?? What are your thoughts about this?

I think your height will actually help you a lot because you are going to have to compensate for it with extra alpha body language and behavior. Do you feel that way?
Hey Clozer,

Regarding the AMOG, I feel that because i "opened" him up, he became friendlier towards me and I was able to control the conversation and show that I was in charge. Not only that, but like I said before, when he saw me later, he would be shaking my hand and high fiving me :P. In my honest opinion and experience I feel that I did not defeat the AMOG, I became the AMOG.
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XxBAMFxX - Great post Quarius, your detailed overview of the night helps us relate and learn from what you did.

The Alpha stance description throws me off though. You said to have feet at 11 o' clock and 3 o' clock. This stance feels and looks a little awkward to me and is different than the Alpha stance I have learned. If you disagree, maybe you can show some pictures of what you mean.

I use something along the lines of this as a way to stand:
[link]

Hey Bamf,

Here is the site in which I wanted to prove it's theory, have a read, try it and let me know how you go.

I now stand this way in almost all parts of my life, when waiting in line, when at a club, when on the phone to potential clients, etc... It just feels awesome.

(I cannot add links so go to Google, type :- how to stand like an alpha male, then click on :- Standing Like An Alpha « Citizen Renegade)

And also, thanks to everyone for your great comments, as I keep improving new skills, etc... I will update you guys. The best way is practice, KEEP FAILING FORWARD!!!

Regards,

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Thanks Quarius,
I couldn't find it directly on google, but after some searching on the citizen renegade website I found it. Here it is for anyone else who is interested:

http://roissy.wordpress.com/2008/10/15/ ... -an-alpha/

I will try this one next time I am out, but I also will mention that I have had great success with the principles found in the other video. Here are some of the recent wins:

A week ago I was standing in the middle of the food court at my local mall while talking on my cell phone. Throughout the conversation and the next minutes to come, I focused on maintaining the alpha stance.

About 40 feet away from me were three girls (one whom I recognized as my friend's ex). I made eye contact with them and did not avert my gaze until they did. They looked at me seductively and started giggling, inviting me to come...long story short:
One of the two girls kept telling me I look like a model and commented on how relaxed I looked.

Two days ago, I was socializing with some friends at a wedding. I was in alpha stance with the same footwork, but this time I changed up a few things:

- I had one hand relaxed on my hip
- I made sure I kept my chin parallel to the ground
- I gazed straight ahead in to the distance as if something particular had caught my interest.

I had already built up attraction with the girls in the group, including my friend's gf, who went out of her way to tell me that I was standing with "air of importance."
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Based off my experience and the version of the stance you showed me, the most important factor to keep in mind is RELAXATION. This is not to be confused with a stance that makes you look sleepy and like a slob. It is a state of alertness and control.

As for the body language, the key point to remember is to never be even-footed. Always aim to have your weight distributed more on one foot than on the other.


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Wow.

I have been really working on my alpha stance lately and this sounds like some really good stuff.

I can't wait to go out and try it.

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Wow.

I have been really working on my alpha stance lately and this sounds like some really good stuff.

I can't wait to go out and try it.

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youre not an alpha.
you're walking the "alpha walk"
talking the "alpha talk"

you have a lot to learn
at first for instance stop doing the alpha actions, and start becoming one instaed.


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How you hold your body directly influences how you feel. The external influences the internal and vice-versa. It is hard to be down and depressed when you have your chest lifted up, your back straight, and your body relaxed.

On the flip side, it is hard to feel happy and confident when your posture is slumped, your shoulders are forward, and your eyes are down.


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