Ok, so went out last night - the goal of the night was more to help my brother out who has a few confidence issues, but i thought id jump in on a few as well.

We started off in this pretty dingy bar to begin with as a mate of mine wanted to watch the football, fortunatley there was a pretty hot barmaid (hb8) all on her own.

Me: They left you all alone tonight then?

Hb8: *smile* yeah hopefully not for too long though

Me: *fluff fluff fluff* (shes pouring my pint and basically does a horrendous job of it)

Me: So how long of have you worked here *looking at the 3 inches of head on my beer*..........(neg)

Hb8: *giggles* clearly not that long

*i demonstrate how to pull a proper pint* (DHV)

She thanks me and more fluff talk and then i go back to my mate.

I came back later on and the bar was getting pretty busy but a friend of mine was ordering a beer off her, which she poured perfectly.

Me *pretty drunk*: Cuh its like da vinci poured it himself........

I have no idea why i said that, i dont think she even really knew who da vinci was and even if she did... why would he be pouring pints. I mental slapped myself after that and walked away.

So in the group of guys i was out with, there is this one guy who i suppose is the AMOG, hes one of those guys that was probably a jock type back in school - just lives off bravado but aside from that theres not much else to him.

Anyway, as practice ive been trying to subtley knock him down a few pegs, but - to this guys credit - he keeps out alpha-ering me, whenever he tries to diss me and i throw a come back out there, he seems to have another one lined up and whenever i go for dominating body language, like putting my hand on his shoulder he does the exact same and some how manages to, out body language me as well..... it's getting annoying, he always lowering my value among the group, so any advice with that would be great.

So next bar and im waiting to get a drink (in pretty drunk now) and this hb7 barges her way infront of my to the bar.

Me: Wow, you're a feisty one arnt you.

Hb7: hah yeah, sorry about that.

Me: Hey no, you wanted it more than i did, fair play to you

Hb7: *laughs*... more fluff chat, i was on fire during this convo i had both her and her mate eating out my hand, she asked my name and bought me a drink, i then bought her one as well... talked a little more then i left.

Opened a few more sets, but to be honest i was a bit too drunk at this point to really appreciate what i was saying and how i should react, i was just flying on auto-pilot.... stupid. I even went out with the intention of not drinking, that kinda went down the drain. So i gave up after that and just helped my brother out, gave him a few challenges like just going up to girls and saying they're cute, then ejecting. Which he did, and it worked pretty well - some girls just smiled and gigglesd, others tried to takl to him while he was walking away and of course there was the few who just looked at him weird, but meh.

So yeah, not too bad of a night - the lesson learnt here was to not drink so damn much. I also need to change my approach when dealing with this AMOG so let me know your thoughts.

Need a little more info on the amog.How's his reception with the other guys in the group? Is he fully respected?Does he even get girls?Does he even see you as a friend? I would say befriend the amog and getting on his good side as it works very much in your favour.However you've already signalled to him that you see him as a threat, so befriending now seems somewhat out of the equation and a DLV.

Right now you should try doing something more,than just amog destroyers,because you seem 'stuck' with this guy as he's in your clique.What you need is respect.If you can't get it from him,you get it from your group.Maybe bringing one of the weaker members of your group*,going around the club and opening, interacting closing with girls,showing your value and worth,because at the end of the day that's what you want-To show 'gay-mog' he isn't that cool.Or you could try treating each of his comments as unimportant and senseless,but that's obviously much harder than it sounds.And when you get into arguments you just make yourself look small and when you lose..you get the idea.So stop trying to out-smart him even you think he's better at it, plus it's childish.

Good Luck

Cupe.

*A weaker member isn't necessary,but if you sarge well with him,you'll gain a lot of respect from him.When you and him tell the group,it's quite likely they'll respect you a whole lot more for A)Your good game B)Your will to share it

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Hey, thanks for the reply.

This guy is a friend of a friend. People generally know what hes like, he acts this way with a lot of guys but on the whole he is respected. He knows i can get girls relatively easily as well, so i think he does respect me to a certain extent.

To be honest i think im building this up in my head, i pride myself on not caring too much what people think of me, however this guy has just gotten under my skin a little bit - almost like i want validation off of him, silly i know. It doesnt matter really, im off to college in a couple of weeks and if i choose to, i dont ever have to see him again really.

ill put it down to a moment of weakness and just man up a bit. Ill keep in mind what you said though the next time hes out. thanks again.