Hey Guys- Haven't posted on here in what feels like at least a year, pick ups been going great lately have my numbers to up past 50.

I've been having no trouble reading situations but this one was semi confusing but im sure written out its a lot simpler.

All help is appreciated!


A girl I use to date from when I was 15 got back in contact with me recently, we went out for about a year, I'm 20 now.

Either way we went on a "date" to catch up on old shit, we were going to go to coffee but I did some strategic texting and we ended up going out for drinks @ applebees @ 9:30 on a Tuesday.

We met up I showed up about 5 minutes later than I was suppose to she, was running late from work, pry just trying to display higher value by showing up later but whatevs. Either way we met up caught up with random stuff a little bit.

I was negging her the whole time, she's 21 and I don't turn 21 for 2 weeks so I shared her drinks and we continued drinking for a while. I continued negging her and you could tell she enjoyed the convo and me. Either way it went on for over an hour we both got kind of tipsy and then I said we need to continue. Since I was from out of town I said we had to go to her place because I was staying with friends.

I said I would pay for the bill because I drank majority of the alcohol tab was 35.00 I told her I'd pay but she has to buy the alcohol that we drink later tonight. So we left there and met at Safeway, bought a couple packs of bitch beer and then headed to her house.

I continued the negging at her house, we drank all the alcohol got pretty drunk. We went on a walk around her neighborhood, I peed on her X BF's car she laughed. Then we got offered candy by some crackheads then made it back to her house. We both had a good time, she was showing mild signs of interest the whole time nothing to big.

At her house we got in a big "fight" with what alcohol was left and made a huge mess of her house and ourselves. I through her in the shower... no big signs of interest or I would of attempted something. We both layed on her bed, she layed the other way, sign of dis interest. She went to the bathroom and said she wanted me to lay with her on the futon on the living room... sign of interest i thought. We talked about sex and shit for a while we were both really drunk and she was saying how she's became classier ( lately seems like all girls are really easy regaurdless of what they say). We passed out I woke up and left before she was up got a lot of texts on how great of a time she had and what not and how we need to do it again asap.

So I'm debating why there weren't more signs of interest kind of... im pretty good looking I think... about 1-2 levels above her and I think she knows that. We use to go out and have sex so the new part shouldn't have been an issue. Could it have something to do with the fact that she may have pre conceived impressions of me? She also just broke up with a 5 year bf/ engagement. She also has a really hot sister about 2 levels above her that she kept trying to hook me up with sort of?

Any suggestions???

I think when you mentioned that she thinks of herself as more of a 'classier woman' then that might be it. If she does know that your 2 levels higher than her in outer looks then she this back it up, she might just be thinking to herself that you only want her for sex and not a relationship.

Anyway this could be horrendously wrong but better than saying nothing

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"She also just broke up with a 5 year bf/ engagement."
she probably fucked that dude for nearly 5 years in that bed. she is literally in full trauma mode, heading to the couch was either a sign of interest, or just a move to separate herself from those old memories. she's fraaaaaagile right now man, fragile as hell. gonna be tough to avoid the flake, but she'll prob want to fuck someone to get over him/get back at him. chicks are like guys: they get over someone by going and laying beneath another.
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Thanks for the advice..... hmmm i've been in similar situations with other girls and even virgins and it doesn't seem to stop anything as far as "classy" goes...... as far as the bf/ fragile... i think that would be more incentive for her almost

still think theres something else though any other advice is welcome

First of all, she and all other women talk about not being a hoe, or being more classy because they need to convince themselves that they are not hoes--or they need for you to think that they are not a hoe. It's all mask talk, but I'm sure,as you know, what women say and what women do are two totally different things.

From the way I read this story I don't see why you didn't bang this chick. The fact that you've tapped it before should have made it even easier. Seems like it was offered to you on a platter. Am I missing something? All you needed to do was put it in sexual mode and I'm sure she would have responded. What stopped you?

agree whole heartedly with benedictsmith's comment. that's the reason for sure dude

Obviously agree 100% I just didn't see the physical signs I usually see, maybe I wasn't pushing to get those signs with routines as much as I should have. Do you think more touch/feel routines could have led up?

I think girls go about giving physical signs differently to exes than they do to a new dude they just met - as in being less obvious. A while ago I ran into an ex I hadn't seen for over a year, at a party. We barely spoke the whole party, other than "hi" and I really got zero iois. Fortunately we ended up sleeping on a big couch together - thanks to the fact there was only one blanket despite an extra mattress. I just thought "fuck it!" and started kissing the back of her neck, to which she responded well, and we ended up having sex. I really felt like I was taking a long shot, but turned out I was good all the way. Just the fact that she wants to kick it with you again at this point is a pretty big sign...
I don't know about her having traumas...she was engaged to a guy, and now enjoys seeing his car peed on? haha! Did he cheat? Maybe some baggage there...but I bet you are in.
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