If you do not feel like reading the whole thing, just skip down to the final notes section at the bottom.

Alright, it is Saturday night and I am feeling good after huge friday night progress. Tonight, however, is meant to be more fun and less game. I only slept 3.5 hours and am drinking before going out--not good for game. Also, I have a zit on the bridge of my nose (the only bit of acne). However, some people bail and it ends up just being me and my wing; its game-time.

I walk in confident and comfortable--0 AA--and open the first set I see.

Dancefloor 5-set (all HBs):
I go with what works (based off just Friday night--I am new to club/dancefloor game): ass-shake backwards, literally pushing my way into the circle. *laughter* It blows open.
RNM: OMG! I almost wore that exact outfit out tonight!
Then it starts to falter...
I run some material on the target, and she laughs, but her friends are not pleased: I really need to involve the group more--especially on the dance floor. I eject without even trying to really dance with them. Call it warm-up one.
My analysis: same BL problem: too open at first!! I really need to learn how to open groups on dancefloors: the friends are too far away to hear with the pumping music.

I move around the dancefloor for a bit just dancing by myself looking for sets. I see a two-set:
Ass-shake in: *laughter*
"I almost wore the exact same dress as tonight. We would have looked SO stupid!"
I am in, we start to dance. After about 1 song, I go for the kiss; it fails; but I do not eject nor apologize. She is grinding on me for about 10 minutes, taking my hands and running them over her body (tit-grabbing included). I spin her around and put my finger on her chin, pulling up ever so slightly: resistance. I am a little confused...she likes the grabbing of her tits, ass, and crotch, yet, no kissing. At this point I feel warmed up and am looking for nearby sets to approach while I am dancing with her (social proof)--she is only an HB6 and it is time to upgrade. It is all cock around me, so I decide to split, with the intention of reopening later if I feel like it.

I go to the roof, knowing my friend is there. He is taking to an HB7 and her UG friend. I wing for a bit, albeit poorly. I am in good state and do not feel like wasting it on some UG. We eject knowing that he will see her later.

This is wear the shit hit the fan. On the way down the stairs a few girls are yelling, "AAMMMMMMMBBBEERR!" I yell "SHUUUUUTTTTUUUPPP!" on the way by without even looking. Next thing I know, I am hit from behind with some girl's drink, and she is SCREAMING. I start yelling back, pissed as hell. The back of my head and shirt are soaked and sticky. I leave, realizing there is no point staying and yelling. Back on the main dance floor I am fuming. Slowly, I start to dance, by myself. After Friday night I feel no social pressure and have no issue dancing crazy by myself. So I do. My state comes back halfway.

I ass-shake my way into a couple sets only to get completely blown-out. After the drink-throwing and blowouts, I am completely out of PUA state. In retrospect, I was more like backing into sets than ass-shaking; which is neither funny nor confident. Luckily, I am still completely comfortable on the dance floor, by myself.

I go back to crazy dancing, but simply cannot open. I am getting HUGE IOIs from this HB9. I do nothing. Small IOI's from a couple HB8s near me who are dancing in a 4-set. I do nothing. I am even asked to take a couple pictures by an 8-set of girls. I half-ass try to make something of it, but eject way too early after trying next to nothing. An hour of this passes and I am surrounded by hotties on the dancefloor, yet I cannot open.

I go to find my wing before my period starts...
We chill for a few and he encourages me to get back in there--the night is almost over. I decide to sack the fuck up and go open some sets.

Now I am back on the dance floor, dancing alone. I position myself near a 3-set and solo for a few minutes (I rationalize this by saying it will make them more comfortable when I approach, which it may, but this is really just the vagina in me talking). I open, intending to ass-shake, but again just sort of dance backwards into them (I realized this in retrospect). I spin one, they are laughing. I dance with another for a minute. The third one is the hottest and I am about to jump to her when the one I am dancing with stops, and returns to her friends. Fuck. I should have paid the one I was dancing with more attention--done some push-pull or something.

The club is closing soon, so I decide to go meet my wing and leave. On the way out, one of the girls who I took a picture of, HB7, smiles and waves. I reopen. We talk for a couple minutes and I run some material and get a good response. Somehow though, I do not close. All I had to do was qualify real fast and get the number (I even have a qualification routine in my stack!). Instead I say, "I am headed out, give me a hug. *hug* Bye."

Ugh.

****FINAL NOTES****
Summary: I start strong, get a drink thrown on me, puss-out for a while, then run bad game.
My analysis: I need to focus on my BL--especially when my state is low and I am on the dance floor. Also, the whole group needs more attention.
The silver lining: The only thing I can pull away from the wreckage here is my complete comfort in clubs. Before Friday night, I was incredibly uncomfortable. Even with low state, I never felt out-of-place.

This leads me to questions:
1. How do I open a dance floor group and involve the whole group? Assume it is too loud for more than one person to hear what I say at a time. I have tried dancing with a few of them for a few seconds, only to get poor results--the ones who you are not dancing with seem to like to pull the target away.
2. Is it a good idea to even try verbals on the dance floor? Only one person can hear and sometimes it takes two yellings in the ear.
3. Any general suggestions for group dynamics in-set?

Thanks.[/b]

1. I dont like opening sets of more than 3 girls in a loud bar because it's just a big handicap. What I do with 2/3 girls is when I'm talking to them I Look at the one that is furthest away from me while talking to the other HB(s). If she looks at me I spin her closer to me and tell her "I was just telling your friends blahblah", now usually i have both/all 3 of them looking at me and they can now listen to what I have to say. If they don't I put both my hands on their lower backs while talking to the one I dont have my arm around. And look at the other girls while talking a lot.

2. I dont like verbal conversation on the dance floor, its always too packed and too loud.

Wow, awesome group tactics Chillburg. I will definitely be trying that stuff, especially the kinoing the two you are not talking to--great multi-level communication there. And I probably do need to be spreading more EC. Thanks a lot man!

Man, to me you sound like you are missing the point of pick up. You just need to go out and have a good time bro! Seriously, you are being to focused on picking up and not focussing enough on having a good time and giving the girls a good time. As Neil Strauss said: The man who fails at Pick Up is the guy who goes out to make himself feel good. The man who suceeds is the guy who goes out to make everyone else feel good.

That's what I live by and since applying that rule, I have had more interest from girls than any man could need.

p.s. Dance floor game is extremely hard - even Mystery avoids it. The only way I suceeded and I actually wrote an article on dance floor game is to dance with your wing in the centre of the dancefloor and actually igniore the women. Seriously, ignore them. It will become a challenge for them to dance with you and you will notice 1 other interesting thing - the women will actually come to you as they will feel more comfortavble expecting that you are not a sleaze ball who is going to try to 'wiggle his backside into them.' Seriously, you must have that down to an art if it works, because I have never seen that work on real HBs, sure it will work on average girls occasionally, but I have tried and tested everything I can think of and it didn't work for me or any of my guys.

Good luck bro.

np bro, let me know what happened when you tried it

Good Report. So what you got a drink put on you, you've learned something...

What did you learn?

From my perspective you've learned you dont need girls throwing drinks at you, once this happen you can only do damage control. From the point you do damage control you always will have a spike... thats the hotest babe described in the case above as a HB9. This one you should have approached and had the funniest nite maybe without actually closing her.

-- Just my $0.02

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